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going to a gun show to buy my first shotgun tommorow. Pretty dead set on the Mossberg 500 (or 590 if I can find one) mainly because parts are cheap and it's not Remington. How much should I expect to pay for a used one? At the end of the day what I want is a wood stock and both an 18 inch and a 28 inch barrel. Would it be cheaper to buy the combo or just buy a boring polymer stock one and buy all the parts later? I've checked pawn shops in my area and they are all jews who mark them up to 350-400 (even used ones) so there's no way in hell I'm paying that. I'm bringing 350 dollars in cash to the gun show. Not paying more than 300 for the shotgun, and that's for one that is in great condition with great furniture on it, leaving myself 50 for ammo and accessories. if that fails I'll just buy this because it's exactly what I want. https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/mossberg-500-combo-pump-action-12-gauge-28-185-barrel-51-rounds?a=1800469but if I could find a cheap M500 with a bit of wear on it that would be great. pic only kind of related.
>Bird head grips or just pistol grips with no stockIs this just rule of cool? Why would you want to be miserable shooting your gun?
>>36221646Bird's heads have absolutely nothing in common economically with PGO.Literally everything about them is better, and with the proper technique the recoil is completely fine.
>tfw ordered a Hatfield SLG 12 gauge for $112 from Fleet FarmTell me I'm retarded. I wanted a bottom dollar single shot for boomsticking so badly...
>>36221515You're supposed to use 00 by lawWell, actually, I cant remember which shot you're supposed to use, but I know there's a rule
>>36221448And your shotgun is?
Letsego is getting sick of making new threads edition Old >>36219313
>>36224753Arfcom officialhttps://store.ar15.com/product.html?pr=318
>>36224597sell that pst and buy mine for $275 rn
>>36224766How much for the parrot
>>36224730I eat lot of protein bars.
>>36224800$1200
Does anyone else hate the 223 meme as much as I do?Even if the "ice pick" is fudd lore, every stigma and rumor has truth somewhere in its origins.Not to mention its shitty ballistics, even in non combat senarios when wielded by the autistic shitlords that use them.>aurora shooting, 70 wounded from nearly point blank range, 12 killed. Mostly children and old people>vegas shooting, 400+ wounded from blind spraying , 58 killed, most likely half from trampling. Do I even need to talk about the church "massacre" at this point?From the data in these instances, thats almost less than a 15% lethality.Other shit-tacular aspects of this rifle:>velocity dependant ammunition>little to no barrier penetration>so small it drifts in the slightest cross breeze>deflects off twigsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>mfw 223/5.56 work just fine
>>36223200>warned against hunting withIt's one of the best small game/varmint calibers wtf
>>36223200its good for shootin small game, but to be honest i want to hock my ar in favor of something actually practical.
>>36224022The 53gr HPFB SMK was introduced in 1949, the 52gr HPBT SMK was introduced in 1970, and the 77gr SMK was introduced in 1984. At least one commercial manufacturer has produced a >/=70gr VLD in the US since 1966.>the .222 Remington was introduced in 1950 and has been used as a precision/Benchrest round since then, the .220 Swift indroduced in 1935 was used as an accuracy/Benchrest round since pre-WW2.
Should we just have an intermediate ammo general. You obsessed fucks aren't fooling anyone with your 'Can we talk about how shitty 5.56 is?' bait threads?
My choices are between the>Colt M.A.R.C. 901>Ruger SR-762>FN SCAR 17 (before anything is said about price, I might be able to get one for $3,100)>LaRue Tactical PredatAR>Daniel Defense DD5V1I'm looking for something that could qualify as a "battle rifle"I'd like a procon list or greentexts of the gun along a description of what's good/bad about it if possible.
>>36219619Are the SCARs the SWAT teams get domestically produced or are they from Belgium?
I'm going to get an ar-10, probably the $700 DPMS because they're all the same.I might also make an ar-10 pistol just to piss people off at the range and to see if I can use a compensator to set their shit on fire... fucking cunts are always mag dumping their at-15's at 5 yards at the indoor range. It's like motherfucker I'm trying to relax with my 9mm over here getting better than you with your fucking 5 yard rifle. Yeah I need to do this.
