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11/27/2016 - Site Updates

By Fender, 2 months ago

SITE NEWS/POSTING RULES
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2) Keep discussion on topic to the post at hand.
3) Treat your fellow posters with respect.

== Beta
* Updated the submission/journal comment code. Streamlined the layout and rewrote the reply-to handler to be more user-friendly. Similar changes will be arriving on [classic] at a later time.
* Added clickable bbcode buttons when editing a comment on journals and submissions.
* Fixed an issue with Search not properly displaying on Mobile, and re-wrote part of the Search bar and search options to be a bit more efficient and take up less space.
* Lots of minor quality of life, consitency and placement fixes and improvements. There is still more to do, and we are working on cleaning up pages.
* Known Issue: Profile text does not display on userpages on mobile pages. This will be re-enabled in a day or two once a fix is implemented.

== General Updates (Classic, Beta)
* Minor page loading speed improvements across the board (optimized JS loading)
* Managing favorites page now honors the "per page" setting. Previously a value of 48 items per page was hardcoded.

== Gallery Layout (Classic, Beta)
* Replacing the gallery layout with a new one, where thumbnails are justified to browser window width.
* New thumbnail size options on the "Site Settings" page: 150, 200 and 250. Default size is 200.
* Reworked the "Toggle Descriptions" mode to display submission title and artist name on mouseover (gallery tile mode), and made it the default mode across the site. All pages that contain galleries also have the "Toggle Descriptions" button available to switch between the modes when necessary.
* Added selection control buttons (select, revert) to the "Manage Favorites" page.
* We acknowledge that thumbnails for non-image uploads are too small, and that the custom thumbnail functionality to submissions are broken. This update highlights the issue. Fixing custom thumbnails and allowing for their higher resolution is the highest priority fix on our list.

[update #1]
Gallery layout update:
* back to old Verdana font and old text-sizes for submission titles
* more spacing around the checkboxes to make them easier to click
* more thumbnail spacing
* frontpage now displays 3 rows of recent submissions
* various related CSS and JS optimizations

[update #2]
* submission titles and artist names are back to being on by default
* renamed the "Toggle Descriptions" button "Enable/Disable Titles"
* minor style tweaks to beta theme, browse page

1251 comments

User replies

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like it! Bigger, clearer images are super nice and were needed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah, much better than the previous update. ^_^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Penetrative devices.

You can't stop the rock.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

ayyyyy

#link Posted: 2 months ago

daddy what is this?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

IT'S TIME TO STOP

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Never.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

(dildo shaped) HAMMER TIME!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

But you sure can be boring and dull with it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b6/b63.....4e2caad995.jpg

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Uh... no thanks.. I don't need no imaginary sky-daddy thankyouverymuch.

#link Posted: a day ago

its kool but I wish we could further personalize our accounts like colors and backgrounds

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And nothing bad will ever happen ever again, I presume.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Except you're a giant gas filled flesh ball that belches flaming skulls of death that scream and eat people's faces! *gets the rocket launcher*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I can't even begin to express the error that is using the rocket launcher to take care of Lost Souls or their progenitor.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Fiiiiiine... *whips out a BFG9000... from somewhere...*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I would have gone for the Super Shotgun; it's a bit less messy and just as effective.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I was just going for the "I can't miss with this thing" solution :D

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Mobile is broken, BADLY.
Profiles don't show now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We disabled them temporarily due to an issue with formatting. We will be working on fixing and re-implementing them early this coming week.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So basicly all mobile users are SOL?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yes, this is FA development. "Oops, we messed up the commissions tab, lets turn it off while we fix it."

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Actually, in my opinion, closing it down while it's being fixed is a smart move. It prevents outside interference so the system isn't being used during the process of fixing it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Until we get the issue fixed. The main issue is that there's a long-standing "bug" with certain profiles on mobile pages for users who use certain formatting or ASCII art. We're working on getting it fixed, but ran out of time. Our plan is to work on the fix tomorrow, make changes, and update the site tomorrow (restoring the functionality).

We understand it's not the most ideal situation but it will be fixed soon.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

How about you just stop fixing what isn't broken?

Jesus Christ.

#link Posted: a week ago

YEE tis what they do. But I still can't see a preview of my pic that I'm uploading in beta dark theme (which USED TO work) until these faggots started throwing shit around because they think it's more "stylish"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And what of the broken search engine? When you search for something, it only selects "general" but adult and mature are deselected. I thought that was "supposedly going to be fixed"? Guess not.

Then again, I don't think any of the staff cares enough to reply, much less address our concerns?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can just view in desktop mode temporarily.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There is no desktop mode, otherwise I would

#link Posted: 2 months ago

not sure what os/browser you're using but in firefox for android there is a "request desktop site" option. Other browsers likely have similar options

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Chrome does that but still is same site.
FA doesnt really have a mobile-only version, just friendly version.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Try using the non-beta layout? Seems like this issue is only in beta.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Guys should really just push an official mobile app at this point.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

^ this

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Apple doesnt allow NSFW content in mobile apps. A working mobile-formatted version of the site is the right option.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Apple and Apple users' problem.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

20% of mobile users. But, the real issue is, FA has a hard time not boogering their site.. you think they can handle a mobile app?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I have to say you're right about FA mantaining both an app and a website.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Idk how true that is. Picarto has NSFW content within its app.

Edit: How could I forget about the tumblr app?!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Those 20% should get a real mobile device then that doesn't lock them down. Kappa.

No but really. I think that rule is more along the lines that you cannot have NSFW content embedded within the app (basically, no porn apps for porn sites like xHamster, and those that we already know).

Otherwise, Google Chrome and MobileSafari should be banned because you can use those to go on porn sites... what about Tumblr or Twitter or Instagram, they can all have NSFW images too, as can reddit!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There are some small workarounds in apples dev guidelines which could make an FA app a reality, it just requires extra work on the website side of things.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

DeviantArt also has its own app and they have "mature content" so I don't see it as impossible if FA could ever make a mobile app. But whatevz I guess. XD

#link Posted: a month ago

true. this is why i think apple is sh*t. so many disadvantages. either way, apple has some apps that android doesnt so whats the problem?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

No. Apple users will not be able to turn off SFW mode if there is a mobile app. (Apple doesnt permit adult material.) Also, updating and maintaining a mobile app is a lot of work, requires more developers, specialized toolchains, and has ongoing costs on the apple side. Not to mention maintaining encryption, creating a back-end API to support it, and keeping that API secure.

They really just need to develop a proper mobile-format for the website.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

They could just do a Google Play app then. (Androids) as they allow adult content.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Which leaves ~20% of mobile users (apple users, pipad, iphone...) without access to the site. They just need to fix mobile presentation of the site, for a large variety of reasons.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This. I just switched to android earlier this week and was a little grumpy considering there's no real FA app for androids, and the third party one that there was doesn't work.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is not a good option as the mobile market is pretty evenly split between iOS and Android. I'd say it's 49/49 with like 2% on WP if that many.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Then apple users can continue to use mobile and they can give Android users a proper app.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

But then what would be the point of an app in first place.
If apple users can continue using mobile, so can android users.

