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I reread Goblet of Fire again for the first time in a while and came out frustrated by how Crouch Jr’s character was treated. There are a lot of interesting things about this guy. He easily tricked Dumbledore in the impersonation of a man he had been close friends with for years. Dumbledore, who easily saw through Gilderoy and Quirrell. Dumbledore had a preexisting, personal relationship with real Moody and still didn’t see through Crouch Jr’s facade. That’s an entire school year of fooling the world’s most powerful wizard.
And while doing so he managed to be arguably the DADA teacher the golden trio ever had. As an aside, this guy had to teach each year DADA and, unless he’s just popping in a movie for every class but Harry’s, that's a huge amount of dedication and deception. I mean, he had to make lesson plans for first years. Anyway, he completely won the trust of Harry, Dumbledore, and the student body as a whole. Including Neville, whose parents he helped torture to insanity. Yikes. We see how he directly influence’s the characters actions to help Harry with the three tasks. This is not just about being a good actor. This guy has some serious Dumbledore level manipulation skills and ridiculously strong magical ability. He overtook real Moody, one of the most revered Aurors in the world after being imprisoned and essentially mind dead for years, and hoodwinked an extremely old, powerful magical object that, as far as we know, had never before been tricked. This guy is good.
So, we all know that JK had to do a big rewrite of GoF. I have to wonder if she decided much later on in the rewrite to make Crouch Jr. impersonate Moody. For one, there’s practically no distinction between later books real Moody and fake Moody. It’s mentioned that the two aren’t the same person, but Harry, Ron, and Hermione treat the two characters practically interchangeably. It’s actually pretty easy to temporarily forget that GoF Moody wasn’t the real Moody. And Crouch Jr. himself is largely forgotten for the rest of the series. He’s never really brought up. Pretty weird for the enormous role he played in the fourth book, being the man most responsible for bringing Voldemort back to life. Of course, he’s conveniently given the Dementor’s Kiss at the end, but Harry never reflects on his time with Moody. He was Harry’s mentor for a full year, as Lupin was. How does Neville feel that the teacher who took him under his wing was one of the people who tortured his parents? That a Death Eater successfully lived at Hogwarts for an entire year? They were all largely affected by this incredibly powerful sociopath who Rowling sweeps under the rug.
I mean, what a bummer. Had he lived he could have continued to be such as fascinating, powerful character. A former mentor of Harry’s on the dark side. Someone with such obvious magical and manipulative skill working against the Order. He had an interesting, sympathetic backstory. His big ministry father never gave him the time of day. He, unlike the other Death Eaters, came from a background that was not already involved in the Dark Arts or raised on the notion of pureblood supremacy.
It would have been awesome to experience Crouch Jr. as Crouch Jr., beyond just being a Moody stand in. There’s no cannon information on what house he was in. Exploring, say, a Ravenclaw turned Death Eater would have been cool and gone against the whole “all Death Eaters are all Slytherins and all Slytherins are bad” theme which I think is one of the weakest parts of the series. There’s Wormtail, but he’s not a true supporter, just a coward. Having Crouch Jr. completely eliminated and forgotten feels too easy, and undermines his entire role in the rebirth of Voldemort. Also, think of how awesome a duel to the death would have been between real Moody and Crouch Jr. Think of the insane beef Moody would have had with him after all that went down. They would have been great counterparts, acting as the general of the Order and Death Eaters respectively. Instead, Crouch Jr. gets the Kiss and fades into obscurity, while Moody absorbs Crouch’s time as fake Moody into his character. Even if he still died, I feel like Crouch Jr. should have been kept more in the psyche of the series. Like I said, bummer.
TL;DR Barty Crouch Jr. could have evolved into a great character, but ends up a forgettable bump in the HP journey.
Edit: Didn't mean to say I don't think he was a good character, I absolutely do. I just wish he wouldn't have been cast off in the end of GoF. I think a lot more awesome things could have been done with Crouch Jr.
The game looks pretty far along and polished. Since Rocksteady is a WB owned studio, and Harry Potter is a WB property, it could mean this is their next game instead of the rumoured Justice League game.
