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Is there a cohesive anti-academia movement in existence? Is anyone else angry that public finding goes toward financing Ph.D students writing nonsensical critiques of popular culture that no-one will ever read?Is anyone else angry that the university system is currently a neoliberal profit machine, but has humanities departments which are predominantly occupied with and preach Marxism without tolerating dissenting opinions?Is anyone else angry that academics from upper-middle-class backgrounds sit around deluding themselves into believing they are doing important social work while most of their salary comes from people with real jobs?
>>10423282marxism (historical materialism) is very marginalized in academia, though concern with neoliberalism is changing that somewhat. unless you mean “cultural marxism” to include any left leaning identity politics you happen to disagree with.
>>10423322i’ve been saying for years that jewish conspiracy theories are so close to the truth and yet insurmountably far away. but this characterizes fascism as such: the last ditch, cultural attempt by finance capital to retain control
>>10424530>>10425832Nice to see some permaculture interest on /lit/. Check out Geoff Lawton's stuff on youtube. Sepp Holzer's farm in Austria. Gaia's Garden.
>>10424001>Marcuse is spinning in his grave if he didn't intend this all alongdude literally wrote students are the new revolutionary class. if any one intellectual could be blamed for the new left it’d be him
>>10423282>on /lit/>someone posts my uni's libraryI'm being followed.
You analyze yourself constantly, dissecting every subtlety of your being making your actions seem insincere. You read yourself like a book, sometimes unconsciously setting up experiments to see how you will "react" to othe'r states of being. Of course you do this from a detached position like everything you do. You don't hold positions on anything, the perfect "philosopher", because you can see the intricacies and flaws in every argument that seems to assert something unabatedly except that you're also paradoxically radical in the positions you do take because you can't stand uncertainty. You're simply an individual and an indivdualist when it comes to anything that other people deem important. You think the world exists primarily to be understood. You have a wry almost Machiavellian smile when you think of something clever in your head. You're the guy who's quitely suppressing his laughter when he thinks of something funny in his head. You're brillant, but not a genius; genius takes enormous amounts of intellecual productivity to the point of forming entire cultural paradigms. Let's just say you're not there yet. Indeed, you do got some wit, but you use it to shitpost on 4chan instead. Everything seems "clear" to you kinda like that guy from Limitless. There is a certain lucidity to your mind that you're sometimes not comfortable with, it can sometimes even make you psychotic. But you won't take your meds because you want to remain "pure". You want the real unadulterated intellectual side. You read people just as well as yourself: facial expressions, psychological motivations, specific tics that apply to a certain category of individuals, ego problems or identity issues you can intuitively sense even on the internet. Yeah yeah, that does mean you have a decent grasp of the human condition or the human "spirit," what ever the fuck you want to call it. But you still have that splinter in your mind: you don't know anything and you're trying to come to grips with the fact that you will not know the reasons to everything. You're just an eccentric, sometimes absent-minded rationalist. Now get the fuck off my board.
>>10425928never become shkreli
It takes one to know one.
>>10426202Obviously not, the great stream of conciousness has many faces, declaring yourself as yourself means you are everything. We are part as well.
>>10425928>INTP The Post
>>10426071I agree
>reads evola>uses the internetWtf is wrong with you?
>>10426183Evola is useful in that he demonstrates how to link up streams of ancient philosophy with contemporary existence.
>>10426183>this post>calls others pseuds
>>10425772Excellent propaganda, Anon!>>10426164Ignoring whether you agree with Fascism or not, you have to agree that that was good advertising copy; poetry, really.
>>10426164>Why do you think right-wing intellectuals like Junger and Evola rejected fascism?Stop, you're embarrassing yourself. >MUH CLASSICAL FASCISM IS DIFFERENT FROM GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALISMYou obviously haven't read or understood Junger or Evola.
>he isn't intent on becoming an aristocratic internet wizard archon to direct the Cathedral of the Tiger from the shadows
What does /lit/ think about the Oxford very short introductions series?
>>10425788What are some good ones that you could recommend?
Some are great, some are terrible, most are average.
I really liked the intro to Socrates, but everyone else hates it!I include a typical review.
>>10425769How is the short introduction to Hegel by Singer? Especially if you don't like Singer?
>>10426247Very bad. He repeats misconceptions like ‘thesis antithesis synthesis’.
What's your MBTI and favorite philosopher>INFJ>Lacan
>>10424639>INFJ>NietzscheI find him therapeutic because I'm a little sissy bitch.