FA should have a working mobile version like every other website; if they can't even manage this, much less an app specifically targeted to under less of the user base.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

*shrug* Oh well? Not my problem you (as in Apple users) went with the expensive and stupid platform.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not an apple user. But really.. do you think FA has what it takes to maintain both a website and an android mobile app dev team? They make a change on the site about once every other month... and people usually dont like it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

that wouldn't leave them without access to the site unless they took down the web version

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I did start work on one with Material Design, etc... but seeing in the past how Dragoneer and the FA Staff treat community (free) contributions, I stopped soon after. Instead I'm now working on one for e621.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not only that, but FA has no API for an app to call. I started working on one for Android (because fuck Apple, lol), but realising the only real way to get results is to call as if you were a web-browser, the search function, and scrape the HTML of results (which would be slower than parsing a JSON API Endpoint), I stopped and am working on one for e621.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not really. What with the security breaches, spaghettified code and what-not. I'm surprised that they can even tie their shoes in the morning.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You are incorrect. Latest market share values as follows:

Android: 87.6%
iOS: 11.7%
Windows Phone: 0.4%
Other: 0.3%

Apple's mobile device market share has decreased from 18.6% to the current value in only two quarters (half a year). I haven't found q3 numbers yet, but it's possible they're not tabulated yet.

Either way, anyone looking at those numbers would know the smart bid is Android (and not to buy windows phones, but we all knew that already).

Always do your research. :)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like how you quote numbers without any source backing you up. What are these numbers? American markets? World wide?
Can't really chastise people for not doing their research when you don't follow through yourself ;)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

My apologies, those numbers came from the IDC or International Data Corporation's report on the Q2 worldwide smartphone market share according to their Worldwide Quarterly Mobile Phone Tracker. You can find the detailed information I quoted here: https://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartp.....rket-share.jsp

You can also purchase more detailed information from them. It's also the first hit when googling 'mobile device market share 2016' so it's not exactly buried or anything. :)

#link Posted: a month ago

thats what i said about half of the apps on ios that android doesnt have.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Actually i really like browsing via WEB and NOT APP ...
exactly the same with DA. I HATE THE APP!! So i prefer going to the webpage.
Exactly with FA i think... it just works fine.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

@ Staff Alot of us further down are wondering if there is any way you could all restore the layout to how it was before and make the new one an option to be selected or just don't attach it to the Classic site which is meant to stay classic.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

THIS

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I just sent a ticket to staff. I recomend you do as well and encourage others to do it too.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ive never had to do it before so I don't actually know how...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

this

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Jumping on this ship as a classic as long as I can use it artist.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I agree with that most of the layout changes stay to the beta layout and not affect price on classic because most people really hate having to relearn something Over and Over and Over and Over and Over again

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Awesome! :D

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well great, now I cant keep track of where I am on a page of images.

Next step: lets just flow everything together so when your trying to browse through someones gallery and your browser has a problem you gotta start over.

Its the ephemeral web now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

White is all the colors together, right?

Just make the site a blank screen.
all the pictures piled atop eachother at the same time!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

just like some other (newer) sites. having them be different sizes just looks so jumbled and tracking is more difficult. (large icons might attract more attention, leading to missing some of the smaller ones as well)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ohhhhh no.

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

woh i like!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Sounds awesome

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Looks nice

#link Posted: 2 months ago

this update shocked me i like it tho

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Theres a toggle descriptions button somewhere.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

idk, are titles really that important? I like the clean look.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Some of us post content that many people find extremely disturbing. I've already had people complain about having to see it when FA removed custom thumbnails... Now the content will be even more in their face and I can't even warn them in the submission title for what little good that did.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Just hit the "Toggle Descriptions" button and it ought to be back to normal.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

its not completely back to wahat it is but it still brings the titles back.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This simple tip made things much better for me, thank you!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hmm... interesting. :o

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Will we get the top banner back? I don't like the off placing of everything, and it makes the entire site seem too dark and boring.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Um, I'm set to classic, and yet I'm still seeing this update. I'm not sure if that's intentional or not. Will we be able to set it back to the way it used to be in the future?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thumbnails were updated for both Beta and Classic. At this time, there is no way to revert it to the previous style. We will be making continual fixes and improvements to the layout over time.

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Okay, I don't like this.

I'm a PC user, not a mobile user. The old layout worked just fine for me, before, and now the images are just all over the place.

Plus, you can't see the artist's name right away, now. What I liked was to see the name of the artist, first, as I was looking over the submission, then I'd check out their work. Since a lot of artists have a lot of similar styles, it's going to be more awkward and cumbersome having to hover over each bloated thumbnail to see if a random submission update is from one of your most favorite artists, just to have the name slide down.

Maybe it's more ergonomic for mobile users, but for people on PCs or laptops, it's too in your face with the visual overload.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Worse on mobile tbh. Cause you don't even have a cursor to hover over the image for the artists name to pop down. You have to actually open the image. They've added an extra step to viewing content basically. Rather annoying.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

In classic view it was difficult to select items in new submissions. In the this new one it is horrible.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I mean in mobile.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

click the button that says "toggle descriptions" and the titles and artists will come back underneath the thumbnails.

edit: I mistakenly thought this was an option for the main page, but alas, I was wrong. :(
(Only available for the updates/control panel page)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Honestly, do you guys test stuff out and get feedback before committing these changes to live? That's what Beta is for. Stop committing things to live before you get proper feedback! It looks nice in some ways, but functionally speaking it's kinda annoying to use and feels a bit more clunky.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Now just add a mass selection to the "WATCHED" section. That'd be nice.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

OMG! WIGGLE TREE! QwQ

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i love the look of the gallery

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Will there be an option to use to the old one? I don't like this new one much.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Me either, I want the old stuff as an option.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same, I preferred the old layout.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Gonna add my name to the pile of people who would like a "Legacy" option.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Adding my name as well. Really not fond of this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's not for me I want to request an option to use the old layout.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

adding my name in to, hate it

#link Posted: 2 months ago

PLEASE put it back. I can't stand this

#link Posted: 2 months ago

count another name for legacy ;-;

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed. Didn't ask for it, don't like it, don't want it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've never asked for this

+1

#link Posted: 2 months ago

me too +1

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hate it, and would prefer the way it always has been. Or at least a button to make it the way it was before.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same here. [And pay the username no mind, I was "young and naive" when it was made...]

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Plus one to this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And another one for legacy, please.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Add me to the list as well. This update is shit.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same. preffer the old gallery. Is not that I don't like it, but it just doesn't look as good

#link Posted: 2 months ago

legacy, please please please

total agreement, this doesn't look that great, unfortunately. too cluttered and... everywhere.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Jumpin' in. I like my grids. New layout is a mess.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Grids are good. *nodnods* I don't absolutely dislike the new, but it's not the easiest for browsing a gallery, to me, anyway. It also makes submissions look jumbly, to me.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

another for old layout

#link Posted: 2 months ago

me too.

Toggle descriptions thankfully works all around, there are a million reasons to have it on, but it still throws images all over the place like a game of tetris instead of the old method of organizing them.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+1 from me too, the new gallery layout just looks too cluttered and confusing :P so having a option to chose would be very appreciated.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+1 from me. Dont know if FA sees this chain as a petition, don't know if they care, but seriously, this bubbly and bloated "update" is a downgrade of information and hurts the UI and user experience. This isnt a candy store, this is FA where we want to be able to see what we are looking for, not be blinded by colors and objects.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Add me to this list too.
I don't know what they were thinking making this update.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Just tried to go thru the list of submissions... what a mess.
Can't select everything and just deselect the ones I wanna keep to look at later because info covers a big part of the image. I'm afraid of clicking anywhere but the tiny select box, and that's difficult even with a PC and really nice trackball.

