[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vr / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip / qa] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / asp / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / wsg / wsr / x] [Settings] [Home]
Board
Settings Home
/lit/ - Literature


Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Subject
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
06/20/16New 4chan Banner Contest with a chance to win a 4chan Pass! See the contest page for details.
[Hide] [Show All]


Meta on /qa/ only.
All meta discussion of boards is to be redirected to /qa/.

[Catalog] [Archive]

File: shakespeare.jpg (421 KB, 1200x1537)
421 KB
421 KB JPG
Was he the greatest writer in the English language?

What's his best work?
27 replies and 1 image omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>10378677
Why thank you. Likewise.
>>
>>10378688
Good day. Idiot.
>>
>>10378694
Same to you. Assclown.
>>
>>10378677
>>10378688
>>10378694
>>10378701
Shakes would be proud see this.
>>
>>10378701
You know what, let me indulge this. Before Joyce, no writer had ever gone to the lengths he did to document the ways in which we think. Joyce painstakingly mapped out our reflections from his own conscious experience and filtered it through the lens of a story rife and overflowing with allusions, figurative language, and experimentation. He was a master of prosody and puns and learned in the entire evolution of the English language. He was a scholar of history, both in the world and of his native Ireland, and he was an encylopaedia book brimming with knowledge of languages, of literature, of philosophy, somehow managing to formulate this into one of the greatest novels of modernist fiction.

File: lit-lon-1500x900.jpg (293 KB, 1400x840)
293 KB
293 KB JPG
Okay who's up for this?
Where and when?
4 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
London, Ontario?
>>
>>10376875
Catford's a bit out of the way for anyone who isn't in the South, other than that I have no problem with it.
>>
>>10376863
Time to fumigate the semites out of your capital, bongs.
>>
>>10376911
thanks for the bump
>>
Elephant and Castle is the most /lit/ place in London

t. resident of Elephant and Castle

File: image.jpg (96 KB, 323x499)
96 KB
96 KB JPG
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=meP-GLKPekk

When I use the term "conservative" below, I mean the term as applicable until Buckley, Thatcher, Reagan and the neocons redefined it. "Conservativism" today supports individualism (hence their sympathy for Ayn Rand) and belief in an ideal economic-political system that could be applied to the whole world, making it ontologically distinct from conservativism which was partially and importantly defined by rejection of these things.

Conservativism starts as a modernist (those who think Joseph de Maistre is a medievalist, don't know what they're talking about) reaction to the French Revolution. However I will note that it comes from two very distinct angles: one angle is Anglo-American conservativism, exemplified by Edmund Burke, John Adams and Russell Kirk. Here conservativism is a Whig (for what that was in the 18th Century, which was much more heterogenous than in the 19th) school of thought which embraced both the Glorious Revolution and the American Revolution. Hence its critique of the French Revolution is in contrast to those. From an Anglo conservative perspective, these revolutions were required to protect the law. The French Revolution, by contrast, was not about upholding the law, it was about subverting it by anarchy, extrajudicial murder and mob lynchings. Consequently Anglo conservativism places enormous value on rule of law, of following the law as (for lack of a better term) dogmatically as possible. Judges ought to interpret the law by intent, the executive cannot go beyond her constitutional authority, etc. Law is only to be changed by the means the law prescribes for her change.

In contrast, Continental conservativism critiqued the French Revolution more on the basis of defending the deposed government. So instead of defending written law, Continental conservativism is more concerned with unwritten law and justifying regime. Whereas the American conservative might say Lincoln's suspension of habaes corpus is valid because the Constituion permits it in time of rebellion, de Maistre is overtly concerned with when the state can suspend it *without* explicit provision in written law. For de Maistre and Carl Schmitt, the central legal question is not what the law permits, but when the state can and ought to act outside written law.

This leads to some startling differences. Solzhenitsyn, for instance, said America is too "legalistic", which might shock an American conservative, seeing as Solzhenitsyn's writings (to us) suggest the USSR's major problem is the state being completely beyond the law. Solzhenitsyn would say no, the problem is that the state cared about ideology rather than God.

