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Fuck the wiki, just inject shit into your glutes for the gains edition

Previously on the ronalds... >>43879070
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>>43893554
Me neither. I was paranoid about my own levels, that's why i read all those studies and now know what is best to counter it

Which is: niacin, curcuma/turmeric, and red yeast rice. Just eat less to no sutured fats and lots of good fibers. Cardio/exercise is also important. Less to no DHT compound and orals.
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>>43893640
so does fasting

so boys, why aren't you fasting again?
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>>43893698
forgot this

BP:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11416824

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12470446

Cholesterol:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4121682/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17193859

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9363296

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26013791

Inflammation:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17374948

Liver:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27458510
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>>43893640
how much niacin do you take? I'm taking a vitamin B complex now since im on blast and also some fish oil.

my saturated fat intake is high on some days. usually around 50-70g's.
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what if i start eating soy for a month, start sleeping 5 hours/day and also start going on buzzfeed so i can lower my test then go to an endocrinologist so he diagnoses me with low test and i get legal TRT?

i just want to be loved..
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>>43893698
You don;t eat, so can't eat bad food. Yes no wonder that's helping

Food is basically the main reason people fuck up.

>>43893728
You have to take at least 2-3 grams of niacin to let it work. red rice yeast 1200gram en curcumin the lower the better

The effects of curcumin on total cholesterol level and LDL cholesterol level, there was a trend that the lower the dose of curcumin, the higher the effect of reduction. For HDL cholesterol level, there was also a trend that the lower the dose of curcumin, the higher the effect of increase in HDL cholesterol level.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19151449

Just don't eat red meat and egg yolks. Especially red meat is cancer
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You guys are talking about inflammation?
I make my own tumeric, cinnamon and black pepper caps that I take daily. Highly recommended famillama
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>>43893698
I'm not a muslim and I'd rather do dnp for weight loss
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>>43893784
Wow that much? there's like 100mg in my capsule and it says already thats 600% of RDA.

>>43893798
do you just buy the raw ingredients or?
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>>43893784
>>43893803
dam fasting btfo
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>>43893616
this fucking pic wanna make me rip of the fucking screen of my fucking computer fucking test rage aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>43893616
what happenes if you take steroids than eat at the same calorie count?
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>>43893770
Then u go straight to bulking and high calorie diet, doing cardio every day to increase metabolism, eating every 2-3hr, after getting of the cycle after 4 months you lean out, eat super clean, really cut carbs, no sodium at all, slowly reaching a protein only diet and go mad and be fucking SHREDDED.

i love life (and pucci)
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>>43893811
You also have 500 mg capsules. Then you take just 4

Also make sure you get the non-flushing ones.

https://www.bodyenfitshop.nl/vitamines/vitamine-b/natures-way/niacinamide-non-flushing/
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>>43893844
holy shit thanks, this is cheap as fuck.
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>>43893842
is my original plan doable though?

how much do you love life
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>>43893876
haha I dont know man, dont do it, fuck being a /SoyBoy/.

Just train and keep pushing the limit and your comfort zone.

The strongest drug is your mind.

Get a good foundation before roiding it out.
They wont automatically bring you muscles in the mail. You still have to eat ever 2-3hrs to keep a continous proteinsynthesis continuing building muscles.
Lifting every day, having high rep days stretching that fascia tissue increase muscle volume etc.

Bodybuilding is like laying a puzzle, roids is just one piece of it
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>>43893811
>do you just buy the raw ingredients
Yes? You can buy any spice/seasoning by the pound from amazon.
>>43893825
Bruh...
>>43893811
>>43893844
What supps are you guys talking about?
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>>43893616
Gonna need some sauce on that
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>>43893724
>>43893698

Mate I am literally blasting roids because I want to die earlier and leave a huge corpse.
Your fasting health benefits have no powers here.
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Gaining weight, losing visible fat, strenghr is going up, blast isnt even in full effect.

Enjoy the recomp or up the cals for more gains? Leaning towards the latter.

Also got a reliable source for mk-677, shits like cheap hgh without the drawbacks.

>>43893844
Can confirm that these are great, I have the ones from Puritan's Pride.
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>>43893980
Do a fast for a day once a month or so.
You can't leave a huge corpse when you die a dyel.
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>>43893698
Fuck you and fuck your Soy Boy Pucci.

But actually proper water-only fasting within 72 hours is the only way to regen stem cells and totally replenish your immune system, do it once yearly.