Much as I hate sounding like a grumpy old guy complaining about progress and kids these days and get off my lawn, I have to say, I'd like kids these days to get this format off my lawn.

Keep it clean, keep it simple, and DON'T FIX WHAT'S NOT BROKEN!

Previous version seemed to be fine on mobile for me.
...'cept for the Goggle ads; those were irritating and dysfunctionate the first time they popped up.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

it is all about fixing what isn't broken and ignoring the things at either are or what people have been begging to have for years.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm also on the Old Look list. Everythings all jumbled together into a big mess. Like the server just barfed a gallery all over my monitor.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Its too disorganized the old one was better, it's to chaotic on the eyes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

They shouldn't just force new UI's without giving an option for lagacy/old view.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Or at least without making sure it actually works.....

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

I would love an old version back, this hurts my eyes looking at, nothing is organized at all and it's just such a clutter

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yes, I adore the old layout still~ The new one is kind of all smashed together (I don't like weasyl much for this reason)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This ^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This. FA has made a mess of it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

To those that want the old version, go here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/21841806/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same here I had to set my FA page to 150% thumbnail size then on google chrome adjust the page
size so shit isn't everywhere. It's too big and complicated please add a CLASSIC option to the damn CLASSIC
settings.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i wouldn't mind seeing the back and forth buttons returning in the main gallery

#link Posted: 2 months ago

not sure if i like this in general yet, but i know that i don't like not being able to see the beginning of the description anymore. why bother calling it 'toggle description' if it isn't the description that you see? maybe i'll like it better once it's been a while and it (presumably) loads faster, though.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The button that had like the submission information description thing i.e. to describe the art that pops up after clicking the little icon, right? If so, totally this ^
Super annoyed that this hasn't been working in beta yet (still works in classic) at all. It was helpful if the thumbnail wasn't enough. The button is there, makes a little "?" cursor over hover, yet does nothing. Gahh it is a tease...
Then again it seems unnecessary changes are a priority over fixes so it probably will just disappear entirely instead of being fixed

#link Posted: 2 months ago

dunno if you're talking about the beta or the classic, but (on classic site) it used to show up when i hovered over the image- the title, person who made it, and the first few lines of the description. i liked it because a lot of times it could answer the question of 'do i really want to click this?' if i couldn't figure out what was going on based on the thumbnail alone.

and lmao, it seems like all fa wants to do lately is copy other art sites, which is ironic, given that many of their users are here because they can't stand the layout of other sites.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Then yeah that's what I meant.
Well on classic I can't recall it working for hovering for me, you had to click the little icon in the bottom right corner, and still works/still have to in classic. In beta they kept the button but it doesn't do anything. Which is super frustrating... because, like you say, it answers that question, 'cuz either the thumbnail isn't clear enough, is a crop, or just says "ART"/"ANIMATION"/"STORY"/etc. in text

#link Posted: 2 months ago

maybe it was just a weird side-effect of one of the few plug-ins i have, then :3 though, looking at it, i was talking about the front page- i don't remember if i bothered with hovering over them if i was already in someone's gallery/scraps. and the front page only shows the title and artist on hover now, with no description at all.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

for the front page for me submissions, the button, and the different types of info are displayed the same as gallery/scraps, with how/what i said for classic and for beta for the buttons-for-detail-descriptions
also yeah I have no plugins

#link Posted: 2 months ago

crap it broke the fa previewer extension. :T

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We changed a lot of the underlying functionality of thumbnails, comments and some other page layouts. The add-on's author should be able to fix things fairly easily.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

hopefully. i'm just not sure if the person that made it is still updating it since the last one was in 2013.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I was about to point out the same thing, that I wasn't sure if the dev was still around to fix it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Edit: Turns out I'm talking about a different extension than these folks, but this code essentially made FA Extender unsuable too.

We'll see... Right now the way the extension gathers the list of images is via jquery and looking for a href=/view/, etc

With the new update, there are two links for each image, one for the actual image and one for the mouse over caption. There are some immediate hack ways to fix the extension I can think of and may try it myself, but hopefully the original coder will save me from myself. That extension is the only thing that makes the site usable IMO so if that gallery code is going to stay, I'll have to figure something out... :(
*((

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can use Imagus extension to view images on hover. As a bonus, it works for dozens of other sites as well.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thank you!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i'll look into it. thanks!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ahh yes! A bit better!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Er I can't remove new submisions from my watchers. Can we put the check mark selections back underneath the new submissions for mobile since I can remove them now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

nvm there we go but shouldn't the descriptions be on by default not off? Sounds a bit backwards...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

If you click the right hand corner of each thumbnail in the submissions it -should- select it rather than open it... at least on my phone it does! Pain in the ass, but it works I guess.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I just clicked 'toggle description' and everything went back normal so no biggie here.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ah, good to know! :3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why does every link, internal and external, have an "@" at the end of them????

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We're working on making changes to how links are viewed, and wanted to make links in user-created stand out more. If you are seeing an "@" try refreshing the page. It should load a custom-font which displays a unique icon.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Shows no font change and still has the @ at the end of each link.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It shows on desktop too
https://gyazo.com/aeedabb837e6d2012c36bf43f48154a8

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm seeing it too despite hard refresh and all. It's really unsightly, IMO.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same thing happening on all of my links. I thought the underline was plenty for links to stand out but the "@" is really unsightly and refreshing didn't fix the issue.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why? If a person wants it to stand out they can add symbol themselves. The symbol is awful and clutters link-heavy places. The underline was fine. Stop 'fixing' things no one wants fixed.

#link Posted: 17 days ago

https://s24.postimg.org/iqvo1m277/Scroll_Bars.jpg

Scroll bars under the comments/journals, is this a bug or you guys changing stuff again?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Does fixing custom thumbnails include fixing thumbnails for animated .gif submissions? Because that needs to be fixed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

^THIS

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeesh, things feel a little cramped in the gallery view at the momentwith the justified layout, but will see how I get used to it..!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Perhaps a little extra spacing between submissions in a future revision? With the dropshadow there isn't much space between icons, even an extra 10px would do wonders!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I have to agree with you on this! It is Way to crowded and it makes it hard for me as I keep loosing my place when looking hough the submissions.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Loving the new thumbnail layout

#link Posted: 2 months ago

sAME 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🔥💯💯

#link Posted: 2 months ago

not a huge fan of the thumbnails, it's a more confusing having them all squished together

$fractalis$

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed..... a simple grid layout was most logical... this....smells of chaos

#link Posted: 2 months ago

it smells of DA. They did the same thing a while back. I hated it then and I hate it even more now

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same, it also ate up a notably larger mount of bandwidth despite their claim that this would use less.