The last conservative (in the older sense) POTUS was Richard Nixon. An Anglo school conservative is likely to strongly approve of much of his policy as a president, while seeing his criminal behavior as dangerous and subversive, whereas a Continental school conservative is more likely to sympathize with G. Gordon Liddy's defense of it.
22 replies and 1 image omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>10377254
Indeed.
>>
>>10377254

You can't educate an average man or any but the most brilliant of women.
>>
>>10376667
>Burkean conservatism
>aka dude "we'll do what liberals want but only a little bit at a time" lmao
also stop making these shitty threads R Cam your faggy twitter account is enough.
>>
>>10376667

Holy shit, somebody on lit posted a reasonable, intelligent political position and didn't yell "cu ck" at people who disagree.
>>
but, and i must ask: what does this have to do with the jews?

File: foot cup.jpg (14 KB, 400x331)
14 KB
14 KB JPG
/lit/, what is an intellectual?
4 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>10377587
cool me to desu
>>
File: 1511640203486.png (977 KB, 890x591)
977 KB
977 KB PNG
Whats up, what do you want to know?
>>
not really
>>
>>10377586
anyone who has a different opinion on something that is generally considered true and can justfly it
>>
>>10377587
this

File: htrae.jpg (83 KB, 490x358)
83 KB
83 KB JPG
Meanwhile on bizarro /lit/...
43 replies and 11 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
Start with the New York Times top 10 of the current year. You wouldn't want to read outdated stuff, right! ;-)
>>
Haven't you even ever solved the spoken have ever the have to speak the, and not isn't left to the have to speak about and understand universal?
>>
File: 00102367-400x400[1].jpg (45 KB, 400x400)
45 KB
45 KB JPG
Just finished this bad boy, and I gotta say holy shit! Any recommendations for more books like this?
>>
>>10378166
that's the normal /lit/, senpai
>>
You know, I think the best books are the ones that they assign children to read in high school. They're just so simple and full of great life lessons that anyone can understand. Other books might try to be pertinent to everyday life, but they just don't have the same influence on personal development that these books have.

File: 41hMIOlMU_L.jpg (20 KB, 325x500)
20 KB
20 KB JPG
Just finished this. Still need some time to reflect. Very interesting novel about lying and memory.

Anyone read Jesse Ball?
>>
Looks interesting. What's it about

File: satire is not racism.jpg (265 KB, 1243x892)
265 KB
265 KB JPG
1 reply omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>10378174
cook books
>>
>>10377777
just looking for this get
>>
>>10378174
if timeliness in nietzsche's sense existed on a spectrum of Timeless vs. Untimeliness, with either pole approaching but never reaching a theoretical limit, women can only understand books that are >99.999% timely

so, cook books, or people clearly enunciating the phrase "The status quo is good. We should obey all authority and do whatever the status quo says is good to do. But if the status quo changes to another status quo then we should obey that status quo slavishly instead. I looove social media!" in a completely serious tone of voice without rolling their eyes or smirking or giving any other sign that they are anything but 100% unironically serious

women udnerstand that. women also understand how to spend money they didn't earn, and feel entitled to provide input in any situation even when they have done nothing to earn the respect of the group or society. women also very easily understand that despite being a 5/10 chunky fat girl who works at a coffee shop, they deserve to marry Napoleon and tell him what to do all day and nag him and be a cunt because they're daddy's little girl. also society owes them money
>>
>>10378217
finally, someone else gets it!
>>
>>10378172
Why do you want books women can't understand?

File: Vishnu.jpg (37 KB, 466x486)
37 KB
37 KB JPG
http://www.scaruffi.com/phi/hegel.html

Is this an accurate summary of Hegel's line of thought? Why or why not?
9 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>10377010
>>10377698
Fuck off Anal Water, nobody likes you on /leftypol/ and nobody likes you here
>>
>>10377717
You're just an idiot, you can't expect to learn difficult concepts from a few paragraphs on 4chan, you are literally to stupid for this so stop posting about it
>>
>>10377730
He posts on /leftypol/ too?

Has he been demolished as a Redditor fraud there as well?
>>
>>10377717
>empyreantrail.wordpress.com
Knock yourself out. There's a reason everything there is usually 3k+ words, and it's not because this is hard to explain. This stuff is actually quite simple, but it's not the given simplicity you're used to.

>>10377020
Pure negativity. That's the core idea. You know how (-1 x -1 = 1)? That's all it is. Absolute negation always comes back to an positive element. Being is the absolute abstraction (negation) of determinacy, Nothing is the abstraction from abstraction. The being of Being is Nothing, and the nothinging of Nothing is Being. This movement of self-negation is itself abstracted as its own form analyzed, and self-applied to abstract and negate from again.
>>
>>10378146
What's his reddit nick?

