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Coming to a Bar Near You: The Domesticated Bouncer

To avoid injuries and lawsuits, doormen (and women) are going to etiquette school

Bouncers at the Bull and Bear Whiskey Bar & Taphouse in Monterey, Calif., recently attended a class to sharpen their skills and learn how to keep cool in heated situations. Photo/Video: Jake Nicol/The Wall Street Journal

MONTEREY, Calif.— Robert C. Smith faced about 20 large, muscular men—many with beards, ponytails, shaved heads and tattoos—and demanded answers.

“What’s a drunk’s job?” he asked the audience, which had gathered here in a drab hotel-conference room.

“To start fights and pee on the floor?” one offered. “To annoy you?” suggested another.

A bouncer, as played by Patrick Swayze
A bouncer, as played by Patrick Swayze

The retired police officer immediately set them straight. “A drunk’s job is to piss you off,” said Mr. Smith. “You can’t lose control.”

Venturing where Emily Post left off, Mr. Smith runs an etiquette school for bouncers, training the men and women who serve on the front lines of bars and clubs. Instead of intimidating rowdy patrons and throwing out troublemakers, bouncers today need to do their jobs with a bit more finesse, mostly to prevent bar owners from getting sued.

There are important rules to bouncing, Mr. Smith tells his students, including tenets borrowed from the 1989 cult classic, “Road House,” starring Patrick Swayze as a tough-but-tender fictional bouncer. Never underestimate your opponent (bouncers have died when they didn’t expect a customer to turn violent). Take any grievances outside, if possible. Be nice.

“It’s your job to persuade this guy out,” Mr. Smith tells the class.

Robert C. Smith, in the green shirt, teaches how to safely restrain an angry drunk in a Monterey, Calif., class on bouncer training.
Robert C. Smith, in the green shirt, teaches how to safely restrain an angry drunk in a Monterey, Calif., class on bouncer training. Photo: Jim Carlton/The Wall Street Journal

California, Oregon and Hawaii are among states that require bouncers to train, said J.C. Diaz, executive director of the Nightlife and Club Industry Association of America, a trade group for the nation’s 50,000 clubs and bars. Some coaching is available online. Gilbert, Ariz.-based International Security Training LLC offers a course that covers “bad bouncers, good bouncers, gaining rapport with regulars and its tactical value.”

Since putting its bouncers through Mr. Smith’s paces four years ago, The Cloakroom, a strip club in Washington, D.C., has seen a 70% drop in its security staff using force, said Corey Primus, operations manager and a veteran bouncer.

“Before, it was ‘try not to get stabbed and whoop his ass,’ ” said the 6-foot-1-inch, 270-pound Mr. Primus.

As part of his 16-hour course, Mr. Smith shows a photo of a man’s bloodied face after he had been rammed head first into a door by bouncers carrying him out of a club by his arms and legs—like an airplane. The man won nearly $1 million in a lawsuit, Mr. Smith said.

“Folks, I know you’re big and bad,” Mr. Smith said to the group, which included four women. “Strive to never go hands on.” Instead, lure the troublemaker outside on a false pretext. “Just say, ‘I just need to check your ID and the light is better out there’,” Mr. Smith said.

Other tips: Before tossing someone off the premises, remove nearby bottles and glassware that might become weapons or projectiles. Stools can be dangerous, as can stiletto heels.

When a patron is about to become violent, he said, “don’t be afraid to wrap someone up.”

To demonstrate a proper restraining move, two bouncers put an arm lock on bartender Ben Lawley, a student who played the role of an angry drunk. To make the scene seem more authentic, Mr. Lawley shouted obscenities and sent a chair flying across the hotel conference room as he struggled to stay on his feet.

Ben Lawley, a bartender attending a Monterey, Calif., class on bouncer training, plays the role of an angry drunk being restrained by nightclub security.
Ben Lawley, a bartender attending a Monterey, Calif., class on bouncer training, plays the role of an angry drunk being restrained by nightclub security. Photo: Jim Carlton/The Wall Street Journal

Mr. Smith started his company, Nightclub Security Consultants, nearly 20 years ago when he was still a patrol officer for the San Diego Police Department. One night, after responding to a bouncer’s call, Mr. Smith ended up arresting the same bouncer for beating up a drunken customer. A business was born.

“I got the idea that if we train bouncers, street cops will have more time to do other things than respond to bar fights,” said Mr. Smith, who retired from the department in 2012 and now takes his course around the country. The $5,000 Monterey course is officially called Hospitality Security Training.