When I confronted them on how they should offer an option to use the old layout, they just gave some BS excuse.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

and I'm sure history will repeat itself here too.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hope not... that's the kind of BS that made me leave DA permanently. Crappy site.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I hope not either, but how often do the admins actually take user feedback into consideration when doing anything?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

With my history as a "site migrating traveler," I'm willing to bet they'd rather use User Feedback to "fuel their fires" for their "Marshmallows of I don't care! LOL~"

In other words, "No, They didn't care then and they will never care." :3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It makes it harder to view and looks far more messy then the old layout.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

oh wow that really startled me o.o I'm reading that mobile is broken, but what if we mainly use mobile? will this problem be fixed soon?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I hot told a WEEK

#link Posted: 2 months ago

that's not going to work for a lot of people x.x
oh boy...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

inbox submissions are broken on desktop version, the check boxes are gone so you have to nuke your inbox to clear submissions

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You have two options:
* Click the "Toggle Descriptions" button to make the thumbnails show the description and the checkbox below the image (like it was before)
* When on a desktop computer, hovering the thumbnail will show the checkbox to the right side of the title.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also vote toward old way admin comments look.
Took my a while to even know youre an admin lol

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to set "Toggle descriptions" as a permanent option? At this rate, i have to click on it every time i open submissions.

Dunno about other people, but personally im not a fan of trying to guess the artist and title of every submission, like its some kind of trivia...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It should be a permanent setting. If it doesn't work for you for some reason, try clearing your browser's Cookies (this will log you out, it's normal).

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Where is this setting under?
I can't find it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"Toggle descriptions" button is present on every page that also contains a gallery, and it's state should be saved. As in, if you have it to show descriptions under thumbnails, all other pages should be like that by default.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

OMFG MUCH BETTER
Deff needs to be added as an "EDIT:" To this journal for others that need that back
(Also have hit Cancel Comment like 3 times now just typing this ;3;)

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

How about not forcing peoples' settings to change like this? I HATE how you guys thought it would be a 'good idea' to just up and change stuff, making the site layout look like unorganized crap.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

THIS

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"I HATE how you guys thought it would be a 'good idea' to just up and change stuff"

Let me just laugh for a bit.
Hahahahahahahahaha

Not an ounce of logical reasoning, just pure hatred for change.
Oh, how funny humans are, it's unbelievable.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Now can I have the old gallery view back, and the old font? The new font is atrocious and unreadable and I hate how the gallery view shows almost none of the description even with them turned on.
PLEASE have an option for the older view, it wasn't broken and didn't need to be "fixed"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It was definitely easier on the eyes before. I have trouble viewing this new thing.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Change just for the sake of change is never good.

And in this case, you can clearly see a LOT of people hate this garbled mess.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

If it relies on cookies, it's NOT a permanent setting. It's as ephemeral as the cookies themselves are, so it has to be toggled again on every new browser, device, cookie update, etc. etc. etc. This is extremely annoying, especially for anyone who doesn't allow persistent cookies in the first place (and I'm sure that's more than a few people).

I would greatly, greatly prefer to see this as an ACTUAL permanent setting, by having it server-side in the user's account settings. On the Site Settings page for example in the "Content related" section. It'd be very appropriate there.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Don't act like he/she's the only person who's against the changes. Hardly anyone likes it, as you can clearly see just by scrolling down.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hey, I'm not saying it's perfect or even good, just pointing -that- out. *quickly eyes previous comment*
Also is it just me or is the order of comments kinda fucked?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Of course, how am I acting that way? I'm just pointing out the pure, reasonless/mindless hatred.
Also, keep forgetting about the vast majority of the site's users who didn't comment here or even everyone else who commented good things you'll have really accurate points. :)

Also, as a programmer, I know that things will never be perfect or even remotely liked by everyone from the get-go. They already started fixing bugs and especially fixing what caused many of the complaints.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

He/she said it was disorganized, so it wasn't 'reasonless' or 'mindless'. He/she had a perfect valid reason to open his/her mouth, even if it was a little rude. Also, yeah. There are people who like the layout, but the thing is, the majority doesn't.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm sorry, but saying it's "unorganized crap" doesn't give any insight on how or why it's bad (other than because it's different, which ISN'T a good reason) or how to make it better. This is only opinion and doesn't relay any useful any information other than "I hate it". Because you also have reasons for not liking it, doesn't make other's way to present a similar "reason" any less ridiculous.
And I litterally just said you can't say the majority doesn't like it when there is NO WAY for you to know about the general public's idea of it. It just makes you come off as pretentious! You can't present points like it's truth when they're based on assumptions.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The 'general public idea'? Really? So, what you're saying is, we can't rely on the voice of the people who bothered to leave a comment here, but the unknown opinions of those who didn't? What? Some people expressed their opinion here, and for the most part, it is negative. How are these voices invalid because there's people out there who didn't leave a comment? And how do you know those people are just fine with the changes? You're relying on silence, and hoping that silence is something positive. How is anyone going to know if people like or dislike these changes if they don't speak up? So what if not every single furry left a comment when they read this? Does that mean they like/are okay with the changes? Not necessarily. And you say I'm basing points off of assumptions.

It's unorganized. That's how it's bad. Unorganized is not a synonym for 'I hate it'. It's an actual opinion. Again, ti's a tad rude, but it's an opinion that isn't very far fetched, and therefore is valid. What does he/she have to do? Type ten paragraphs about how they find the new layout absolutely revolting? If something is unorganized, it's only common sense to make it organized. I'm sure everyone here is intelligent enough to figure that out themselves, especially the people working on this site.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said :
- That the few people who spoke up's opinions are invalid
- That the silent majority has any specific opinion on it, good or bad.
- That the fact that someone who read but didn't comment meant they liked the change.

Unlike you, I don't pretend to know what the majority likes or wants.

This is what I said:
- You can NOT assume a majority's likes, dislikes or opinion on a very small vocal minority.

You assume that since I'm opposing you, I am automatically siding with the change.
I was originally pretty perplexed, because it had both good and bad effects on usage, which one of the bad effects being the very small tick button for deletion was quickly fixed, and many of the said bugs were fixed, like the selection not saving when going in and out of submissions.

It has been proven many, many times that people speak up more often when something has a bad effect on them than when it has a good effect, and that is why you simply cannot base a majority's opinion of it on the comments present in the place where people speak up about the change, because it will almost always be more bad than good unless it is unanimously acclaimed.

Finally, the expression "unorganized" mean very different things for everyone. Saying it is unorganized doesn't say HOW it is unorganized or WHAT makes it unorganized. As for me, I find it slightly more organized, as it takes a lot less space than it used to, making it more.. "tidy". And don't tell me you know how "unorganized" he is talking about, because you don't; as he hasn't pointed it out.

If you misrepresent my points, assume or pretend again, I am going to stop replying.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"It has been proven many, many times that people speak up more often when something has a bad effect on them than when it has a good effect, and that is why you simply cannot base a majority's opinion of it on the comments present in the place where people speak up about the change, because it will almost always be more bad than good unless it is unanimously acclaimed."

Dude. If something is bad, people will complain. If something is good, people will praise/complement. Your logic in this is that people are more likely to leave bad comments here when they see something they don't like, just as almost anywhere else. If many people say that they don't like something, then it's likely to assume that not many people like it at all.