Apart from that and the intermedient fasting bs can suck by big roidy balls.

t.BoiPucciDestroyer
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>>43894025
>Tfw you have lost more fat but have gone up to a daily 110kg
>Tfw people will call you dyel and small forever anyway as a joke
>Tfw body dismorphia is not fair

JOKES ON YOU I UPPED MY TREN TO 700 YESTERDAY
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>>43894115
>Tfw you can't even add a reaction image before you post
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>>43894115
>110kg
Have you ever posted physique?
People have made the joke "nano has arms the size of my legs" no shit mr stick I know I'm dyel.
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>>43893940
The infamous Ohio State asian. what was her name again?
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>>43894179
Yea a few times now. You always comment my leg conditioning is good, and some other dude says I look like a guy from operation werewolf.
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>>43894191
>The infamous Ohio State asian. what was her name again?
Dude I don't even know. I just thought she was cute.
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>>43894201
Ah yes I remember. You mainly used to post it as anon right?

Sorry I'm very forgetfull. I just remember masT, PC and Bimbo. Also Crusader for other reasons.
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What's the recommended blood test to get before and 5 weeks on cycle? What should i be looking at beside test and estradiol? Test only cycle btw.
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>>43894270
full blood planel.
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>>43894239
Mainly, then I jumped on this name so I could keep youse updated with the tren, and now I'm just too lazy to turn it off.
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>>43893616
What are you suggesting in that picture op? That the girl is a fraud? Is her ass fake
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>>43894239
Crusader is the reason I don't believe the "study" that says men administered test who also sat around gained more than natties working out
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>>43893770
Drink a bunch too
But test is the devil so no matter how much you crack it no doc will give you what you want
Especially if they're female

>>43893982
Im 100% certain im gaining fat at this point
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>>43893616
Dude this is the worst OP ever, and I should know because I'm a master at making shit OPs.

>>43893803
Didn't Jesus fast for 40 days in the middle of the desert

>>43893932
>They wont automatically bring you muscles in the mail.
>he doesn't even order Anchor Arms
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>>43894352
jews muslims same same
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>>43894357
go eat your raw beef
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>>43894375
I already did xx
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>>43894346
except those guys kept eating normally, crusader barely lifted and starved himself.

and then again the gains those guys gained was mostly glycogen.

>>43894352
that pic would be a good op
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>>43894311
Keep it on, I just had to relink your physique to your name in my head.

>>43894346
He did gain muscle tho.

>>43894350
How Jerry? Aren't you still cutting?
C'mon don't get anorexic on us.
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>>43894357
>jews muslims same same
Are you for real right now

>>43894397
Fuck yeah, I dig it.
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>>43894421
Yea no worries famalam. I'm swapping up my training at the moment so hopefully I get some more results soon.
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>>43893698

because im a low willpower faggot who likes food
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>>43894421
My body is so used to alcohol for fuel it immediately stores all other macros as fat
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>>43894201

Not a bad thing to look like.
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>>43894507
I'd never heard of it until Anon mentioned it, seems pretty cool at first glance. Also seems like a uniquely American thing too unfortunately.
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>>43894481
Simple, drink more alcohol, take some orals, liver pulls all the cals it needs to maintain and you'll burn fat like crazy.
Also don't eat.
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>>43894346
He gained muscle but inhibited himself because he's a retard who actively ate a deficit.
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>>43894481
Sup wit dat YK11 nigga?
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I'm 18, lifted for over 4 years and I'm over 100kg and got turned down by my oneitis for being too small (not exactly what she said but I know that's what it was)

I've decided its time to blast test
What's the best stack to mend a broken heart
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>>43894546
No youre right, thats my problem, I keep eating
Ill take as much tren as I can and eat nothing for 2 weeks. Ill lose an additional 3-4 lbs

>>43894583
Im saving it for a bulk
No purpose on using it on what should be a deficit
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>>43894507
He's on the fraud train too, dudes getting beefy
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>>43894587
You're 18. Come back when you've finished puberty, have a full time job, and are under 14% bf.
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>>43894587
>What's the best stack to mend a broken heart
150 test/week
50mg tren/day
25mg mk2866/day
50mcg T3/day
4iu gh/day
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>>43894587
you sure she wasnt talking about dick size?
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>>43894602
no

>>43894622
thanks
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>>43894583
>>43894592
>YK11
out of all the sarms, why that shit one
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>>43894643
You mad im going to bulk EXACTLY like big ramy?
Stay small, bud
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>>43894542

There are loads of people like him that he associates with in Europe, check out ninna_farakh on Insta.

