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Complete novice here

What is the best starting program? Most often people say SS but then someone refutes it by saying it is a meme. I also heard that Greyskull is good but which version is best? Is there anything better than Greyskull.
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>>43898830
Those aren’t bad for gaining a bit of muscle but you only gain a small amount in few areas, they’re good for strength too but if you start with a decent amount of volume and hit more variety in your body parts more muscles will grow in a way that looks aesthetically pleasing. Make sense? Plus it’s just as good strength, arguably better. My bench exploded when I upped the rep range and frequency.
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>>43898905
By a variety do you just mean different exercises?
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bump
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>>43898522
SS is good but I'd say the best is probably ICF (ice cream fitness) for 6-12months then do whatever the fuck you feel is right. You work everything with ICF such as grip, neck and core which you usally don't with other programs. Why people are hating on SS is because they don't respond well those programs AND STAY ON THEM for 2years+ complaining about their shit gains. If a program gives you very few gains in 3months then just change your program. Or diet
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>>43898613
What do you do if you don't fail the first set but fail the others 2 times in a row? Keep trying without deloading?

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> been cutting for 6 weeks
> lost 5 Kg
> keep losing a lot of muscle (almost as much or more than fat
> Eat a lot of protein ~140g per day
It really pisses me off, what am I doing wrong?

I was 70Kg lean, pic related, bulked like a mad man to 85 Kg, gained a lot of fat, now I need to dump this stupid belly. But the belly isn't getting smaller AT ALL.

I used the skin caliper and the fat on belly is exactly the same as when I started the cut. How long should I keep going?
current cal: 1500 per day
height: 181cm
current weight: 80 Kg

Pic related weight: 70Kg
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>>43900372

sounds like you should go to a doctor. assuming you didn't stop working out, you shouldn't be losing muscle.
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>>43900544
Did not stop, workout the same time as before my cut, feel a lot weaker but still try to do the same volume (e.g. used to dumbbell press 36Kgs for 11 reps, now can hardly push 3-5 reps)

, a while ago I had a blood test and they said my thyroid is under or overactive, can't remember. But the doc said it's very mild so I should come back in 3 months and redo the test and they'll only do something if it's still the same then.

I totally forgot about that, should I be worried and get checked out?
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>>43900372
>bulking 15kg

Well shit i think i found your fucking problem. When you had put on 10kg didnt you stop to consider the balance of fat to muscle you had gained? When youre bulking to such levels you should always be keeping an eye on the exit sign always; when you put on 5kg during your bulk you should always be thinking about the month or two youll need to cut to make it a lean gain of 2-3kg of muscle.

With a 15kg bulk you should have known youd have months and months ahead of you of cutting, cardio, stalling lifts all while looking like shit. This is why people clean bulk. A few kg gained slowly while looking good year round me and others have found to be preferable to changing pant sizes each week and having a fat belly.
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>>43900593
Do you reckon he has low test
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>>43900649
Following on this; cardio. It will help you keep your sanity during this long cut ahead of you. Eating 2000 calories and running i found way better than eating 1500 and waiting to sleep. It makes the cut easier when you can eat shit regularly and still burn enough to end up in deficit which you will need as your cut is going to last a long bloody while.

Maybe a placebo or not i dunno but i found my cut with cardio to be infinitely more successful than the previous ones without too, felt like i got way leaner and better looking with it

Who is /fat/ for?
For /fat/fucks who want to better themselves through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication

>This is not QTDDTOT, ask questions about fat loss but use that thread for general questions

>Calculate your Body Fat Percentage
http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy (Gonna need waist/neck measurements)

>Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure)
http://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/ (complex)
http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html (simple)

>Plan your weight loss week by week
http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php


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From 98.5kg to 80kg, around 6 months

still pretty /fat/ but its looking better.
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>>43900762
lookin good mane
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>>43900762
sugoi
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>download fitness app
>choose beginner programme
>first exercise is 3 reps of 12 pushups
What did they mean by this?
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>>43901362
They meant three sets of twelve reps of push ups but that's pretty bad. Trash that app.