How are you going to fix your mistakes without the proper voice of the people to guide you? It doesn't always have to be sugarcoated to be valid or true. It doesn't always have to be positive or neutral to be valid and true. If anything, the people who didn't speak up are invalid, because we don't know their opinions. We don't know if they like it. We don't know if they hate it, but that doesn't give you the privilege to use that as a factor to oppose me, because it's not in your favor, nor is it in mine.

So what if it's a storm of hate all around? Does that mean you should just ignore it? Does that mean it is not valid? You are in so much denial, and it hurts. Hate isn't always senseless. Some people hate for reasons. Some hate just because. You have to realize which applies to what situation.

Think of it like this: You walk into a library that was just built the other day. Things are still being set up/modified. You notice that a large majority of people seem to be discomforted with the set up of the library. You notice a comment box where you can write little reviews down on paper, and put it in the box. Those reviews are the people who spoke up. Not everybody took the time out of their lives to use the comment box, though.

Now, think this: You are the owner of the library, and you are relying on people to use your comment box for criticism and to know if people like what they see. You check the box sooner or later, and see that it's mostly negative comments. What does that tell you? That the library needs some work. Sure, not everybody said something, but you can't use that to shield yourself from the hate you received, or say "Well, people who like stuff don't normally say they do, so there's a chance people like it after all! Yay!~ ^.^" No. The world doesn't work that way.

People praise things all the time. People hate things all the time. You can't rely on the probability of which happens more, then pick and choose what is valid, and what is not. The entirely of my point here is two things: One, that you need to rely on the information given to you as a priority, rather than the unknown opinions of those who didn't give any information at all. And two: Identify. whether or not hate is just mindless babble, or the truth being thrown at you, in the form of negative sentences. Don't allow negativity to be an illusion of truth.

So he wasn't descriptive about how it's unorganized? Imagine your school locker all cluttered up. If someone called it 'disorganized', would you go on about your merry way because they didn't write an essay about HOW it's unorganized? People have eyes, bro. They can clearly see the faults through their sense of sight. You know what's funny? How you claim that I'm misrepresenting your points, but you also say I'm pretending to know what the majority of people want out of FurAffinity. You misrepresent my point, by claiming that I'm playing pretend. You assume I believe that I know what people like and want, and you pretend that if there's a majority of hate for something, then it's just mindless, invalid babble, because of the chances of it being hate or praise is imbalanced most of the time, like if something's not entirely positive, then it's not worth acknowledging.

I apologize if I was extremely repetitive, but I needed to get my true point across.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

ahhh thank you!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a reason that https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fi.....ddon/checkfox/ doesn't see the checkboxes in the submission inbox anymore even in the old-styule view with the titles/checkboxes below the pictures? I checked that it still works fine on other sites, it even works fine in the journals inbox, it just doesn't work right in the submission inbox anymore. Anything at all I can do to fix that? I'd even settle for a greasemonkey script that has the browser on my end fix whatever's broken to make it work again...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Would it be too much to ask to add a user selection as to whether to use the old or new thumbnail system? The new system makes pages look way too crowded, as images are scrunched together with hardly any space separating them. Makes it hard to see individual images, and much easier to miss stuff.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That and it's less uniform. If I wanted that kind of layout, I'd just google or bing something, or even go on DA. Always liked FA layouts because they were easy to follow and uniform.

If you toggle descriptions, it adds a little space, but otherwise, looks like shit imho.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

THIS SO MUCH

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This. I miss my uniform thumbnails. If I wanted this crowded shit, I'd go use Weasyl.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This, so much.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What you say. Weasyl did the same thing and it drove a lot of people away. It just looks a mess now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

THIS

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hate the Thumbnails it looks horrible.

Squished together, to big and no names.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can get names hovering over the submission. Or, if you prefer a design similar to the old style, you can toggle descriptions to get submission titles and artist names under the icon.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah saw that, still way to close together, i loved them the way they were i hate that modern "Let's squish everything as close together as possible" trend :(

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That's not really similar to the old style, since it still jumbles everything together. It's better, though.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

but it doesn't fix the gallery. I tried it

#link Posted: 2 months ago

No one wants a 'design similar to the old style'. Give us back the OLD STYLE, not this unorganized crap.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This. New thumbnails are garbage.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Looks awful in mobile :/ , I honestly prefer the other one, was so much better , than the way it looks know *sigh*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I can't even see my info in my profile at all , did this just disappoer and have ti write and do the stuff all over again :/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

is not bad on the pc looks pretty cool ,but in the phone it just sucks

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Does your profile contain ascii art? They disabled all profiles containing that on mobile due to formatting issues. From what I understand it's supposed to be fixed in about a week.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

No it didn't contain ascii art it was just all my info in the front page , there's nothing on my profile *info* if I'm in mobile *but on PC the info is there*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

All I know is they disabled certain profile pages in mobile.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh ok, but yeah I hope they fix it soon , thanks for letting me know that tho 😏

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Love it! I can see things a lot clearer and galleries look a lot more appealing!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nice update! ^_^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That really scared me, but thanks for the update I'm going to check things out and write back if I find issues!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Neato! Now I don't have to stare at images in their thumbnail form!
Still, just makes one wonder when will there be a blacklist on kinks since I don't want to see scat or odd kink artworks all over the frontpage.
But that's just me.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Trust me when I say it's not just you.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh yeah, I know and gotten ALOT of feed back from other members when I bring up this topic in the past site updates. Eh, if it took years to get folders. . .I guess we can wait another number years for a list to come up but only time will tell, no?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Please, please, please! My search string has gotten to nearly a page long, IN 9 POINT FONT. We need robust tags, and for those putz artists who can't be bothered, an Block Submissions feature. Even FBInkBunny has it. :|

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Something at least basic since, just wait when the trolls come in and start posting their wonderful " real life photos of questionable things"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

After having my list in writing, I find that 60-70% of it is now just names I'd rather never interact with again, ever. I'd relent a bit on asking for a decent tag/filter system if I could just ban seeing what the major offenders are putting up.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed! I used to use uBlock to block thumbnails from dodgy artists because their names were in the URL. Now that the thumbnails have no indication of whose art they are, I have to keep adding filters to my search bookmark, which is getting pretty epic.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Been wanting a Blacklist for the longest time myself, it is not just you. Plenty of people want it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Blacklists would be a godsend, and I see it from the other side of the coin. There's been a lot of incidents in the past where I've had people tell me to off myself and whatnot for being into what I'm into. I can't just tell them to blacklist it like I can on other gallery sites.

But thank you, for being tolerant of people like me who are a little more out there in what we like, hah.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

a keyword blacklist would be amazing. even with sfw mode constantly on, i frequently see all kinds of crap that i find incredibly distasteful, even if it isn't breaking the t.o.s.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agree, I mean sure one can say the statement " Then don't look at it " One should have something like this when it comes to an artsite and one that is well over 10 years old.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

But that would alsp require people yo properly tag their stuff, and most is not

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I think part of the reason that hasn't been done yet is because not every thing that gets uploaded is tagged properly, so until a tag system is forced at least up to a certain number of minimum tags, it's kind of hard to do a blacklist. A lot of stuff would get through.