>>43894599

I'm always wondering if the Wolves have their natty cards or not, they never brag about being natty or anything like that but they seem pretty adamant about being in tune with nature and shit. But then you look at Jack Donovan whos a monster at 40+ years old and realise you're an idiot for even considering that thought.
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Fuck this shit

I'm getting really fucking big guys. Fuck my heart, fuck everything else

I don't know how I'm gonna afford this shit.
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>>43894670
Paul, his brother and Jack may have been natty a few years ago, but they're all on the juicy train right now at least. It's good marketing, and I can get it if they want to feel like badass high test vikings
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tfw emailing boss
need to attach document
first thing that comes up is my lewd folder
do you think my boss would like pics of trannies?
probably not


>>43894658
>implying myostatin inhibitors even work or make aesthetic muscle

>Stay small, bud
aren't you like 130lbs.
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>>43893698
I'm not reading any of that but that girl is literally my fetish
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what's the consensus on lgd-4033
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How do I fight the whey bloat?

Is isolate better?

All the plant protein is kinda wack.

Beef protein is actual garbage.
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>>43893833
youll get a little bigger than go back to normal when you go off
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>>43894587
>gf dumped me because lats too small
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>>43894776
>what's the consensus on lgd-4033
It's better than dbol
>>43894784
Eat actual food. You should be consuming 50mg or less of whey/day
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i was about 205 in september and i just passed 220 cheers my boys!!!!
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>>43894670
>Tfw Australian
>/Nosocialmedia/

Thanks anyway man.

>>43894749
>Slayer
My heart.
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>>43894830
Thicccccccc c
Height? Mirin af
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>>43894824
What's your diet, Cap?
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>>43894824
>it's better than dbol
To be fair literally everything is better than dbol
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whats a good stack for the special forces? thinking about trying to do the navy seal training and becoming a force of nature
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>finally nut up and order dnp
>source gets raided by the feds the day that he's supposed to ship my order
JUST
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>>43894879
better luck next time bro
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>>43894875
Test + hgh
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>>43894875
200-350 test e/week
2-3iu HGH/day
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>>43894749
I wish I was that thin

>>43894784
Caseins better for me
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>>43894852
>What's your diet, Cap?
At the moment?
Doing keto and 50mcg of T3/day and 20mg gw501516/day because I'm a fatty.
Bout to cook up 5 eggs, 15ish pepperonis, 2oz of cheese all rolled up in some low carb tortillas washed down with some v8 and fiber then bed.
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>>43894891
We're soul mates jerry
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>>43894992
Brush your teeth before bed, sweetie.
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>>43895023
>Brush your teeth before bed, sweetie.
I usually forget honestly famillama...
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>>43895110
>all that food
>no protein
C'mon "cutting"

>>43895012
My deepest condolences
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>>43894882
Do you think it would be worthwhile to ask for a refund when he comes back? Or will he just laugh at me and ignore my email?
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>>43895149
>all that food
>no protein
Ya honestly I don't know what the fuck I am doing. I need to go vegan.
Word on the Internet is one sprig of broccoli has 20g of fake news protein.
I don't even know why everyone isn't eating vegans because of gay ya know?
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>>43895270
Well eating a vegan isn't eating vegan, so its not healthy
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>>43894776
not as good as lgd-3303

>>43894840
>Slayer
>My heart.

stay away, she has been claimed already.

>>43894857
why are we comparing dbol to sarms?
sarms actually build muscle while dbol just reduces the estrogen sides.
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>>43895252
Sure, you just need to show him your receipt and let him know that you didn't receive your goods. I hope he gave you a receipt? And make sure that it shows the price before and after tax, if not, that's illegal!

Jokes aside, you can ask. I imagine he'd have more to worry about that refunding someone right now. I'd write it off.
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>>43895252
it wouldn't hurt to try, but I would create another order elsewhere for now
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Another Saturday night shit posting and watching TV. It'll be different when I'm shredded. Just wait
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>>43894992
how long on cardarine?
have you noticed anything?
do you do cardio, if so, any benefits there?
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>>43893616
How bad of an idea is it to fuck someone who works at your gym? She's the assistant manager. Am I shitting where I eat, or what
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If anything she's shitting where she eats
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>>43895644
Nah it's cool then you get to find out all the other dudes from the gym she fucked.
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>>43895499
>how long on cardarine?
>have you noticed anything?
>do you do cardio, if so, any benefits there?
I have been using GW501516 on and off for years. It is incredible for cardio.
It is hard to appreciate the benefits of GW until you come off. It takes a weekish to set in and all of the sudden you are an endurance god.
Once you come off you suddenly notice all those bike rides/jogs/whatever you were doing are incredibly difficult.
I have never run GW more than 30 days
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>>43895699
>Nah it's cool then you get to find out all the other dudes from the gym she fucked.