File: ratners star.jpg (102 KB, 326x500)
102 KB
102 KB JPG
itt: we post the underrated books of authors


Among Delillo's best
>>
Silmarillion is the only good Tolkien.
Hobbit and lotr are awful
>>
>>10378376
>farmer giles
>not good
Are you some kind of seriousfag?
>>
>>10378084
I actually just took out a DeLillo analysis book from my library called in the loop. I should check out that RS chapter soon. RS would make a great movie
>>
>>10378084
The River is Flannery O'Connor's best short story. People sleep on it criminally.
>>
Vanity Fair is indeed a great book, but this little work (totally forgotten) is among the most delightful things ever written.

File: download (3).jpg (2 KB, 138x83)
2 KB
2 KB JPG
"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general".

“In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism".

Is he, dare I say it, /our guy/?
>>
His Lasalle quote is funnier tbqh.
>>
File: marx.jpg (49 KB, 474x555)
49 KB
49 KB JPG
>>10378214

/thread

also go the fuck back to /pol/ you wretched shit-stain.

File: maxresdefault.jpg (55 KB, 1280x720)
55 KB
55 KB JPG
What's so bad about ideology?
25 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>10377992
>deconstructionism
>inherently postmodernist

Really?
>>
>>10378036
>Foucault
>deconstructionist
He never claimed to be one :^)

And yes, Foucault was a post-modernist. Do you have any arguments to counter that?
>>
>>10377366
What this guy said >>10377992
>It is postmodernist if it's just a description of the evils of capitalism and it isn't sustained by at least some sort of sense about where should be headed.

It makes sense because "postmodernism" is a reaction to "modernism" which was fueled entirely by the social changes being pushed forward by the growing adoption of capitalism.
>>
>>10374421
What's up with all of the Zizcucks on this board?
>>
>>10378340
Zizek is /our guy/ reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lehMY4_fx7g

comfy sweater edition
2 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>10376624
Does anyone got the time stamp for where he shits on Petersons simplification of postmodernism? He usually does it every live stream.
>>
>>10376624
>postmodernism is one of those words where the meaning of it is all of the map
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>10377266
Timestamp?
>>
>>10377266
as much as i love sadler he is a baby boomer after all
>>
>>10377369
Right after 44 minute mark I think

File: 1497908290308.gif (1.82 MB, 480x272)
1.82 MB
1.82 MB GIF
Have you ever imagined your future wife observing you through your own eyes while you read?
On our first imagined meeting I run through a range of possible idealised dialogue on philosophy, history, the aesthetics of certain literary works, which usually leave her anywhere between being mildly impressed to overawed.
Whenever I have to look up the definition of an archaic word more than once I feel like I've let her down and I'm diminished somewhat in her eyes because she sees and judges my failure immediately. I try to redeem myself by offering up some insight on character or understanding an allusion. Occasionally I picture her giving me a cursory nod to spur me on. Most of the time I just feel worthless because I can't hide my glaring inadequacies from her.
Is this just typical masturbatory pseud behaviour?
Is this unhealthy?
18 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
How lonely do you have to be that you create an imaginary gf that judges you?
>>
>>10376656
This. My future wife is out there fucking some Chad right now.
>>
>>10376941
I saved some.
>>
>>10376152
sounds like you're projecting your ego onto something

see ego death
>>
>>10377532
Oh, well, she's one of those ultra loyal girls, honestly it's wonderful and there's no woman I love more than her

File: cowboy-sunset.jpg (461 KB, 769x780)
461 KB
461 KB JPG
Looking for good Westerns. What Iève read so far:

The Son
Butcher's Crossing
Lonesome Dove
All the Pretty Horses
5 replies and 1 image omitted. Click here to view.
>>
Haven't read any westerns yet, would really love to. What's the FIRST one I should read?
>>
>>10376606
The Crossing and Warlock are considered probably the greatest western novels. Blood Meridian is fantastic but its an anti-western. The Ballad of Dingus Magee is another great anti-western.

>>10378249
Cormac McCarthy's Border trilogy (all the pretty horses, the crossing, cities of the plain)
>>
In the Rogue Blood
>>
true grit
>>
>>10376579
Hi Tom



Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.