And then people would start complaining all over again.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Would rather have folder options in my favorites, but making it more difficult to keep up with submissions is cool too.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Jesus I thought the page fucked up with everything being bigger lol

I do like how it makes seeing thumbnails easier but it looks too cluttered

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Have you noticed that the "featured journal" no longer works?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also for Mobile, images in gallery / submissions / browse are horrible squished together now vs old way of single scroll.
Will this be fixed as well?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like it but it's not really good for mobile, if you can add some sort of mobile compatability that would be wonderful~

#link Posted: a month ago

Beta theme.. Its decent on your browser if you use Puffin browser

Pufin browser also makes it easy to tap things because you vcan enable a mouse pad (like on a laptop) and get a onscreen cursor.. Also you can veiw flash animations

#link Posted: 2 months ago

screams

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Your icon is really adorable.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

xD thank you, they were made by teaparties

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So when do you plan to fix the thumbnails?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

thanks for update, really diggin the new thumbnail layout! although i'll definitely second what a couple other people said that it'd be nice to see the submission titles and artist name under the submissions. while we're on the subject of thumbnails, do you guys have any plan to improve the way thumbnails for animated submissions display? i know a lotta folks(myself included) would find that mega helpful!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

oooh scratch that first thing, i didn't realize you could see those things when you hover the thumbnails. neat!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Jesus Christ, can we have an option to turn back the submission boxes and gallery to the old format? It's a sensory overload of different file-types and dimensions fighting over the space in my gallery/scraps as well as making it an inconvenience to scan through submissions for the title and author/artist.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Bra

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Panties.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+Lynx

But yeah... my eyes are hurting of a single page... let stand a gallery... my inbox will be my own personal hell if this ain't changed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Bulge

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+...4? I liked the old layout. And while other people might like this one, I.. kind of hate it. It's like a collage of images with no information on the author/title/anything. An option to select the old layout would be great, cuz this one, to me, looks incredibly unappealing.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Example of what I'm talking about: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme.....76/unknown.png (Some NSFW stuff in the middle, nothing extreme.)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is unfortunately the best that could be done with currently available thumbnails for non-image submissions, which are small. For this reason fixing custom thumbnails and allowing higher resolution for them to be uploaded is the highest priority for us.
For the time being, the closest you can get to how the old gallery layout looked is to click the 'Toggle Descriptions' button.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Odd. I would think, as an art hosting website, your highest priority would be making it very clear, WHO did the art, not cramming everything together and making it easier to miss submissions.
The 'toggle description' thing works somewhat, but it's still a bigger PiTA when it shouldn't be.

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#link Posted: a month ago

Question, how many petition signatures would the community need to reinstate Reminder posts?

Myself and A LOT of other artists and folk I know think this rule is quite ridiculous, especially when there are so many artists on here who do this for a living and we arn't even allowed to advertise our sales.

I think there should be a rule about reminders so they arn't spammed out but not taken away completely.

Thankyou.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That doesn't even looks so horrible... now have
https://s14.postimg.org/t2o0phrv5/Naamloos.jpg

Yup... complete and utterly sensory overload detected, getting a headache even looking over it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Arg! My eyes!

Serious though...ew. I'd love a settings option to revert back

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can toggle on descriptions if you need the breakup/text in there.

I kinda really like the collage look personally. Makes me focus more on the art and less on what it's titled or who drew it at glance.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+++

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed. So cluttered now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can you guys get it so if you some how clicked on the artists name/image that if you hit the back button to get back to the submittion page that everything you have checked is still checked like the last setup?

Having so much massed into a little bar annoying

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

that was a great feature when you accidentally clicked an image instead of the checkbox, especially on mobile. not its even harder to click the checkbox. I like keeping my new submissions list curated as a sort of private favorites gallery.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Will the issue on beta involving the full view of an image be addressed soon? ♥

http://puu.sh/swFX5/0cb5bee4a2.jpg

It's still set to where the ads eat partial image.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We are aware of the bug, but have been unable to replicate it on our side. If you have any information on how to replicate it please send us a ticket (under "User Interface") with the information. We'll look into it and get it fixed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I have an idea why it may be doing this. So I will send a ticket that way. ♥

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That Is Amazing The Gallery Layout Is So Cool!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Could you please stop making dark beta lighter and lighter? Do it idk, as alternative theme please?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+1
I agree, I went Beta for the Darkest Option

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I agree too. :/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Too dark ended up hurting my eyes, though. I think this color set is rather nice and easy.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Profile text is missing on Beta on mobile

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Interesting...it'll take a while to get used to this though...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Feeling so-so about the changes. Name changes and account deletion are still something a lot of people are looking for.

Also, please fix mobile. Even before the changes, hardly anything worked.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also another glitch for Mobile:
The Cancel Comment overlaps the Post Comment button.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also when you send notes too on mobile.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

New thumbnails makes the pages... a bit cramp, regardless on size...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Another issue: The hotzone for the checkmark in notifications has somehow managed to get even smaller. But I suppose usability is someone else's problem.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can you open up a ticket under User Interface with a screenshot and the information? We'll take a look at get it checked out.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Any word on what caused the brief outages earlier this week? *^^*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I noticed the lack of that in this Update lol

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The micro-outages some users experienced were caused by an issue with our host. Our uplink connection had some sporadic issues, and we have a ticket open with the host to investigate them further.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Okay, that's good. Was worried it was another attack. *^^*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The main submissions page and people's galleries now look awful. Everything is smushed super close together with no information showing unless you hover your mouse over the image.

Very cluttered and hard to see anything as an individual. Is there any way we can revert this? I have had a look and cannot find an obvious way to get it back to normal

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can someone tell me if the shitty side bar is gone in the beta layout yet?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Do you have uBlock Origin installed? I don't see any side bar, but really, it's bad enough the search engine is still broken and doesn't apply the rating tags.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ack! Please don't do that to the images! I hated when they changed that on DA.
Please tell me there is a way to change the Gallery layout back to the way it was

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Too many updates is part of why I left DA in the first place. If FA is going to update it should at least be a productive one.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

of course, how often does FA update something for the better?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Still no unblock

#link Posted: 2 months ago

ayyyyy

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can we get a site or user setting to change the gallery layout back to how it was?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+10

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+11

#link Posted: 2 months ago

this

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This, the new style is awful. I hate not seeing the names of the submissions until I mouse over them, and the "recent uploads" thing is a pain in the ass to check/uncheck or click to open. PLEASE have an option for the older, better style.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

me too

#link Posted: 2 months ago

+14

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nooo please dont update it

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Anyway to change the font back? the old one is a lot more readable to be honest.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

the bigger thumbails and text are nice but everyhtings so close together my dyslexic ass cant make sense of a damn thing

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oooooh the images in the submission feed and gallery look so nice now. Less empty space for clearer images is +100 brownie points

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Mmm, I liked the old Gallery and submissions to be honest. This feels way too much 'Wall of images' without having the submitter's name and titles.

Edit: Well I can get those back with toggle descriptions, guess I will have to see how it feels. The images still feel 'crowded' to me.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Toggle button to turn off titles is useless

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The larger thumbnail option is very welcome.
I just hope that when custom thumbnails are fixed, it's optional whether to see them or an uncropped thumbnail of all images.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Minor typo: You misspelled "consistency."

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks for the update! :D Looks awesome!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Awful and cluttered and hurts my eyes. (I have glasses)
I'll get used to it suppose...