Noiiice, that makes me feel a lot better lel
Thanks breh
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>test still isn't here
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>>43894840

You better make a tribe yourself then.
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>tfw got a 24 ban for brap posting
Somebody's gotta do it

I might hop on sarms while I'm cruising, is this retarded? Am I addicted to being on a substance?
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>>43896384
>is this retarded?
No that's actually a good use of sarms
>Am I addicted to being on a substance?
Yes
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>>43896613
Okay, brb researching sarms

Can we add somebody asking about sarms to /fraud/ bingo?
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>>43895452
>>43895470
Thanks guys. I'll ask for a refund when he's not radio silent anymore but I'm not expecting much. I'm looking to try to order from another guy.
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I was running in place in front of the mirror before real running, and man I jiggle lots
Smh
I think my dysmorphia reversed so now I have smallmorphia

>>43895497
You should play idolm@ster instead.
It sounds like you have an inner hole that could use filling.
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>people complimenting your physique
>inside you feel like you look like a skinny twink and need to get bigger

Did I legitimately develop body dysmorphia
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>>43897061
You look good in a post-vote way, but I'd say you need to get bigger.
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>>43897103
post-ottermode*
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>>43897103
I won't rest until I look like Johnny bravo. Tiny legs and all.
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i cant lift on blast

i just fucking cant

how do i deal with the bp and all that shit?
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>>43894830
Can you not post your stupid shit on natty body threads thanks.
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>>43897430
Lol
>>43897195
I get JB a lot
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>>43893616

what's the word on tb500 promoting cancer growth? I ran it a few times years ago and it really helped my tendinitis, but I'm not finding any real info other than shitposts
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>>43893825
>her
wait you didnt even say that
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Wow, anyone feel that tren amplifies dnp in a sense? On just test or even when natty i could run 500-750mg ed with bearable discomfort. I'm running a light 250 ed and the lethargy and lack of energy are insane. Also night sweats are pretty intense.
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who here /secondthoughts/?
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>>43898284
>secondthoughts
bout what?
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>>43898349

handing in natty card, had all my shit ready for over 48 hours now and i still haven't done it.
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>>43898371
everyone here had second thoughts and look at us now

just pin it my man
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>>43898424
youre all dyel fucks

you should be informing the public that pinning isnt a big deal

and the sides arent a big deal nor is the gains
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>>43898371
If you turn back now you'll still have your dignity. Besides, why do you even need them?
>muscles and pussy tho
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>>43898474

because i'm sick of being a low t faggot and i think the morality of staying natty is totally bogus
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>>43898435
>you should be informing the public that pinning isnt a big deal
it should be the other way around you dumb motherfucker

you think i want other people to get big and strong? i want them to be even smaller and weaker
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>>43898479
Do you even play sports for that 30% test boost?
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>>43898532

i watch sports sometimes
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>>43893770
You fucking moron. Soy ain't going to fuck with your test levels one bit. My adopted mom was Japanese, I eat about a pound of tofu and a shit ton of other soy products every week as comfort food. (Morningstar farms rocks, by the way.) Damn sure didn't affect my gains, I was wrestling champ in high school, did college powerlifting, and won three amateur bodybuilding titles in Texas. Have never touched beef or pork, either. I don't even use whey protein, though I'm not opposed to it. There may be plenty of people tougher than me, but it ain't because they listen to ignorant anti-soy autists. You're more likely to be absorbing estrogen from all those hormone injected (female) cows.
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>>43898755

source talk will get you banned my dude
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>>43898778
good looks, anyways, how bad will Anavar fuck my shit up?
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>>43893982
Isn't that the thing you could get cancer from. Or was that something else

also mail me about it otherwise

man i can't start my own blast. Something in me just is saying fuck lipids and just inject that shit


>>43898755
YOU GET CANCER AND AIDS
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>>43898792

Usually the OP has a little note at the end saying "oral only cycles are fucking retarded" or something to that effect.
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>>43898371
You wont have second thoughts in a few weeks lol
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>>43899196

I assure you anon, I am very good at putting things off.
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>>43899239
By that i meant a few weeks into cycle haha
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is getting huge worth accelerating male pattern hairloss?
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Fuck my first cycle is just too good, never expected to have this kind of gains. Thanks guys.
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>>43898798
MasT what are you even worried about

What else is there to do in this life but get fucking huge

You worried about a little bit of heart trouble that won't even bother you until you're in your 50s?
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>>43899239
Don't pin then faggot.

We're not here to sell you anything, no one really cares what you do.