Keeping cool in heated situations isn’t always easy. Jesse James, head bouncer at the Bull and Bear Whiskey Bar & Taphouse here, learned that one night after his training.

An inebriated man refused Mr. James’s request to stop interfering with a house band and hurled personal insults at him.

“I started to lose my cool,” said the 6-foot-3-inch, 350-pound 36-year-old. Realizing the situation could escalate, he stepped aside so another bouncer could talk the man out of the club. “You’re trying to be kind, but it’s so hard,” he said. “You try to be a Zen monk.”

Mr. Smith advises students to pick their battles. Women aren’t allowed in the men’s restroom but they often go in anyway. Such a minor offense should be handled with a polite warning, he said.

He tells pupils to respect transgender access to restrooms and to tread lightly if encountering two men together, which could be a drug sale. “Pounding on the door when two guys are doing a dope deal in the stall could erupt in a dangerous situation,” he said.

The Bull and Bear’s current owners, brothers Anthony and Alex Buich, replaced their bouncers with better-trained ones who can’t drink on the job.

On a recent Saturday night, eight bouncers at the pub put their training to use. Mark Hughes, checking IDs at the door, smiled serenely when an inebriated man berated him from the sidewalk for wearing a Donald Trump “Make America Great Again” cap. “You have to let it roll off,” said Mr. Hughes, 42.

Floor manager Eddie Zammarchi remained calm as a young woman shouted obscenities at him for denying her admittance and emptying an open bottle of liquor he found in her purse.

“Sometimes I come to work and feel like, ‘Damn, I’m an adult baby sitter,’ ” said the 28-year-old Mr. Zammarchi, who stands six-feet tall and weighs 357 pounds.

Tony Arango, 23, a club regular, praised the bouncers as “really cool.” But even eagle-eyed bouncers can’t always prevent what might go down as the night wears on.

After a recent visit to the bar, Mr. Arango got punched in the face as soon as he stepped outside. The culprit: a man he had quarreled with inside.

Write to Jim Carlton at [email protected]

38 comments
Greg Sutton
Greg Sutton subscriber

It's simply not safe to be drunk or stupid.  Combine the 2 and all bets are off.  Teaching bouncers how to reason with someone impaired enough to be asked to leave a bar is a noble put uphill task.  

john boeger
john boeger user

why go to these places in the first place?

Brian Allen
Brian Allen

Not only do I appreciate my company being mentioned in this article but these comments are great!  Especially the ones about being a Scout and Cub Master!  lol So true!  Stay safe everyone! - Brian

Mike OGrady
Mike OGrady subscriber

You think they might get some training for a Raiders Game? I'm sure some of those Vegas Bouncers can use the extra cash!

Keith True
Keith True subscriber

Road House is my favorite "bad movie" of all time.  I never get tired of watching it.

RONALD MUSTO
RONALD MUSTO subscriber

Wow, the lede of this story seems to be that it is better to be 'pissed off' than peed on! Now that is a curve ball I didn't see coming.

Brian Charles
Brian Charles subscriber

Be nice, until it is time not to be nice.


Scott Murphy
Scott Murphy subscriber

Times have changed.  When I was in college, I worked at a "hockey bar" near campus.  We had a baseball bat and hockey stick behind the bar, and our bouncers were usually football players.  Good times.  :)

Aaron Zalewski
Aaron Zalewski subscriber

Way better than small pubs where the bouncer is a set of regulars who know their actions will be denied by staff should the drunk get injured on his airplane ride out the door.

Jeff Guse
Jeff Guse subscriber

If people are going to ask for it, sometimes you just have to give it to them.

Josef Rosenfeld
Josef Rosenfeld subscriber

Try being a Scoutmaster and having to deal with parents who have a sense of entitlement.  Those people aren't even drunk.

Greg Sutton
Greg Sutton subscriber

@Josef Rosenfeld Over immeshed parents are very much like out of control drunks.  It's best to steer clear of both.

Josef Rosenfeld
Josef Rosenfeld subscriber

@Greg Sutton @Josef Rosenfeld I agree.  Easier said than done thoug.  If there was a viable candidate to take the Scoutmaster job I was sucked into, I  would probably let him/her have it and walk away from the nut jobs.

Paul Wm Danielsen
Paul Wm Danielsen subscriber

" Aaaaaaah, alcohol. What a wonderful drug "

SD Sherriff to me as a young DDA as we watched a drunken man slamming his head against the steel bars one light in lockup at the county jail. My ride along experiences I will not soon forget.

