Pics and discussion of interesting /n/ related infrastructure. Could be bridges, viaducts, tunnels, roads, stations, ports what ever.
The humble Hill Road Flyover (1:10 grade)
>>1118014Fuck
>>1118005that place in wotw
>>1118016Also what would be the dopest flyover/bridge/viaduct / elevated strcuture ever proposed.
>>1118017reminds me of that horrible movie with tom cruise, war of the worlds or whatever. he lives in an area like that
>>1118035Are you fucking retarded?
>>1118037I don't know. Am I?
>>1118053Maybe you're just blind, in any case "wotw" stands for "War Of The Worlds"
>>1118038Brazil?
Firth of Forth railway bridge, Scotland. Completed in 1890. Massively over engineered cantilever bridge, built as a replacement after the (original crossing) Tay Bridge disaster.
>>1118116>forgot to post pic
>>1118005For me stuff like bailey bridge and truss bridge interests me the most.It's cheap, quick to build, and even though they're meant to to be temporary infrastructure, plenty of them last for decades, well beyond their intended life.I live in a third world country (in a hilly area no less) and these bridges are live saver as well as bridging the socioeconomy between urban and rural area
The new and the old
>>1118017What will the other side of those pylons support? It's going to be narrower than the roadway on it in the pic.Why didn't they tear down the old bridge instead of building right up through the fucking thing
>>1118207New looks like shit. I hate nearly every cable-stayed bridgeDoes anyone know where the fuck this is?
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>>1118213Chongqing most likely
>>1118213A regular pedestrian bridge in Chongqing, connecting the 13th floor of the building at one end to the ground on the other end of the bridge, due to the terrain of the place. Seems to be frequently used by residents there. The bridge is 30m long and up to 40m above ground.
Crossrail is a 118-kilometre (73-mile) railway line under development in England, running through parts of London and the home counties of Berkshire, Buckinghamshire and Essex. The central section and a large portion of the line, between Paddington in central London and Abbey Wood in the south-east, are due to open in December 2018; when it will be named the Elizabeth line in honour of Queen Elizabeth II.[5]
Those crazy Dutch
>>1118218>>1118219This is impressive as fuck.>picOne of my favorite sections of highway, the Shimanami Kaido.
Diverging diamond interchange is pretty neato.
Tokyo Bay Aqua Line10km of tunnel starting in Kawasaki city. Leading to an artificial island and then 4.5 km of bridge to Kisarazu City.
>>1118225ty anon>>1118265Looks like shit
>>1118410Would be better if it cost cheaper to use
>>1118458>intersection bigger than the city
>>111845890% road, 10% everything elseHonestly, I fucking hate massive cager infrastructure. It really shittifies any place.
>>1118458Wtf man.
>>1118458>6 lanes roads >less than 50 cars take that road everydayIs some kind of /n/-triggering apparatus ?
>>1118218Another boat elevator somwhere near my place
>>1118479it replaces 17 canal locks for a height of 44m. The canal is connecting the seine and the rhine.
>>1118116>built as a replacement after the (original crossing) Tay Bridge disaster.>>1118117Wrong. The Tay Bridge was built and replaced, but the Forth Rail Bridge wasn't it's replacement. It was a crossing over a whole other river.You're right when you say the Tay Bridge disaster influenced it's design.
>>1118177Is there any significant benefits of using this kind of bridges compared to box girdle-type bridge? I don't think they're any more expensive and truss bridges are ugly af.
>>1118518You don't really have to do static test on both bailey bridge and truss bridge. Soil test is enough afaikAlso, no, Bailey bridge is much cheaper than box girdle bridge. I recalled that a landslide washed away a bridge near my place (it was around 30-40m long) and the army had built a bailey bridge in less than 5 days and cost less than 1 million dollarsA more permanent box girdle bridge was then constructed nearby and while it is slightly longer (I think), the cost to build the bridge is easily 10 times the amount of the bailey bridge. Fortunately they still haven't remove the bailey bridge townsfolk could use either one
>>1118518>>1118521Another advantage of truss/bailey bridges is that they can be easily shipped to a site in relatively small, lightweight pieces. Look at turn-of-the-century truss bridges in the US, they are all comprised of small parts that were delivered to their sites on horse-drawn carriages. That's still a big advantage in many part of the world.Steel and concrete girders are extremely heavy and long, it takes significant infrastructure already being in place to move them about, although they do offer advantages of their own.