Shit or get off the pot anon.
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>>43898798
I don't think MK-677 induces cancer.
I've been taking it for 4 days now, 25mg, shit feels good. Might be placebo but eh.

"MK-677 reaching the equivalent of at least a 6-8 IU daily dose of growth hormone."

"MK-677 exhibits no such downside (shutdown) and the research actually has proved that MK-677 can become more effective with long-term use."

"MK-677 was found to be exceptionally safe and actually showed to reduce tumors in mice, which scientists believe was a result of the increased immune system response MK-677 can induce."
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>>43899564
To answer my own question about placebo.

"How long does MK-677 take to start working?
After taking your first dose, you may already feel a difference.

The drastic increase in GH levels will occur within the first couple hours, and usually by the end of the first week you will likely start to notice a difference in your body composition already."
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>>43899564

It indirectly increases IGF1, does it not? Sure if you have cancer you might accelerate its growth but there is no reason to assume it causes it.
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>>43894507
Never skip leg day
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>>43899620
If you have cancer you're prob fucked anyways so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Entire family (both mothers and fathers) is cancer free so I'll take that risk.
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Are we all retarded for using PCT?
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/599950-YOUR-FIRST-CYCLE-Read-Here-First?s=76e900f1d32389bc2b7248af51abf757
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>>43899578
Mk677 is a constant bleed though
Why not mod grf and grhp
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>>43899628
Pretty much.

I still need to get some.
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>>43899644
Explain Jerry.
I'm still new to mk-677 but so far everything's majorly positive even if they might just be shills.
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>>43899637
they make a distinction between recovery from big cycles and small cycles.

from what i've gathered if you're using test any amount worth its salt (eg 30mg+) will shut you down.

The difference in shutdown between 20 weeks 30mg and 500mg would be pretty much the same because your hpta would react the same.

anyway shady forum posts are usually fucking retarded and why not get pct? can it hurt? i mean you can get shitty mood but thats about it, for some people the extra 50 bucks for pct is just an added trust.
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>>43899720
not to mention they taper their cycles for god knows why and add taurine as a required supplement.

Lots of bro-science in the diet section aswell.
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>>43899530
I am someone who worries a lot about things. It's my weakness, but also my strength

>>43899564
Excellent.

Mind sharing via mail?

[email protected]
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>>43899729
>>43899720
Agreed.
What bothers me most about the whole "if it fits your macro's" is the fact that while it's true you pick the healthier foods so you don't fuck over other things like cholesterol.
It's not just about the growth, it's about the healthiest approach possible.

I also think spreading meals throughout the day helps. When your stomach is rumbling you're not processing any nutrients, but that's just my bro science.
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>>43899720
>>43899729

The thing with SERMs is that they just hide the estrogen from your brain, if you aren't fat as fuck or don't aromatize a lot you should recover equally well with or without them.
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>>43899750
Check your mail Tinkerbell.
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>>43899660
Memek is massivelt shilled

But anyways you want to mimic your bodies natural pulses, not just flatout increase gh. Mk bleeds, so the levels are always raised
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>>43899751
all i could discern between IIFYM and clean eating is that clean eating made me look way way less bloated and actually made some more progress.

>>43899792
>or don't aromatize a lot
big if.

also the whole PCT and SERM shit is a huge gamble, all we know it helps a little bit and for some people thats enough.

they really need to do a long term study where they test people who did 1 year steroid usage at the same dose and then put them on a PCT regiment.
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>>43899750
But why are you worried in the first place.

How safely are you going to make it into your coffin?

We all gonna die MasT. Let's get huge why do you want to live in your 70s
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>>43899850
Not cutting away from your own production and just adding on top of that certainly must be a good thing right?

>>43899860
I'll always prefer clean eating, look better, feel better which leads to better gym performance.

>>43899861
Premature death perhaps, would suck to die from a heart attack at the age of 30.
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>>43899883
Well its like you were just sayin with food
Better to do it right.
Like it is still a gh boost
But pulses are better
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>>43899883
Get an ekg, maybe an ultrasound or whatever else. If there's no abnormalities he'll make it at least to his 50s barring slin+HGH growing his heart 3-4x the size of normal

Bad lipids take decades to kill. Same with lvh and high BP
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>>43899925
While I agree its hard to not want mk-677 when real GH is painfully expensive at high doses and a big pain to store and keep mixing as well.

>>43899932
Will have an ultrasound coming January, so if I'm in a good healthy shape the chances of premature death are slim?
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>>43899943
Other peps do pulses dummy
Man the shills got you good
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>>43899947
I only carry some knowledge on injectables.
So far I think I enjoy the mk-677, no harm there right?