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Black list Option please

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Seconded.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It would be great if you could choose to go back to the old thumbnail layout. I really don't like the new layout, it's too chaotic and smashed together, really not a fan.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Im not a big fan of these 'metro' style icon tiling, i like to look through pages of art quick by gridding it

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Will I have to re-upload all of the custom thumbnails for my submissions when it's all fixed?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wouldn't know until it's fixed, but likely. New custom thumbnails will allow for higher resolutions, so they could be properly displayed with large thumbnail sizes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thank god I future proofed when making thumbnails and made them 400px^2

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I appreciate the speedy reply. Are there currently any plans to make this layout optional in the future? I find it easier to browse when the pages are more uniform.

#link Posted: 17 days ago

https://s24.postimg.org/iqvo1m277/Scroll_Bars.jpg

Scroll bars under the comments/journals, is this a bug or you guys changing stuff again?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Personally I dig the new thumbnails!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Did the preview image go away when uploading pictures? I ended up posting a picture that went from transparent to black and I didn't know until it was posted, because there was no longer a preview.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can either update the sourcefile again or for future reference, Backgroundless images appear
on a canvas size 1280x1280 pixels or smaller without having to do the above. But yeah, the preview
has been gone for a while now. I really miss it. Sometimes I forget what I'm uploading.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I actually had resized it to 1280x720 (or whatever that picture was, I know the larger dimension can't exceed 1280px). That's why it irritated me that the preview was gone, I was expecting it to work! X3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ohh I like the update!

Just hoping soon there is a way to change usernames down the road so people don't have to make new accounts.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not liking this update at all. Why is the font for everything so thin?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm also wondering this myself.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't have the best eyesight and trying to read this super thin font is a pain.
I knew when FA kept breaking the other day that they were fixing/breaking something else.
I wish they would just do this on Beta and leave classic alone.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like the change to the gallery display! My crap never looked so dynamic! :3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I think some more padding on the thumbnails to give the galleries and browsing some breathing room would be a big help. It feels very claustrophobic currently.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also, there's kind of a problem with the sizes on the thumbnails. all the people with wide aspect ratios are pushing other submissions off the front page and browse, and they make other images super tiny. It pretty much makes it so only wide images are seen and others are not and I feel like this will be abused.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I share this concern. It unbalances screen realestate, giving images with a wide aspect ratio more screenspace, and thus more exposure.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Annoyed that it broke the filter I was using. When will there be a site-side filter for multiple categories/species/tags/image types while browsing and searching?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

On the beta I am having issues with the note inbox system. I can no longer view High, Medium, Low priority notes. I don't know if I missed a button or something. I don't like having to go through pages and pages of notes just to find one specific note I had added a priority to,

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wtf were you guys thinking, putting the descriptions OVER the thumbnails?!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

They were copying DA.
If DA did it, it must be correct.....right?.....RIGHT?!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Managing submissions on mobile is a nightmare.
Edit: mobile beta.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

whoa this is cool!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Gallery, favs and submission thumbs and descriptions are broken and disorganized...just a mess

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So anybody now who uploads a portrait pic is getting fucked over from somebody uploading a super wide pic because they "take up more space" ? Doesn't seem fair.
Please PLEASE give an option at least to revert it- change like this is one thing but allow us to choose!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I have noticed this

#link Posted: 2 months ago

exactly. These new thumbnail tiles are a cluttered mess. The old way was better, cleaner and gave each pic equal billing. Now everything is squished together and looks awful

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Holy hell, the new submissions page is just a god damn sensory overload.

everything is so massive and there is no info like titles or anything on screen at all. Stop fixing what isn't broken

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Editing submissions on Desktop is broken as well.

Everytime you go to select, it instead takes you to that image

#link Posted: 2 months ago

All my new submissions are broken on Chrome. If I try to click full view, the image disappears and will not come back. Only a problem in Chrome, and ONLY with the new submissions. Tried .png and .jpg just in case, and both will not work in Chrome. They appear properly in Firefox, and other people's submissions work fine, but the ones I submit are broken. I am not willing to switch to Firefox for the sake of one website.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Figured out that it is because of uBlock Origin. If I turn it off and get all your ugly as fuck ads, my submissions work fine.

I am not going to turn it off for your profits. Fuck your ads. They're flashy and in the way and ugly as hell and detract from the site. If they were out of the way, like a bottom page banner, that'd be one thing, but in the middle of the page? No.

Big old middle finger to you dumbshits.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You're perfectly welcome to dislike the ads, or anything else, but please try to remain civil and refrain from namecalling in your comments.

#link Posted: a month ago

I must agree with Mungo

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ohh man... I thought the code was broken when I saw those thumbnails on my gallery/front page.
Can't focus on anything in specific because all images of different sizes are just scattered everywhere with no order. Straight up aesthetically unpleasant for the eye.

I appreciate you guys efforts on the page! But this one is just. Eye-strain.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The gallery layout update is atrocious, I feel!!! Noted my distaste...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This unbalances the post-visibility. Wider pieces get WAY bigger thumbnails, literally more screenspace than vertical pictures. This is going to impact clickthrough behavior, especially on the front page, where newer artists get most of their watchers from.

It sort of looks nice, but in the end i feel this is problematic, and will skew people's image viewing behavior in a negative way.

And thumbnails for flash, which were supposed to be square, are now stretched to the aspect ratio of the swf instead? It's busted, guys. What do :S

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This for sure- I posed to prove :P

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks.
Also, it doesn't show the image name anymore, nor the 'by [artistname]' unless you mouse over the picture.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

In your submissions page you can toggle- at least there it kinda works but on the front page...well that doesn't really count

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh, i see. Yeah there's a button to turn the names back on, which is good. I'm surprised it isn't the default, but at least it's there.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah...shame it does nothing to fix the shitwall of tiled mess :V

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really don't like that feature at all. Harder to read and concentrate on stuff.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is a very good point! I think the staff should keep this in mind.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i suppose ill have to get used to the new thumbnails like on da -shrugs-

btw, is there any chance of a search feature in our own gallery in the future? i draw a lot so i think it'd be really useful!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

add "@lower kipaki" in the regular search for now

#link Posted: 2 months ago

oh, i didnt even know that was a thing! thanks pal

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well, this is an extraordinarily disappointing update for FurAffinity.

As far as site speed goes, I'm all for the improvements. However, you've traded loading time for disorganization and clutter on every single browsing page on the site.

I am glad that the 'toggle description' buttons can still be used as normal and give the site it's 'FurAffinity' feel back. The new text however is far too thin and cannot be read easily.

CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK:

Firstly I would recommend changing the text used on the 'shown descriptions' mode to where the text is easier to read. I have to lean my head towards my monitor to read the new text being used.

Second, I would ask to either add an option to use the classic gallery style; so users can choose how they wish to view the site. You can also use this to determine what users truly think about the site updates by how many people use the updated layout by tracking which users use which mode.

If that option is unreasonable/impossible, then there needs to be an option to set up the pages in a 'grid' format as opposed to a 'wall' format. This will allow users to see their pages in a structured format instead of throwing pictures at them en-masse and hoping they see something they like. Seriously the new format is just too much stuff just slathered on a page.