American parking garage circa 1970. This was considered large and very modern for its time, although it seems quaint today. Most have been torn down because of their alienating presence in the city.
Georgia 400 land clearing between Buckhead and Dunwoody in 1990.
>>1118410I'm assuming there's a reason it's not tunnel all the way. harder rock or something?
>>1118540>that bell when you turned the elevator crank.holy pre-school. haven't seen that thing in an age
>>1118636New Zealand?
>>1118659>artistsShame they didn't fall.
>>1118617Probably not, it's way more expensive to tunnel than even building a bridge so they use a tunnel only for going underneath the shipping channel.>>1118659Wish they'd fallen off
>>1118659this pic makes my nuts tingle
>>1118710>Probably not, it's way more expensive to tunnel than even building a bridge so they use a tunnel only for going underneath the shipping channel.This. It's also the reason that Japan's first rail lines connecting Kanto and Kansai areas took the Tokaido route instead of going through central Japan like the government and military originally wanted.
West Gate Bridge, Melbourne
>>1118636That's safe. 100% safe.
>>1118736the maglev line from tokyo to nagayo is tunneling straight down the middle of honshu.
Smart Tunnel, hybrid of car passageway and flood channel. I can't find any similar to this around the world.
>>1118663Yep. Pretty sure I drove across that when I visited.
>>1118005I can't explain my autistic obsession with urban British motorways. Pic related is Anderston Interchange, a massive junction slammed right within Glasgow city centre.
>>1118922Yep, and the tunneling is most of the reason it's as expensive as it is. But the choice is tunnel or don't have it at all, since the coastal route is too curvy for it to keep the high speeds up.
>>1118999the coastal route is also the most heavily populated part of japan. the maglev line might encourage some population to move to the mountains. one of the maglev stations will be one station over from the us army base I used to work at.
>>1118999Even on flat, open ground, maglev is more expensive than anything else
>>1119009Yes, but not the meme tier levels of expense that I constantly see shitposted about whenever it comes up. When you have to tunnel for 250km~ of your 280km line, especially under mountain ranges and under existing city infrastructure, no shit it's going to cost a fuckload.
>>1119009it's fast, and makes sense in japan.
>>1119011and it all has to be proof against earthquakes in the most earthquake prone country on the planet.
>>1119011Too bad anywhere it could be used will necessitate expensive earthwork and tunneling. The meme is real
>>1119013I wouldn't really mark this against maglev when all rail in the country, including the existing shinkansen lines, have to handle earthquakes as well.>>1119014I can think of several US routes that would get by with no more tunneling than a conventional HSR, but I realize the US would no sooner build true intercity rail outside CA/NE Corridor than tear down the expressways.
>>1118975You came to the right place anon
>>1118659i wonder why these dudes dont just get some ropes or somethingrope is cheap and while you'd probably fuck yourself up real bad if you fell, it wouldnt be as bad as falling to your death entirely
>>1119105what would you tie off to
Glenfinnan Viaduct, of Harry Potter fame.
>>1119002Hashimoto station at Sagamihara City isn't actually a target. The area is already populated being in Greater Tokyo. Chuo Shinkansen only solves the access to Shinkansen and supplement Keio Sagamihara line until Odakyu Tama line is extended.
>>1119109magnets
>>1119109The railing.
>>1119109The barrier on top, or just the stair leading down there
>>1119014Projected second high speed link between Beijing and Shanghai
>>1119118>>1119002It's obviously not having the mountain accessibility in mind seeing how they rejected Nagano's request
>>1118202Nothing gets my dick harder than Victorian era monstrously over-engineered railroad bridges.Pic related. According to civil engineers, if all maintenance stopped tomorrow, it would stand for another 1000 years. All other bridges in NYC would be lucky to last 300 years under similar circumstances.