Get an fal retard
>>36224759This.
>>36224585look at my flip up sights that won't even fucking work because my scope is positioned DIRECTLY above my rear flip up
Air rifles. Plinking, competition, pest control, hunting. Pick your poison.Have a question about air rifles?Shoot.
>>36223841Now that's a pretty stock. Not a fan of sidelevers tough it rustles my symmetry jimmies.Here's my HW77
>>36224043If you get a chance, do some side lever shooting. You will never go back to under lever or break barrel.Ultra pretty rifle!
>>36213141The netherlands also has no limit on airguns.
>>36224064I shot a Diana 52 before buying the HW. The Diana didn't have the recoil pin hole on top for the scope rings and that's always a problem with a FAC springer. Also I didn't like the trigger too much and since everywhere I looked it up people were praising the Rekord trigger I went with the HW. I might be a trigger snob because this is my second air rifle.
>>36220888I should clarify I use the .177 pellets, not sure if the .22's are more durable or not, I didn't notice that pic was of .22 destroyers. In fact I that's the first time I've seen them.
Greetings from the snowy slopes of the Swiss Alps.Meetup no. 3 took place over the weekend and provided us with tons of slavy goodness, beepbeep and black boogers.> inb4 all romands must hang[spoiler]but they do[/spoiler]
>>36223781you could just find someone else who owns a ball, salty noguns. reddit perhaps.
>>36223781*Gasps in offense* I'll take my ball home then!
>>36223530>Also shooting so hard you still sneeze out powder residue two days later is fucken greatIt is not that great when you have lead poisoning
>>36224620>lead >from the fumes Bruh
>>36224395Reddit is mostly American as well tho
I think we can all agree that the T-34 was the best tank of WW2.
>>36214877The main danger to allied tanks in the late war were AT guns, handheld AT weapons, and German tanks. HE is only effective for troop support, but AP is much more critical against enemy tanks.
>>36213042>T-34 was as reliable as Sherman>In 1941 T-34 tanks often had to carry a spare transmission strapped on the back to counter equipment failures (10). In 1942 the situation worsened since many vehicles could only cover small distances before breaking down. In the summer of 1942 the following Stalin order was issued to units (11):>‘Our armored forces and their units frequently suffer greater losses through mechanical breakdowns than they do in battle. For example, at Stalingrad Front in six days twelve of our tank brigades lost 326 out of their 400 tanks. Of those about 260 owed to mechanical problems. Many of the tanks were abandoned on the battlefield. Similar instances can be observed on other fronts. Since such a high incidence of mechanical defects is implausible, the Supreme Headquarters sees in it covert sabotage and wrecking by certain elements in the tank crews who try to exploit small mechanical troubles to avoid battle.’>Henceforth, every tank leaving the battlefield for alleged mechanical reasons was to be gone over by technicians, and if sabotage was suspected, the crews were to be put into tank punishment companies or "degraded to the infantry" and put into infantry punishment companies.'
>>36214877>thinking that HE filler is all that matters>ignoring AP performance>ignoring rate of fire>ignoring accuracynicely done
>>36224312>Active protection system.I thought APS couldn't kill kinetic rounds
>>36224721In the late of the war (since 1944, when T-34/85 appeared) on the Eastern front, especially in urban areas, about about 70% of tanks destroyed were hit by Panzerfäuste or Panzerschrecks. German tanks at this time was pretty rare thing to find - all of them were concentrated in the most important areas. In other places the main target of allied tank was soft targets like fortified houses with infantry, bunkers, AT canon positions, all this is almost immune to AP. We are not talking about tank duels, we are talking about tank being useful in battle.
Today's my birthday and I need cheering up like only /k/ can do.