Enlighten me wise Jerry, if you care to.
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>>43899943
Yes. If you have really bad cholesterol and heart genetics you may still die in your mid to late 40s, but you would know because your family would have heart trouble. Rich made it to 46 taking all that bullshit he did and doing loads of drugs/party lifestyle on top. You might be on the other end too, blast whatever and your heart still beats at 70+.
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>>43894191
julianne yamate
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>>43899968
Looks like I have a decent amount of time ahead of me then. Time will tell, I'll just try to enjoy every second of it even if it a short one.
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>>43899959
Look at ghrp and mod grf.
Unfortunately you cant trust the news on memek667 so research the 2 above seperately
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>>43899729
To be honest it makes sense to taper. It's going to be easier to go from 50mg to 0 than it is to go from 500mg to 0. I don't agree with you, I think testosterone suppression is dose dependent
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2104626

It's not just shitty mood. PCT meds are literally chemotherapy.
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>>43899990
Thanks Jerry, I'll look into it. Source doesn't carry it so I'll have to find yet another for this one.
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So umm while no one cares and with about 9 kg lost in a bit more than a month I'll probably take a pause now and finish up school stuff before winter , instead of spending every day sweating in bed, before I go on closer to single digit bf%. Do you want to see the results now or rather see them in another few weeks when I'm 100% done
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>>43900104
this was hard to read

>>43899996
huh TIL.
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>>43900104
Plugged in my almost completely uncapped keyboard since I'm cleaning so when I say please share now and at the 100% mark please do.

Unplugging again, shit is nasty to type on. Do share.
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Decided there's nothing more to do with my life than get huge before I die

I'm broke as fuck. Basically can only afford to run high test (deca and EQ fuck with me but test never has). Sitting at 13-16% bf 6'3" 222lbs

Done taking things slow at 200mg test e/week. Want to up the test to 600-750mg a week, increase activity level and put calories 10-20% under maintenance. When I get lean enough to bulk a bit, I plan to add 50-100mg adrol and up test further to 1g/week.

Anyone see any flaws in my plan? Further suggestions? Just tryna swell up.
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>>43899996
I always thought it was intetesting how like 50% of actual medical asin takers stop because of low estro sides

>>43900104
Y-yeah surely a small break cant hurt, right?
Are you still going to cut?

Post rear glute spread no homo
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Are steroids only worth it after you have completely maxed out your beginner gains and have been lifting a year+

I'm 26, seeing the insane advantage roids provide is tough, because I'll still be in the gym doing the exact same work but getting less rewards from it.

I'm not a fucking retard and I'm in control of my diet. Is there a reason why I should not (26 years old).
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>>43900124
S-sorry
>>43900160
>>43900172
Are you sure you want to kill the single bf% hype over this? I'd guess I'm 12-14% at this point. I guess I can start making my compilation picture in either way.
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>>43900217
I wouldn't say "max out your gains".

Not Auschwitz or fat as fuck

A year+ of training is important because it shows you're consistent.

If you really think you'll be in control of your diet and can stick to your routine, I can't really find much wrong. But that's a huge assumption to make with no prior experience.
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>>43900165
Seems like lots of test for a small deficit

>>43900217
Id say a year isnt long enough cause to me its an enhancement of the lifestyle but if youre confident at where youre at go for it

>>43900246
Then dont post it
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FUCK I never should’ve come to Korea, now I’ve fallen in love with Korean girls too. All this time I’ve never really liked Asian grills but damn they’re pretty fuckin precious over here.

They never age either hnnng.
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>>43900270
Test is cheap and only side is a bit of bloat and BP. I figure if it gives me even a little bit of help... Why not.
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>>43895787
Are you worried it will cause cancer otherwise i would've jumped on a long time ago
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>>43900311
I know what you mean man. I exclusively bang asian girls now. White ain't right. Not in America anymore, atleast. Why settle for the trash the American women have become?
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>>43900311
>>43900371
Plastic surgeries sure are hot eh?
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>finally get some BTC she place an order
>source goes on break that very day
>lose $20 from BTC fluctuations since then

Well that blows.

>>43900311

YOU HOLD ON AND NEVER LET GO
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>>43900382
I don’t mind it. It’s the mannerisms too, I’ve noticed they get pretty handsy with their boyfriends over here.
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>>43900371

>Only 10000km away

go for it bro
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>>43900443
I live and work in Asia. I'm visiting family back in America right now. I travel a lot so tinder plus ia amazing for setting up dates before I even land somewhere.