John Nicholas Treano
John Nicholas Treano subscriber

After my experiences in the Pennsylvania Coal Region where the bars outnumber bookstores 10-1, I have a policy of staying out of watering holes.  There is always someone looking for trouble.

apexx scout
apexx scout

A drunk's 'job' may NOT be to upset anyone as most operate in attitude ok as all bouncers know.  The 'zen' operating protocol is good however some customers need the bartender to just so 'no' to anyone that shows the typical signs of outta control behavior as the bar must be held liable if a customer is injured.  Personal responsibility is mitigated with alcohol.  And ONLY alcohol.   We had a good prohibition act which losers rejected.  So...losers that market the drug alcohol have to pay.  

Dave Rogers
Dave Rogers subscriber

I love Roadhouse. Just don't eat the big white mint folks. 

Donald Hartman
Donald Hartman subscriber

I learned this the hard way as a young bouncer who thought he was pretty tough. I got my clock cleaned trying to throw someone out.


I'm well beyond those years now, but I found that talk (non-confrontational) was by far the best way of diffusing conflict and getting someone out of the establishment. 


T.P. Anglim
T.P. Anglim subscriber

So women are not allowed in the men's room (usually due to excessive lines that builders don't care to accommodate), with a polite 'warning',  but they can "respect" transgender access??  By what law is this?  What about women's rights to privacy and protection? Where does he get the right to make these decisions and teach bouncers his personal opinion?

Donald Morrison
Donald Morrison subscriber

@T.P. Anglim These are private clubs, and some are even structured to require 'membership.'  Executive orders or "guidelines" happily don't apply.  The goal here is safety, not time-wasting and misplaced respect for the Gender of the Day.

Harlin Smith
Harlin Smith subscriber

I can hardly wait until self-driving cars are here...

Tim Torkildson
Tim Torkildson subscriber

There's nothing that makes a man thicker/than lots of bad luck and bad liquor/The more he complains/the greater the pains/when tossed out of bars on his knickers. 

William Hall
William Hall subscriber

Drunk customers either showed up with a load on and should not have been permitted to enter, thus making any resulting problem with that customer partially the bounder's fault for letting them in.  If they came in sober, or sober enough to be let in, then the bartender(s) and wait staff should have been keeping an eye on how much they consumed, and how they were behaving for the signs of intoxication.  There is training for bartenders and wait staff on recognizing when a customer is getting to the point of intoxication.  As such, if a bartender or member of the wait staff continued to serve a customer to the point they become intoxicated and result in the bouncer having to give them a gentle toss to the pavement, then I'd consider giving the bartender/wait staff the heave ho as well, or remedial training and a warning at the minimum.  At that point you just have to worry about the sober customers who want to fight.

Michael Lopez
Michael Lopez subscriber

"Reasoning with drunks"


I don't think that will go so well....

PATRICK FARRELL
PATRICK FARRELL subscriber

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never underestimate your opponent. Expect the unexpected. Two, take it outside. Never start anything inside the bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.

-Dalton


Daniel Zivanich
Daniel Zivanich subscriber

Women are much better working the floor to keep the peace than men are, men are way too macho but that is just the way it is.  I will say that a man can usually handle an out of line women better than the female species.

Mr. Carlton calls these peace makers working the floor "Bouncers" a name that asks for trouble, kind of like calling them tough guys who will kick your butt if you even think of getting out of line.

Give me a little old lady who enjoys people to take care of my floor, one who does not know karate or carry's a pistol and my customers will always be happy campers & enjoy themselves which is what they came for in the first place.

WING NG
WING NG subscriber

2 bouncers to wrap a drunk!  

This must be a luxury.


Try no bouncers at most bars.  


Owners probably think they pay too much for the bar operation, insurance, too much alcohol & business taxes, cheap customers, too much quiet time, too much time cleaning the bathroom, to afford even 1 bouncer.  


Must be nice to get dropped on a carpet with a 3rd bouncer holding the legs.  Real world will be the cement and door corners.  These bouncers are wearing t-shirts, while bar owners want bouncers to wear suites.  

Joseph Katz
Joseph Katz subscriber

The lesson is: don't go to bars.

Jeremy de Jesus
Jeremy de Jesus subscriber

@Joseph Katz More like don't go to bars where you have crappy patrons. Most of the bars and lounges I go to you never see anybody get belligerent or combative. People are just there to have a good time and relax from the work week.

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