ITT: God tier, relatively "healthy" drinks
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>>43899350
genius
trying tomorrow at the gym, hope my gym crush will notice my putrid smell
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get your fucking gamer drinks out of my /fit/ shitboys
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>>43876241
I thought sipps was a meme... turns out I was wrong. MAJORLY wrong.

I drank two yesterday, got a ton done around my house, then worked out for 2 hours (programming, did a ton of BW, stretching etc). Then I got home and went for a 14 mile run. By the end of the day I was running a 5000kcal deficit. (I’m on a cut, nbd).
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Just take a multivitamin with an espresso (no milk, no sugar), you fucking niggers.
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>>43898451
We moved to /ck/ and gathered strength. There’s a weekly sip general over there that hits the bump limit every time.

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Does anyone aside from fat people and Northern/Eastern Europeans like winter?

> fewer hours of sunlight
> hard to meet outside so bars/restaurants are extra crowded
> difficult driving conditions
> snow/ice that takes weeks to fully melt
> have to dress in layers

That last one especially was why I liked winter as a fattie. It's equalizing.
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Winter needs snow to be truly comfy. But Christmas is the greatest holiday.
>birthday of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ
>comfy time with the family inside
>sweater weather
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>>43900628
>>43900572
>tfw finally making some noticeable gains and have to cover it up with winter clothes
Oh well, guess I'll bulk til spring
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>>43900572

Motherfucker do you think anyone in scandinavia likes winter? Are you retarded?

Jesus christ, this board just gets dumber by the second
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>>43900663

>birthday of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ

He was born in April.

He also doesn't exist.
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>>43900711
It's the celebration. Also fuck off.

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>need to eat ~2,500 a day in order to grow
>skelleton
>cannot stand eating

How the fuck do people do this?
>need to cook 2 different meals a day
>stop and eat them in 6 different points of each day
>all day
>everyday

Seriously, how do people do this shit? I hate eating and I will never make it if I don't but I just can't do it. There's just days where I don't have an appetite and I just skipped having poke and brown rice for breakfast. I hate eating, it's terrible.
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>>43900656
presumably by not being a little bitch

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I'm going to take it easy lifting this week.

That's fine, right bros?

I'm still going to make it? Right?
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it's okay brah, just keep working out consistently
we're all gonna make it
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>>43899722
You were never going to make it from the start. But you already knew that didn't you, fag
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>>43899868
Shut up.
>>43899722
You're fine, don't worry about it.
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up your /MINDSET/ game faggot
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>>43899722
Only if its your deload week, if not, youre not making it.

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Don't mind me, just the greatest and only book on bodybuilding and strength training you'll ever need.
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>>43899566
Agreed. I own a copy and I have to say it is the only book I have ever needed
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>>43900517
Kek
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>>43900171

There's nothing wrong with good mornings you twinkshit.
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>>43900561
I own a copy of it and it's great for anyone who wants too pursue aesthetics. It won't help you win a strongman comp, but it's still better than most resources when it comes to aesthetics.
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>>43900588
I've never liked Good mornings and opt for stiff legged deadlifts instead.

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Meatcucks NOT ALLOWED!

A place for discussing all things vegan ethics, politics & health

Meat consumption is ruining the environment.
- Pollutes rivers
- Forests cleared for livestock
- Causes soil degradation
- Massive inefficiency
- Major contributor to global warming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production

Vegan Health


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>>43887928
>people who don't care about animals shouldn't go vegan anyway

Dumb image.
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>>43894306
I don't think factory farming is a better life experience.

When it comes down to it: I'm a vegan because I don't have to eat meat or dairy. Based on the evidence, there's a high chance it's better for the planet, and it probably reduces suffering of animals. I like animals. I don't have to eat them- so I don't.
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>>43896792
Some people eat dogs.

Also aren't pigs pretty smart and similar to dogs? If less graceful.

I'd rather hug a cow than eat it.
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>>43895666
Did you even read the post?
No, you shouldn't kill 4 year olds, because (assuming you kill them painlessly and they don't know they're getting killed) what you're effectively doing is hurting the family.
>developed
An adult cow doesn't have the potential to grow into a super-intelligent adult cow.

>>43895840
Because it's trendy.

>>43898909
Thing is, vegans disagree with that. ANYTHING sourced from animals is automatically bad.