The source was Press Start, where you can also find a synopsis for the title: https://press-start.com.au/news/2018/10/02/footage-of-a-harry-potter-rpg-game-rocksteady-has-apparently-leaked-and-it-looks-sensational/
The video is unlisted for some reason, so that could reinforce the idea it is legitimate.
(I’m new to posting on Reddit so apologies if I am posting this leak in an improper fashion.)
It would have been even scarier had the evil Hermione still had a soft corner for elves and freed them to make them a part of her dark army or something.
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I just came across one of those terrible ominous cliff hangers Rowling put in and it reminded me of reading Deathly Hallows for the first time in high school.
The last paragraph of The Seven Potters says, “Harry looked down and saw Hagrid spread-eagled on the ground below him.” The very next chapter is titled “Fallen Warrior” and I remember zipping through those first paragraphs to make sure she didn’t actually just kill Hagrid right after Hedwig.
Any other good instances of Rowling misleading people about potential tragedy?
I reread the series this past summer and started to think more about why the Slytherin laggies, like Crabbe and Goyle, are all really dim witted. There are many other slytherins that are described this way, and it could possibly be from the inbreeding done to keep their bloodline pure. Just like with Voldemort’s mother and her side of the family, the few purebloods that were left must have kept inbreeding, resulting in stupid Slytherins. I didn’t realize this until I got back to the 6th book and read about the Gaunt family, then it clicked why other pure blood families had similar traits.
I find it helps me study so much better. As a mechanical engineering major I find myself face first in a book more often than not. Gotta get my Hermione on!
In the 2nd chapter, "A Peck of Owls," on p.31, Uncle Vernon asks Harry what happened to Dudley and Harry responds saying he was attacked by dementors. Vernon asks what they are and Aunt Petunia mentions that they guard the wizard prison, Azkaban. Harry asks how she knows this and she replies, "I heard -- that awful boy -- telling her about them -- years ago." Harry and the readers assume Petunia is talking about Harry's father, but it foreshadows the relationship of Lily and Snape. I picked up on this my last read of Order of the Phoenix, not sure if too many people also saw it.
Re-reading Goblet of Fire something struck me as odd. In Chapter 28, The Madness of Mr Crouch, we see Barty Sr going back and forth between moments of lucidity and moments of insanity. There, he talks to "Weatherby" but immediately afterwards mentions his wife and child, and how Barty Jr got 12 OWLs.
"Thank you, Weatherby, and when you have done that, I would like a cup of tea. My wife and son will be arriving shortly, we are attending a concert tonight with Mr. and Mrs. Fudge."
Crouch was now talking fluently to a tree again, and seemed completely unaware that Harry was there, which surprised Harry so much he didn't notice that Crouch had released him.
"Yes, my son has recently gained twelve O.W.L.S, most satisfactory, yes, thank you, yes, very proud indeed. Now, if you could bring me that memo from the Andorran Minister of Magic, I think I will have time to draft a response. ..."
Now we know (or rather, assume) that Percy is Weatherby because we have seen Crouch call him that in the Quidditch WC, but how could he still be talking to Percy about his wife and child? We know they have been dead for quite some time, and Percy only started working in the Ministry very recently. By the time GoF takes place, it's assumed that Mrs Crouch and Barty Jr have been dead for at least 10 years, maybe more.
My theory is that Weatherby was Mr Crouch's assistant before Percy, and when he was replaced Barty simply didn't care to learn a new name (or maybe didn't even realized, if he was under Imperius). I always thought it was kinda lame that Percy's nickname was just a bastardized version of Weasley, this could somewhat explain why he's so adept to keep calling him that (and Percy never correcting him), specially if Weatherby was a very long term assistant and Crouch cared for him.
From our room. He ended up paying a ton extra, and was super excited that we could see the waterfall out our window. Unfortunately for him, HBP came out that day and me and my mom both bought our own copy (so we wouldn’t have to wait for the other to finish). Anyways, I was 9 or 10 at the time, and my dad has a picture of me and my mom sitting in bed, each reading our copy, with Niagara Falls out the window in the background.
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I would love Defence Against the Dark Arts and potions would interest me to no end. I would like to think that I would make a decent Auror, but that might be wishful thinking, otherwise I would be a potions maker. Making and researching special potions, I suppose if I find some useful ones I could sell them. Maybe see if I can make a few spells, there's no way every spell has been created, and help the Aurors, even if I'm not apart of them.