>>36213958POST MORE RARE IANSIANS FOR THE IAN GOD
go back to redd.it faggotalso fuck your birthday nigger you killed an on-topic thread for this autistic faggotrysnuff yourself out like you would the candles on the cake that someone would have gotten for you if anyone in the world gave the slightest fuck about your worthless assfuck off
>>36224324Never change guys
>>36224314I need some more.Had a good birthday till feral nigs started roaming the streets asking for money. Felt like I shouldn't get into a self defense scenario on my birthday.Kek
>>36214068>2,350 dollars for a cheap rip offGod damn
AK General /akg/Innasnow Operating Edition>Thread #525Old thread here >>36203243
>AK Buyer's Guide http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva
All this snow shit doesn't make any sense to me......why go out in the snow to begin with.....
Tell me about you guns how you get your guns.
Belgium: Acquiring guns not covered under Model 9As a sport shooter, you may want to acquire guns not covered under Model 9. This generally means you need to request a Model 4 permit for that gun. Each Model 4 permit is linked to a single gun. But one "request" can include many Model 4 permits at the same price of about 100 euros.Having an SSL means that you can cut down on some of the paperwork required to acquire it, as the SSL in itself already shows that you are physically and mentally fit to handle firearms, and that you're not a criminal. Regardless, your request is sent to your governor, and it will take him between 2 weeks and 4 months to approve your request. Some antigun governors & administrations make it a sport to wait as long as possible before issuing the permit.Model 4 covers:- centerfire pistols & revolvers- centerfire semi automatic rifles & shotguns- pump action shotguns
Belgium: Quirks & limitationsMagazine capacity:Centerfire bolt action rifles & shotguns must have a capacity of 10 rounds or less.Rimfire bolt action rifles must have a capacity of 15 rounds or less.Centerfire semi automatic rifles must have a capacity of 30 rounds or less.Rimfire semi automatic rifles must have a capacity of 40 rounds or less.Centerfire pistols must have a capacity of 20 rounds or less, unless you are an IPSC/BPSA shooter then it must be shorter than 171mm regardless of capacity.If you own a .22LR pistol under Model 9 permit, you may own a 10 shot magazine for it, but you are not legally allowed to load more than 5 rounds at a time. Own the same pistol under Model 4, and you may load it to full capacity.Outright banned:SuppressorsVisible aiming lasersNight vision devices attached to a weaponComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>36224179You also forgot about nails in the barrels of most milsurps and how molot purposedly fucks the chambers on all of their rifles, making them ruin the cases upon firing. Reloading of rifle ammo is not allowed, milsurp ammo is a nope too. Limit of 5 shotguns and 5 rifles without a collectors license. Fucked up imports because of sanctions.
>>36219007>economic sanctions>on swiss And loosing acces to the lair of mountain jews full of gold ? No way they are that stupid.
>went to gun store>wrote a check>gave them a copy of my electric bill and a picture of my face>waited for a month>went to pick it upt. guatemalanon
Valmet M82
>>36224536Is that a FAMAS?
>>36224612>Is that a FAMAS?No its a Wesson Carbine
MG 42
>>36224536That's a PSG-1!!! You can use it to fight Sniper Wolf!!!
Lemme see your EDCNo edition, just wanna get a thread going edition
>>36223858> that fat hand
>>36223528I occasionally carry an FNX45T w/ RMR and WML IWB.
>>36223858
>>36221726See >>36216714I've put a ton of rounds through the 1907 and it hasn't failed me yet, so long as I use FMJ ball ammunition. Those old german guns don't like HP.
>>36223858>excuse the ghostly white handShut up you cuck, the whiter the better. Stop playing into nigger culture.
Serious question what does this do that an AR doesn't?
>>36222629jesus christ the flex on that stock
>>36223741The best grils flex, senpai. Best raifus have SCARs. Once they find they cannot pass their fear of death, they will hold on desperately for anyone who will make them feel less worthless. Drink it down, drink the power. succ
>>36222867Post’em, i need s laff.
>>36223017>APC223My APC223 came with a pmag.
>>36217371have used one as an automatic rifleman for multiple occasions, can confirm they work terribly with pmags