I will go for it ;^)
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ok. things I need for a low 250mg 12 week cycle.

big box of syringes
big needles for drawing
small needles for injecting
alcohol swabs
HCG
test

anything else i'm missing?
what kind of PCT should i do? or should i just cruise on 250 indefinitely and then try a 500mg blast?
I'm not looking to get Arnold huge yet, just Sylvester Stallone in the 80's sized.
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>>43900483
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>>43896384
cruise is the best time to use lgd for sure, it's expensive for what it is either way
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>>43900483

>ok. things I need for a low 250mg 12 week cycle

You forgot "an extra 250mg per week". A 250mg/wk cycle is pointless.
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>>43898284
can't say i did, but then i didnt enjoy natty life that much
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>>43900515
what have i done wrong now?
>low does
yes, a low does that should being me to test levels of 1200, twice that of a healthy mid to late 20 something

>>43900533
waiting on my blood test results but it's pretty clear I've been low test my whole life, so 1200 test levels will be a huge difference to me. i'd rather go too small the first time, i can increase the dosage for the next cycle.
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>>43900563
WIKI
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>>43900569
please directly link me to the part you want me to reread
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>>43900483
There is nothing wrong with low dose test, however 12 weeks for low dose is absolutely pointless and a waste of money. If you wanna do low dose you need to run for very long periods for it to be worthwhile at all. This cycle is gonna give you some slight gains and better look but you will have lost everything just a month or two after the cycle ended.
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>>43900597
i'm thinking blast and cruise, starting with 12 weeks on cruise then starting the blast.
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>>43900563
>>43900579

If you want TRT, go for 100mg as a starting point. If you actually want good results from doing something that damages your health, then you'll want to go over 250mg. Read the whole wiki, then reread the parts about beginner cycles.
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>>43899860
>big if.

You tend to discover this quickly this while on cycle, though.
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should i get caffeine pills instead of preworkout? They are cheap as fuck and theres 200mg in one tab and regular pwo has 200mg in big scoop
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>>43900311
GET OUT OF THE BIKE LANE YOU STUPID WHORE
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>>43900371
>White ain't right. Not in America anymore, atleast. Why settle for the trash the American women have become?
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>>43900662
Sure, you can also get all the other goodies you find in pre workout cheaper on its own. Buy your own pre workout ingredients and depending what it is you can spend less than 50 cents a serving.
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>>43900623
i want to go over just basic TRT, and i want to try low dosages first so if i decide i hate injecting and doing all this shit then i will have a much lower risk of fucking shit up

Is going on 250mg of test and just cruising on that forever a legitimate strategy? or should i do 12 week cycles of 500mg followed by 12 week cycles of 250mg?
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>>43900371
I've fucked w. east Asian girls. They're the same as Western just take more effort to hide it. Don't be fooled, there's no good women in the world. At least not what you're looking for.
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>>43900772

No, dipshit. Neither of those are good strategies, which you would already know if you had read the wiki. READ THE WIKI.

Your health will wear down if you're beyond natural levels for extended periods, so you'll have to either do cycles and PCT off or do TRT and add in cycles ("blast and cruise").

A cruise is a TRT dose, not 250mg.

Unless you want to die before you hit 55, in which case feel free to permablast.
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its so comfy outside my window.

anyone else?
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>>43900662
Most of the shit in pwo doesn't even do shit. Caffeine is all you really need.
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>>43893616
want to run this for 12 weeks (looking for strength) :
300mg test prop
300mg deca (phenyl)
dbol (??? or some other oral)
AI during the entire 12 weeks

do I need HCG?

How much of the gains would I keep after PCT? and how fucked am I since I'm prone to baldness and gyno ?

first cycle.
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Oi fraud any of you know if it's ok to take aas while on ssri?
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>>43900881
>these short esters

for what purpose
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>>43900846
Technically a cruise dose is whatever you can maintain reasonable health markers on; someone with IFBB genetics could probably cruise on 400-500mg with little issue.
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>>43900892
Fuck, imagine being able to run the average persons shit cycle year round.
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>>43900881
retard
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>>43900865
Totally
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>>43900846
>cruising on trt dose
what is the fucking point? you are just doing the work your balls could do

if you are going to pin until you die you better pin more to benefit more or at least as much as you need to maintain your unnatural muscle mass
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>>43900890
want to gain strength. wondering how much of the strength gains can I keep after the cycle.
muscle gains are a nice bonus

>>43900896
>rude
no need for that, bruv. mind telling me why you think this is a bad idea?
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>>43900900
comfy af man, mirin.