After reading the Harry Potter series multiple times (More than 5 I would say). Is it acceptable to read it again after a 4 year break? I could do with a little Magic.
So far, im re-reading the 7 book series and im at The Prisoner of Azkaban. Didnt expect myself to tear up on the bus today while reading that. Wrongly accused of a crime and expelled. Stayed the same after all the injustice. This man. This beautiful man. A figurative and literal Gentle Giant HAS GOTTEN A PROMOTION as the Care for Magical Creatures Professor.
It's as if he didnt even get expelled because hes working the job he wouldve had and loves so much if all went well in his school life at Hogwarts. And hes at HOGWARTS. Certainly the home of Rubeus now that hes lived there for so long and is welcomed by most. Thinking about it, he's as much an Uncle to Harry as Black. Im just so happy that Rowling gave this to a character, so fictional yet holding a place in all of the fans' hearts.
Yer really d'served it, Hagrid.
I'm in the middle of a series re-read and am remembering everything I misunderstood as a kid. For example, I completely misunderstood the scene in PoA where Professor McGonagall tells the students Trelawney "has predicted the death of one student a year since she arrived at this school". I though Trelawney was predicting the death of the same student each year. So when waiting for Goblet of Fire to be published I tried to predict who that student was and when they would die.
I also thought the Chamber of Secrets would have multiple secrets, not just one Basilisk. I remember getting mad at Harry for not exploring.
So what theories did you make simply by misreading the books?
A point many people complain about concerning the Harry Potter series is the way that House Slytherin and it’s members are portrayed in books and movies. They mainly are shown to be people with evil intentions and/or a bully attitude. I’m not talking about all Slytherins (as we know, people like Regulus or Slughorn are examples of Slytherins being different than that) but the generation that goes to school at the same time Harry and his friends are.
I think the thing many people seem not to take into consideration when complaining about the portrayal of Slytherins is that the generation of Slytherins Harry encounters in school is the generation that was raised by death eaters.
Look at Draco, a guy who as we learn was massively indoctrinated from a young age on. Same goes for Crabbe and Goyle and others. Of course not all of them were but if you imagine that each year has some people like this it starts to make sense. If many of your friends acted like that and you weren’t equipped with an incredibly strong moral compass at the age of 11 you would likely go along with it, just to fit in (the competitive house system in Hogwarts that creates an us vs. them feeling doesn’t help either).
Draco only starts to break out of this world his parents made him be part of when he is asked to kill a man at the age of 16. Nobody else had this kind of experience so they continue to go along with the ways they’ve been taught. Then, during the time of DH the new leadership of the school starts to encourage this behavior.
So the day comes, where they are given the choice: fight to protect the boy your parents and your friends despise, whose reappearance endangers you and your friends, or the side your parents and friends are at?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s still wrong to help Voldemort but I think all of this explains why Slytherins were displayed so negatively in the books and why no Slytherin stays to fight for Hogwarts. It’s not because all Slytherins are bad people but because this generation grew up plagued by indoctrination and toxicity and the system they lived in made it really hard to break out of it.
What do you think?
So a thought just crossed my head: We know how some families - the Weasleys - have no issues with Muggles and try to incorporate their things into their lives. The Statute of Secrecy makes it where you cannot reveal your magical abilities to Muggles - yet there are Half-Bloods (I'm not talking about Muggle-Borns in this instance though that's a different topic).
Are there Magical folk that bend the laws or break them to work in the Muggle world? Like a doctor putting someone to sleep and then using magic to perform an operation or SOMETHING? I'm sure there are ways they could make things work.
I know some will say "But why would magical folk want to work in the Muggle world". Well, some people are different okay. May they just WANT to for whatever reason? Live on the edge and risky lol.
Just a thought.
For example, I'll start with Dumbledore and Voldemort's duel at the end of OOTP. Obviously the visual aspect makes it a lot cooler to experience, but some of additions to the fight make it additionally spectacular, and actually seeing Fudge see Voldemort is nice.
Also, at the end of COS, it's much more satisfying to have Harry trick Lucius into directly giving Dobby the sock, as opposed to Dobby happening to catch the sock Lucius randomly threw aside
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