>>10426174>Loses 15 IQ points
I have always absolutely hated this personality identification bullshit It's the most pathetic narcissistic ego trip shit that exists and the fact that it keeps showing up on this fucking retarded anonymous site is just mind blowing because you're not even ego tripping with people you actually know in your fucking life so it's even more pointless than what you might initially think it isIf you've ever posted authentically and genuinely in one of these stupid threads you belong in r9k or preferably six feet under
>>10426272t.ISTJ
>intj>Heraclitus
What book title is referenced by this clue/riddle?This word you shall find in two parts, one in an arena outside, Where the sound of hoofs beat the ground, as throngs watch little men ride. Not full throttle nor slow, they go at steady speed.The second part is what's done when breath stops, and when the body has no more blood to bleed.
>>10426228Repeat the hint for me, I completed that one.
>>10426255Can't remember exactly but the first part is about "something in every story since creation, you never see it until the end"? Something like that. The second part I think mentioned apples and ignoring what comes from within.If that's not enough I'll get the whole clue when I go home
>>10426267Ah yes, I remember. It mentioned apples that are good inside, but have bad peel.That's like judging a book by its cover, which is prejudice. I tried "Pride and Prejudice" and it was correct.
>>10426273Thanks, friend
>>10426276Np, if you ever solve #4 (I pasted the hint above), please come back here.
Where does one start with Shakespeare? What route should be taken through his body of work?
just start anywhere and read him in any order
>>10424581Watching a play before reading it can make it much easier to follow. There are many versions of his plays on youtube, so just pick one and have at it. I recommend Julius Caesar for ease as it's short and pretty straight forward.
Unless you're fluent in 16th century English, Folger's editions are a good place to start. A lot of the other stuff dumbs it down too much for its true meaning to be grasped. Don't know if you should go through his works in any particular order, but I started with Henry V, which isn't too dense, and it's very nostalgic to me.>>10425995Watch it, read it, re-read it, then watch it again.
I read him chronologically, it was alright. A bit of a slog early on, OTOH it's cool to see his progression, how he gets stuck in the problem plays for a while, then the great tragedies, etc
>>10424581Start with the Henry IV plays. It's a history, but it has components of comedy and tragedy, and it has a good mix of Shakespeare's prose and verse. And it has one of Shakespeare's most likable characters, Falstaff.
New stack no plebs allowed. No top 100 babies first /lit books please.
>>10422500>implying you have ever read any books auerbach discussesIt's not like everyone here already started with the Greek and finished Odyssey.>>10422420I share more or less the same idea after finished Diplomacy.>>10424775This must be involving some kind of Calvino meme that you decided to single me out in this thread.
>>10424525everything you can as for desu
No pics yetBlood Red Snow-- Guenter Korschorekk Becoming Orthodox-- Fr. Peter Gillquist
>>10424556I can focus better on a monogunctioning object than on a multifunctioning one. I’m also scared it gets stolen.
This is what I got myself for xmas.What's the deal with the shitty paper dustcover on the plato? It's one of the most expensive books I own and they can't put a decent dust cover on it?
Whats the best cornel west book?I like how marxism seems to always be there behind his ideas, which is a correct way to go about things.
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>>10426194it flushes down the toilet all the crappy mediocre LotR derived fantasy that's been produced over the past 40 years and produces something wonderous
>>10419361>R.A. Salvatorelicensed media pleb>>10419352I don't know if you can have Hard SF and HorrorHard SF sort of prohibits monsters. As soon as the monster ate someone the alien biochemistry would kill it.And Mountains of Madness is not Hard SFBut something that's pretty Hard SF that was kinda horrific, but not because of monsters, I would recommend Kim Stanley Robinsons novel Aurora.Its horror comes from its bleakness.
>>10426214I read Ender's Game but not the following books so I don't know how Peter or Ender's sister turned out, but the idea here is that the kids would only ever have a limited exposure to the outside world and humanity at large. Like growing up in a boot camp where you could watch reality TV a few nights a week and then when you turn 18, you get recruited by the CIA, Wall Street or the White House. I'm just trying to think up what sort of education these kids would need.
>>10425117You got it mixed up. It's badly written sex scenes as a poor excuse for filler, for a great story. I could have done with less sex. The story and world were great though.
>>10426170>sword of ages>age of swords
Ok /lit/ we've had enough time to read the book. What are everyone's thoughts?!
>>10426225A girl published something. This is very upsetting to 4channers
>>10426233She just ignored any criticism that was thrown her way during the AMA even when it was upvoted a fuckload. Maybe she just hid her sadness, but I think she just disregarded it and took the positivity away from the experience.