>>43900014
Pigs can't be trained to do much other than sniffing truffles and some basic circus tricks. Dogs have been trained to do loads of useful things for millennia.
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>>43899997
I also don't think factory farming is better for the animals. That's the opposite of what I said, and I don't think anyone thinks that it is.
Farming animals in general though, where their quality of life is better than in nature (which isn't hard to provide - life in nature is very cruel and harsh), isn't bad for the animals at all, if we care for them properly.
When it comes to the planet and whether it is actually necessary for us to eat animals or the products they produce, is another thing.

is oly lifting gunna replace powerlifting as the go to strength sport in the west?
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>>43898886
if oly is removed from the Olympics
which is a possibility.
power and will take over as the sport continues to grow.
i hope strongman takes over.
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>>43899135
It's such a staple i don't see it really going anywhere, they tried to remove wrestling but ended up adding it back pretty quickly
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>>43898518
zoz
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>>43899135
>olynpic lifting being replaced in the Olympics by non-sports like powerlifting and strongman which require less talent and less impressive displays of strength and power
Lol, no
>>43898305
Olympic lifting has always been the go to strength sport in the West. It's an Olympic sport. All others forms of lifting are therefore irrelevant and inferior.
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>>43898314
Sorry dude, 9/10 people already just see you as a "crossfitter".
t. Fellow olybro

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The autistic girls (female) on lolcow are talking about how much they like big boybutts again

>lolcow DOT farm/g/res/65010.html

So why haven't you added Instagram thot booty accessories to your routine yet? What are you some kind of faggot??
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>>43898398
dicklet detected
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>>43898456
17cm
not everyone jerks himself off before doing pics
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I will forever mire this ass and body. Goddamn. I'm not even really fully gay but I would worship this ass until every fluid is extracted from my body and given in tribute to this glorious ass.
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Not even a fag but goddamn.
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>>43898456
>t. ayylien who doesn't know how a human penis works

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Small Dick
>get to ram fast af
>don't have to worry about hurting the girl
>can have sex with all petite girls if that's your thing
>can have sex with most asians

Big Dick
>can reach cervix
>can please most white women
>some women go crazy for big dick

I'm 5.5x4.5 how am I holding up guys? My last gf was pretty loose and she was white. Are all white girls loose? Can I get a high test girl with a tight puss? I've read online where this dude had to be very careful with his girlfriend during sex because it hurt and they had to go slow and usually stop.
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>>43887925
Girth > length. I fucked a 4'11 girl and my 6/7 inches apparently was kinda painful for her since the dick is hitting her cervix.

Also I think race has little to do with how deep her vagina is.
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>>43887925
>the absolute state of dicklets!
LMAO! you will never satisfy a woman! just become a qt twink trap, it is your only hope
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>>43899945
>>43889769
>>43893429
>>43894596
I heard there was a 7 inchers meeting?
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How am I supposed to measure this shit bros, because bone pressed vs. non pressed is the difference between like half an inch, difference between 5.75 and 6.25.
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>asian
>virgin
>5.5x4.5
Just.

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>so anon, what do you do aside from work out at the gym?
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I don't even have a life anymore

i wake up at 3 in the afternoon, go to gym, go to work, come home at midnight, then mindlessly stare at the internet until 4 in the morning. rinse and repeat.

some weekends i might go clubbing, but will either end up with a thot thanks solely on my gains, or alone in a takeaway watching the sun rise while staring at my half eaten pizza slice wondering where it all went so wrong

If I hadn't started gym i'd have literally nothing by now and would've probably killed myself.
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>>43900349
face it anon, anyone can go to a gym.

going to a gym doesn't make you anything.

you are still nothing, in the gym or not.

do something useful and get a job or you will continue being nothing.
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>>43900393
reading comprehension of a child
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>>43900393
>anyone can go to a gym
yeah, but how many do? maybe you should stop diminishing others down to your level so you can feel better about your own failures

6/10 bait made me reply
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Watch my cryptos rise

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Don't post in the weeb's thread edition.

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Mod on this board is an absolute faggot. Permabanned for that? It wasn't even the thread OP. Lucky new connection with dynamic ISP is only week away.
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looking forward to having your entire future subnet blocked, OP

kill yourself btw



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