>>1118617Same reason as the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel connecting the DelMarVa peninsula to Norfolk. Tunnels are as expensive as hell, and they built the bare minimum required to not fuck with shipping traffic, while going with a causeway for the rest.The Aqua Line went with one big tunnel because all of Tokyo Bay's shipping passes over it and it only had to cover 8 or so miles. The CBBT went with two smaller tunnels to create inbound/outbound lanes, since it only has to service Baltimore and Norfolk/Newport News and the total crossing os over 17 miles long (but eliminates trip that otherwise would take 10+ hours if you drove from Norfolk to DelMarVa via Richmond, DC, Annapolis, and the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
>>1119166Could do with a lick of paint.
>>1119017Here's to hoping that Japanese turbo-nationalism and the desire to wave their technological dicks around vis a vis their superconducting maglevs actually comes to fruition via their proposal to build the 100% pro bono proof-of-technology line between DC and Baltimore. I could see a Chuo Shinkansen-style line making sense as a DC-NYC connector, and it could do amazing things for Baltimore, Wilmington, and Philly, essentially turning them into commuter suburbs of DC and NYC.That said, it's the only corridor in the US where such a setup has even a chance of making fiscal sense. LA<->SF is too long and doesn't have the density along the route, LA<->SD is too short with not enough density, NYC<->BOS is too long, with not enough people along the route, and Chicagoland, FL, or the PNW just don't have the density, either.Though I could hypothetically see a Chuo-style maglev getting built connecting the Texas Triangle, as Dallas<->Houston and San Antonio<->Houston have the density and proximity to justify it, while Dallas<->San Antonio has enough intermediate density with Austin and Waco to make it worth the effort. I could also see it happening between LA and Vegas, if the casinos footed some of the bill, I guess.
>>1119185For a further idea of the sheer scale of Hell Gate, that's a quad-tracked alignment that it carries. Each tower is on the same scale as the Arc De Triomphe.
>>1119193EDIT: Scratch that, the Hell Gate Bridge's towers are 100' taller than the Arc De Triomphe. New York is such a fucking /n/-gasm of a city.
>>1119188What about Austin <-> Houston with a spur to SA?
Clifton Suspension Bridge, Bristol, England. Still in use today. Another example of brilliant Victorian era engineering.>from wikipediaOpened 1864. The bridge is built to a design by William Henry Barlow and John Hawkshaw,[2] based on an earlier design by Isambard Kingdom Brunel, and contributed to by Sarah Guppy.
Whom here /skewed/>>1119132How do they work>>1119150>>1119160Wouldn't work unless you had someone on top moving the rope along with you>>1119166>According to civil engineers, if all maintenance stopped tomorrow, it would stand for another 1000 years.They're full of shit
>>1118975Some urban dual carriageways are madness too. There's this monstrosity with 7 junctions in a few miles in the middle of coventry.
>>1119238I see this every time I go into Bristol, lovely thing and it costs just 20p to cross it. One of the earliest suspension bridges and the original design actually didn't have the brick steps on each side of the river and would have been longer. It only got changed due to the investors not believing the longer span could be physically possible.It was built so high up because Bristol was an active port when it was built, despite being 10 miles inland. All traffic went through the avon gorge and round some pretty tight bends until ships just got too big to fit in the river.
>>1119238aesthetic as af
Do power lines count as transportation infrastructure? They transport energy. Same with pipelines.
Covered bridges are the comfiest
>>1119294Fuck being a lineman on that shit.
>>1119164U wat. Nagano government's alignment is absurd. Worst examples on par with Kyoto government's Maizuru alignment.
>>1119321That's Vermont tho
>>1118480amazing!
>>1119110Finally some infrastrustructure that looks great to admire from a bicycle.>>1119297All I can think of is that when travelling out any speed across that bridge your eyes would be going 'bright-dark-bright-bright-dark ARGH'>>1119340Absolutely disgusting
Anyone but me like driving over old, rickety bridges? I lament that so many of them have been bypassed and replaced now. I had relatives that hated driving over certain bridges because they were narrow, high, or both
>>1119541It's not like that at all, it's not that jarring
>>1119185>>1119193hell gate bridge was the inspiration for this, on a much larger scale.