also that landscape. You could be my neighbour.
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>>43900895
>500mg is a shit cycle
>literally 4 times the healthy test levels of a 20 year old
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>>43900930
why do you run prop. you would have to stab yourself ever single day for 12 weeks.
u want strength but you only have 12 weeks, imo thats not long enough.
you want to run a decanoate ester on a 12 week cycle
dbol is fine.

you dont need hcg.
personally i lost the majority of the strength gains, but i didnt gain alot of strength in the first place, cant answer you that.
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>>43900925
trt dose is more 150 to 200 a week
250mg will give somebody test of 1000 to 1200, that's top 1% genetics and perfect nutrition levels of test
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>>43900982
250mg gives me >1500
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>>43900971
short esters to to keep the blood levels stable. also read it's a bit more advantageous at the end of the cycle.
I could run it longer - just read 12 weeks is not too short or too long (for a good recovery and to minimize sides)
300mg of deca doesn't seem like a lot especially with test. you'd change it to something else?

how about muscle gains? did those fade away or did you manage to keep em?
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>>43900988
that's well, WELL above natural levels

people are doing the same shit /plg/ does and comparing casual or recreational lifters to professional athletes.

the vast majority of people today have test levels of 400-700, the best naturally gifted athletes in the world would be 1200 at most even with perfect nutrition and health.

TRT levels are like, 100 to 250mg a week, and everybody says they pack on more muscle than they ever had before even without working out and feel amazing at that level
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>>43901060
Holy fucking shit man, you don't know anything about steroids. You better start reading now if you want to pin.
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>>43901060
longer esters keep blood more stable
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>>43901086
fuck off, Dylan. go back to you forum and push your bullshit products there
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>>43901079
>everybody says they pack on more muscle than they ever had before even without working out and feel amazing at that level
haven't read so much bullshit in a while

Test doesn't make you feel anything. Maybe you are "gaining" muscle without working out but only on paper. In reality you won't gain shit. Even on 250mg your gains will be shitty. Some people say that 300mg is bare minimum for hypertophy.
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>>43901126
one year on 200mg did this
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>>43901151
oh, and that left pic is after 6 years of training.
low dosages of test over long periods of time work.

thing is with a propper blast and cruise he could have probobly made those gains in a single 12 week cycle
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>>43901151
>>43901172
this is absolute fucking bullshit

it more like 6 years of natty hard work, long break from the gym due to injury or something and coming back on gear

if i would post my "progress" you wouldn't believe me
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>>43901172
> 6 years of training
6 years of fucking around in the gym?
I can believe it.
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>>43901172
first blast 20 weeks in or so
600 deca
400 test
5'9" 190~lb
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>>43901205
http://ironandtweed.com/my-low-t-journey-one-year-on-trt/

wihtin 2 weeks on 100mg he started hitting huge prs at the gym

taking your test from sub 300 to over 1000 is huge, just because it's not as huge as running a professional athelte level cycle doesn't mean it's not significant
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>>43901151
> left pic is supposed to be 6 years of traning
No way that is true with srs training. What did he do? P90X?
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>>43901126

>Test doesn't make you feel anything.

As someone on TRT this is complete bullshit. Before test injections I could NOT get rid of my belly fat and slight moobs no matter how hard I cut calories or did cardio. Also my traps and delts were very slow to grow in comparison to the rest of my body. Once I started TRT (I was literally at 190 ng/dl which is worse than an old man) my delts and traps exploded and within 4 months of having relatively the same diet I went from a 35 inch waist to a 32.
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>>43901243
and you look fucking huge

but don't you know? 400mg of test will only bring you to natural levels, you need to be cruising at 500mg a week and at least 750mg to make real gains. just like rich piana said!

seriously though, very impressive

what are your test levels now, and what were they before pinning?
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>>43901126
>Test doesn't make you feel anything
literally every single person who has done trt disagrees with you and agrees with him

what were your natural test levels?
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>>43901264
what was your test dosage?
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>>43899925
huh, I thought mk worked by increasing the frequency of pulses
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>>43901277

Doc put me on an initial dose of 250mg to raise my test which helped but unfortunately made my breasts swell since apparently my body aromatizes like crazy (weird since I'm only about 15% body fat). Now I do 100mg a week which results in stable blood work with no estrogen flare ups.
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I've been posting a lot but i've finally decided to cruise for a while, then blast, then cruise again
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>>43900982
ive seen plenty of people say they had levels of ~1200 on 150mg
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>>43901312
and i bet they felt fucking amazing
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>>43901317
I bet they do. I'm gonna start at that level once my test arrives and see how I feel. I have the T levels of an 85 year old man so I'm anxious to start.




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