>>10426192Because she made it seem like she was published, when she really just self-published. I.e. she’s a writer, not an author, but she called herself an author.
>>10426251>self publishes because no publisher would ever touch that shit>wants the glory anywaysFucking cuck
>>10426225>claims to have gotten first book published at 19>reddit naturally jumps on this, hoping to find some advice for their own work>posts sample, it's utter shit>after several questions she reveals she self-published on kindle and did vanity publishing for physical copies after being rejected by nearly every publishing company>after more questions she reveals that her parents gave her $5k to vanity publishNot bad by itself, but as others here said she came across as lacking self-awareness and was dismissive of most questions she got. One that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way was something along the lines of 'why didn't you say you used your own money to publish?' 'I didn't use my own money - I used my PARENTS money.'
How did Nietzsche inspire the Nazis when he very explicitly expresses a hatred for Wagnerian music (preferring Bizet), Germans and the anti-Semites of his time, and Zarathustra's official animals are both eagle (pride) AND serpent (cunning), among saying many other things that simply didn't fit at all with their ideology?
>>10425299>talking shit about Arno Breker>regarded as one of the greatest sculptors of the timeLook, I hate /pol/ as much as the next guy, but calm down champ
>>10425299Your ignorance is astounding.
>>10426086Source? Because it was a long time ago Montinari and Colli when published the complete works edition and solved this controversy.
>>10426086I had thought that it was just some additions to Will to Power, which she arranged herself, nothing else. Which would mean that the Nazis didn't actually read Nietzsche, they probably just read the small selection that she provided the movement.
>>10425243Because Nietzsche is his writings is a provocateur above all else and who encourages creative misreadings. You don't have to agree that Carmen is better than Parsifal or even to believe that Nietzsche meant this sincerely (which I doubt) to appreciate and be changed by Nietzsche.Nietzsche is clearly pushing for a kind of German neo-pagan revival, while challenging Catholicism to try impossibly to retain its power it had in the middle ages, while complementing Jewish culture for basically being a respectable enemy to his Roman values. Christianity is less respectable but still semitic so many times where he's critiquing Christianity he's calling it Jewish/Semitic, which is the way it would be perceived by a pagan Roman but is very easy to misread these sections as anti-semitic when they're clearly intended at denigrating Christianity.I can understand perceiving a false anti-semitism in Nietzsche but I can't see much that is Nationalistic or pro-German. If the Nazis had tried genuinely to integrate non-Germans into the Third Reich Euro-polis then maybe, just maybe could they be decent readers of Nietzsche.You might find better, more nuanced readers of Nietzsche among the 'Conservative Revolution' circles of Weimar Germany.
Write what’s on your mind
OP was a faggot. Hold on a second, you're about to leave, but don't. Listen, he was a special kind of faggot. He's likely a pasty white dude. Twenty years old, hasn't lifted, maybe an errant piercing and a tattoo. Just imagine you're rolling down the street in the passenger's side, and you see a guy on the street. OP is that guy. He's the fucking dude on the corner with the snapback. This is now OP's life story.All the people you share this website with are humans. There are women here. If you saw them on a webcam (in groups, as some 4chan users are inclined to do), you would see his true nature. Not necessarily a faggot. He's a real guy, with facial features and beard hair. He's got a username up in the corner. He's making this post. He has dreams and ambitions, he hits those keys and makes those dumb posts that /lit/ is infected with. He sits in a chair, he does it for free. Not a janitor, just a man who wants to connect. So he makes a thread. Show me your book shelf. Is this fantasy author good? What do you think about this -ism? Here is my work, critique it /lit/.He sits there, and he posts. But in the end, as you see him on the street from your window riding bitch or in the back, you see him right there. He is walking down the street. He is the one behind those words, those posts on that website you visit. You haven't really learned anything about him. He is OP, and he is a faggot.
>27 years. >no education.>never got a job.>failed more or less at everything I've tried and taken an interest atWishing for a death as a Christmas present, please grant it to me.
>>10425967you don't want death, you want a change of circumstances, which death stands as an instance ofi don't know what to tell you because i'm in the same boat but I'm going to keep on going for a while longer and i hope you do too
>>10425976That's obvious, but it's not happening clearly.
>>10425967You can always join the military unless you're in a soft country
England's best prose stylist?
>stylistBurgess
>>10424348missed Browne
but isnt that a girls name
>>10425097Browne was taken in a post above.
>>10425097William Cobbet, Sidney Smith....