>>1119297it is indeed very comfy
>>1119260>unless you had some sort of top moving the rope along with youWhy not. Or just go back and retie after finishing a segment
>>1119564There was an old concrete bridge that was being held together by wooden planks in my town that got demolished this year. Chunks off concrete fell when cars drove over it.
>>1119109railings or anything with a hole in ityou could probably even just use your parked car. just remember to put the handbrake on
>>1118248cross-London road tunnels when?
>>1119168wouldn't it be cheaper to just make the bridge go up and down?
>>1118458managing traffic made me hate this game so much
>>1120170too busy for that. the bridge would have to be prohibitively tall to let them pass under with out a draw bridge.
>>1118541All those buildings in the middle of so many trees look weird af honestly
>>1120170Not having height restrictions into your bay/port is better than having them, but of course it comes down to cost. Bridges are always cheaper than tunnels
>>1118461How does it ruin a place? America's greatest cities have massive car infrastructure and every year several people from all around the country move there because they're so great. LA, Miami, Chicago, Atlanta. If you hate intersections and freeways so much move to fucking Idaho then.
>>1120209>Idaho doesn't have freeways, intersections, or cager-centric infrastructuredafuq u smokin jamal?
>>1120209Also, LA, the simultaneous quintessential poster child of cager living and how shitty it is, just overwhelmingly voted for a 1% sales tax increase to pay for a huge expansion of their public transit.
Unfinished light rail station underneath Hannover Central Station, Lower Saxony, Germany. The subnetwork D of Stadtbahn Hannover (light rail) was supposed to be moved to an underground track in addition to the others. Instead, it recently got a surface extension that ends at the central bus terminal right next to the central station.
The bonkers ohashi junction, completed recently in Tokyo.A completely indoors highway interchange
The inside of it, complete with hundreds of thousands of tons of concrete for sound-deadening for the nearby building's residents
Bloukrans bridge
From a different angle
>>1118177Truly a third world engineering marvel, along with hairpin turn (and zig-zag train)
>>1120170>>1120172>>1120174They also had to consider the fact that the Navy's Atlantic fleet is based out of Norfolk. They didn't want to build a bridge over the only exit from the bay because it could trap the fleet in if it collapsed or was attacked. The Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel is the same way.
Ben Franklin BridgeCamden, NJ to Philadelphia, PACarries road, rail and pedestrian traffic.
>>1120783A view from the bridge.
>>1120209That was probably bait, but...I live in Eastern Washington, about ten minutes from the Idaho border, and they love their intersections, complete with massive trucks.
Wales, UK
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>>1118663south of greymouth
>>1121128Royal Border Bridge in Northumberland
Ribblehead Viaduct Yorkshire Dales
The Sloping Lock of Ronquières
Magdeburg water bridge
>>1118114yep
>>1118248that's the cleanest looking tunnel i've ever seen
Veluwemeer bridge
Seaport of Dover in Kent, England>Claim to fame>wikipediaThe Port of Dover is the cross-channel port situated in Dover, Kent, south-east England. It is the nearest English port to France, at just 34 kilometres (21 mi) away, and is the world's busiest passenger port, with 16 million travellers, 2.1 million lorries, 2.8 million cars and motorcycles and 86,000 coaches passing through it each year
>>1121833Related I guess.The Euroshuttle terminal at nearby folkstone, embarking and loading area for a car on trian service through the channel tunnel to Coquelles in France.
>>1121834Outsized cars used to transport cars and buses across the channel in under half an hour. The ferries still carry millions as they're cheaper and more interesting, but they take 1.5 hours.
>>1118005The new ferry terminal in West Harbor, Helsinki, Finland. Still some paving work etc. going on.Helsinki is by the way busiest passanger port in the world with Dover, UK being second. Ranking varies every year though.
>>1121849Helsinki is continuing it's metro system westwards to Espoo. The opening of the system is being delayed constantly but they are now expecting it to be open in November this year.The stations are very neat though, pic related: Lauttasaari station.
>>1121850Aalto-yliopistoAalto-universitetAalto University
>>1121852TapiolaHagalundTerminus station for the trains coming from Mellunmäki branch.
>>1121852>>1121853Nice stations, so here's a terrifying station
>>1118073'wotw' may also stand for: "what [an] obnoxious tight-wad"
>>1121833The road infrastructure leading in and out of that port is third-world tier. I can't understand who thought it would be a good idea to have all these roundabouts instead of free flow exchanges. If we don't get a customs deal with the EU the whole area will come to a halt just like when the Frogs have strikes at their border.
>>1121866London seems to like narrow platforms, like Clapham Common on your pic and Wapping.Pic, escalators at Helsingin yliopisto / University of Helsinki
>>1118636how lazy/poor do you have to be to not build two bridges?
>>1121850>>1121852>>1121853All of these look like the lighting showroom of an Ikea
>>1118342Didn't they build this almost completely on water?
just discovered this todayits in India
>>1121849Man, is that a tram going directly to the ferry terminal? I'm fully erect >>1121850>>1121852>>1121853Your stations look rad as fuck as well. Here's the least presentable station in our light rail system for comparison.
>>1122082>>1122082Yup, it's a tram going to a ferry terminals. Kinda like it, but also at the same time it's hell for locals living next to the terminal because often they can't get on the tram because it's too full of ferry passengers with their luggage.Sadly our tram system isn't a light rail standard, it's very slow, comparable to some streetcar in North America, like Toronto, but it's very comfy and efficent way to handle dense central city transit.If you like trams and ferries, sea and urban development next to city centre - Jätkäsaari island might be your place, read more: http://en.uuttahelsinkia.fi/jatkasaari
>>1122082And the stations are very new and barely been touched, but our stations on the existing metro network look like that.Pic related, Helsinki Metro between Kalasatama and Kulosaari stations.
Gate Tower Building.Company that owned the land since the Meiji Period didn't want to sell the land to the expressway company. They also wanted to redevelop the land. Which they couldn't at first because the expressway was already planned to go through that land. So after a couple years. They compromised on the expressway going through the building. the expressway doesn't make contact with the building. it is the tenants for floors 5-7. Only elevators, stairs, and machinery pass through those floors.
Lechmere Viaduct in Cambridge, MA
>>1121906Prolly it's a combination of low population and convoluted shit laws that requires all bridges to be overdesigned and overbuilt for "safety" reasons even tho a simple bailey bridge is more than adequate
>>1121906bridge is over 100 years old and middle of nowhere south island new zealand. it probabaly was just a train bridge at first. they have since started work on separate bridge for cars. the train will continue to use the existing bridge.
>>1121946this is for sure the local toe-gay. they drift the whole damn thing.
>>1122306>thinly veiled "everywhere but the USA is basically like 60s communist russia" shitpostingdeath to america
In my town>hey let's build a giant fucking brick bridge across the entire valley and build the town under it over timeFor Victorian times, 11 million bricks is kind of a big deal
>>1122647simcity.jpeg
>>11180382zany4me
>>1120209>>1120219> 2017> sioux falls not on ur greatest cities listfuck off
>>1122650It's pretty good considering what it's complementing/replacing
>>1118005
How about these prebuilt steel bike bridges?
>>1123022They're awful
>>1123022its like a cage
>>1123197Reminds me of this
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This is a sexy bridge
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>>1118406A ddi partially opened here this week. Not super useful at the moment. No traffic lights yet so most ramps barricaded and 2 way traffic on one side until spring.
>>1118210Maybe because it is being used? Some bridges are the only link to an area, so they build alongside the old one, then switch and tear down the old one when the new is finished.
>>1120567Sugo~i
>>1122973infos?
>>1123663is that the 401?
>>1123663Nope, near Regina.
>>1122647Reminds me of Edinburgh, desu
Craigellachie Bridge, Scotlandhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-41941126
Teesside
>>1123379On the NZ Mclaren tour.
>>1121946It is in Japan.Search "河津 七滝 ループ 橋"
i've got a whole folder of these.
>>1125802>>>/o/
>>1126150>What viaduct?
>>1126119Care to share more? I love these sorts of diagrams
>>1126550sure. i'll post a couple more. TFL released a bunch of them as part of a freedom of information request, just search for 'tube station drawings'. Its a bit of a pain to download them all though.
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>>1122647Ordsall chords coming Love the view from the Stockport viaduct, I get the train from Piccadilly to stoke pretty regularly and its beautiful all the way
>>1121906When the forests are deep enough.
>>1126777Shame they had to slice through the mainline connection to MOSI, though.
More bridges pls
Opening of the Mersey Tunnel in 1934
>>1126822Kek, that's in Belgium. They also built train stations that were closed down immediately after they were finished and a lift lock that no one needs. I guess they just like building stuff
>>1120173It's quite aesthetic
>>1118617>>1118617Being Japan you can be sure that part of it is different construction companies getting kickbacks.Bridge builders and tunnel builders both friendly with the government? Why not kill two birds with one stone?
>>1120173you'd develop an anxiety disorder if you lived in montreal, theres trees planted fuckin everywhere
>>1118244>the only shade on the streets is from an elevated rail>not a tree or even bush in sightbeing an american must be so depressing
The Prince Edward Viaduct in Toronto is probably the greatest piece of forward thinking in the cities history. The bridge has 2 decks, one for vehicular/pedestrian traffic and one for the Subway. However when it was being planned it was only to have 1 deck, but the designer and R.C.Harris (then commissioner of public works) envisioned that one day there would be some sort of rail line under Bloor Street so they pushed for a lower deck to be added into the design. This idea was controversial at the time due to the increased costs. The designer and Harris eventually got their wish however and the second deck was added. 48 years later the decision to spend a little more would pay off since in 1966 the Bloor-Danforth Subway line opened and now uses the lower deck of the bridge to cross the Don Valley.
>>1118117>>1118116Iain Banks wrote a book imagining this bridge extending infinitely in both directions.
>>1119238>Isambard Kingdom BrunelThis guy.He deserves a thread all to himself.
>>1125107That's an interesting concept for a port. Does it just go from one side to the other, or can it lift cargo off of ships underneath it as well?
>>1119166Did the guy who designed the Sydney Harbour Bridge pay royalties to this bridge?
>>1121906It's a decent idea if the bridge has low car and train traffic, why burn money if one bridge will suffice?
>>1118458>add roads and spread shit too far>crime everywherePretty accurate simulation of american cities actually.
>>1123022>>1123045I dislike these prefab pedestrian bridges, and they're everywhere. The fencing is so unwelcoming. I understand why it's there and there's probably not another feasible solution, but it just plain sucks. Even without the fences they usually look out of place because they're nearly always built with weathering steel instead of being painted. (weathering steel looks better than unpainted galvanized steel, I guess.) The prefabrication saves money for whoever buys them, but they all look identical---little or no aesthetic improvement over a concrete girder bridge, imo.
>>1132773The only alternative at similar cost and simplicity is the same principle but with the trafficway on top.
>>1132795That would frankly be better, but presumably it would still need a cage over it because of the liability of urban youths. So it's a wash.I wish they'd just try to make them look like conventional truss designs (Pratt, Baltimore, K, Lattice, Lenticular, Parker, etc.)
>>1118016This pic makes me think of the motorway scene in Solaris (the 1972ish Soviet original).
>>1118005Very good thread.
>>1133258Very bad planning, but at least Los Angeles is now trying to fix their's with zoning overhauls and new building codes for higher density and with light rail expansion.
>>1133259It's not bad planning, it's just planning you don't personally like
>>1133379it is bad planing thoughhave you ever tried to drive in LA?its hell on earth
>>1133394I don't have my license.
>>1133394Every big city has traffic problems, no amount of 'urban planning' will change that
>>1133447Maybe, but urban planing could at least be the difference between bad and worse.