After all, if you're trying to be DeviantArt, you need to keep up with their terrible decisions. (Sorry, I had to throw that little jab in there because that's pretty much what FA is looking like it's becoming.)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Mobile issue (beta): unable to browse at all. I see 3-4 images on the front page per category with no way to peruse anything.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well that makes my justified gallery script obsolete. Good to see such a thing implemented. Look forward to seeing those thumbnails finally fixed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not being able to see the title of a submission without holding your cursor over its thumbnail makes it harder to browse.

And we have to be careful which parts if a thumbnail we click now, otherwise we go to the artist's page, and not the submission itself.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nice~

I also seem to notice the new thumbnail system appears to be much better with colors~ they really pop now on my IPS monitor

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Dooo NOOOOT like the submission gallery update. Stuff looks way too cramped together >_<;

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed. It's so bad.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

looks fine viewing it on chrome @ 1080p ...and i have thumbnail sizes at 250

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I use Beta exclusively, and I must say, by far this is the worst fucking update ever. The submissions look way too crowded, clicking on submissions is harder, the banner is gone, the site feels way more empty and far too big, and overall it's hard to read and interpret things. 7 years, FA. 7 Years I have been on this site and this is the worst fucking update by far. This is the only time I have ever complained about an update, it's awful. Can you please make a option to restore some of the features back to how they were?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hit Toggle submissions for the easy to click checkboxes again

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That still isn't really all too helpful, the images are still way to close together and long images take up more space than smaller ones.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That new front page is very gross.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hmm. My feedback - I rather enjoyed the consistent sized images; for someone like me who *needs* that grid to be nice and orderly, it bugs the ever living jesus out of me. The setup looks a lot smoother now, but I dont know if I can handle it as it is.

Also. Description text when toggle descriptions is pressed looks out of line with the rest of the site, unless it's supposed to look like Courrier New?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Additionally, mouseover isn't possible for me currently on my mobile. Can either quick tap, and instantly open an image/sub, or click and hold, opening my OS's default selection submenu.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why are the colors changed AGAIN on the Desktop site?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Next they are going to roll out a big obnoxious Green or some other bright color "premium membership" logo that doesn't match the color of the site like how DA has the very orange core membership logo that doesn't go with the green color of DA

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Font for titles needs to be thicker. Otherwise it's not too bad. Very Weasyl of you.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm adoring the set up of the thumbnails! very nice! keep it up guys you even fixed the manage submission section that wasn't allowing me to remove submissions! thanks for the fix! I'm a beta only user, and I feel this had made it even better for me personally.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't want to sound ungrateful, believe me, that's not my intention, but the filters for ratings in the search are still broken. When you search for something NSFW, it defaults to "general" but not "adult" or "mature, as the Classic Theme had. So I have to click a tag for it to work, is that really a complex issue to resolve with the search engine?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really love it

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The new gallery layout for the thumbnails looks horrid. I desperately want to have an option to revert it already and the same with my submissions. Going to view submissions is a mess now with how the descibtions are changed even when toggled back on which isn't default anymore when it really should be. Speaking of the changed the new font type selected is a huge eye sore with how thin and faded it appears. Please let us revert this by settings. Dropping these kinds of layout changes suddenly is just awful in practice and not all of us want to have to get used to the downgrades.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wow! It's amazing. Can't wait for more!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Honestly, I'm not too fond of the new thumbnail display style... but I'm sure I'll get over that and get used to it in due time.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So we're just going to start copying other website layouts? Okay.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks for the updates!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can we please have the old layout back and the 'new and improved' one as an option.. The old style offered a better overall look at your submission inbox.. now honestly it's a bit of a big clusterfuck, no offense meant of course, just voicing my personal opinion.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I agree. The new layout is hell on the eyes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah the old one had structure and you could quickly scan through with your eyes. Yes the thumbnails were small but easily seen on a decently big screen which most people have these days. If I want to see the full image, I click on the submission.. So horrible..

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh so the first thing I noticed when I got on FA was that the thumbnails on front page looked clearer!
AND my icon Gifs actually displayed their images instead of some weird fuzzy cut of a piece that was animated.
I was so happy to see this. I agree with other users that the thumbnails in galleries and such are a tad
close together. Thank you so much for the update.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can we at least have the option for the old submission layout if you guys really want to keep this new cramped (in my opinion) layout as a thing...?

I've only looked through 1 1/2 pages of submissions and already have a headache from trying to keep track of where I am and where one image ends and the next begins T^T

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There honestly needs to be an option to revert things back to their original style. This is the same thing dA did with their system, and it was horrible when they did it. I'm not a fan of this new setup at all, even with the Toggle Descriptions active, and I don't think that this was implemented with any real warning on the part of those who don't participate in the site beta. I'd use the site beta if I wanted to have a layout like that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

IS IT BROKEN?

If you think something is broken or not working as described in the journal, PLEASE include a screenshot and describe the issue! Thanks!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Give us the option to go back to the old layout in classic site!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Or better yet, please roll back the update on classic site. Seriously, it's a jumbled mess. ;n;

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It aint Broken, its just bad. Please, let us have the option to use the UI we want, and better yet, allow us to provide INPUT on site and the content of the updates. No word, and just suddenly a UI change that, as far as I can tell in the comments, Few people actually like.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I can't even get to the checkboxes for removing watchlist notifications without having Javascript enabled and hovering over the thumbnail!? Please, please knock that shit off. The fact that you could functionally use this site on a low-end computer without a bunch of JS bullshit was one of the primary things FA had over the festering pile that deviantArt has become.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm diggin' it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What about the "Image Not Found" placeholders that fill up a gallery folder when a submission is deleted? I asked about this on twitter but didn't get an answer.

Example: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vucnjy0y.....%2019.png?dl=0

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We're aware of this issue and it'll be worked on. I can't give you an ETA for a fix - the best workaround there is for the moment is for users to manually remove a submission from all folders when deleting it. I know that's a bit of a pain, and hopefully we'll be able to offer you a better solution soon.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

FA admins: How we can make this terrible website look even worse.
FA admins: ....
FA admins: shitty layout, GOT IT.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not a fan of the new subscriptions inbox layout.

The thumbnails are small, and the "hit box" for selecting one to be deleted is very small. I keep opening the pic rather than selecting it because the name of the pic takes up a lot of the space for selecting.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Just reloaded the recent submissions and thought

"What happened?!?

It's really not great at all to don't see the title and artist anymore without hovering the mouse over the preview. I'm not happy to first click "check all" to be able to see that information.

Edit: Oh, no! The same is in the galleries?! Why do you break a good looking system for something with less information?
The title is an important information I dunno why it's lost from view...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Click toggle descriptions if you don't like the hover.
I like the hover, but for those who don't toggle descriptions puts titles and artist under submissions again. <3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ah, thanks! That's much better!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Personally not a HUGE fan of the gallery update but I'll grow to get used to it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

are you going to fix thumbnails

#link Posted: 2 months ago

From the journal:

We acknowledge that thumbnails for non-image uploads are too small, and that the custom thumbnail functionality to submissions are broken. This update highlights the issue. Fixing custom thumbnails and allowing for their higher resolution is the highest priority fix on our list.

So... yes, provided this is what you meant by "fix thumbnails". If you meant something else, I'm afraid you're going to be more specific.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Im not sure on why people are complaining about the thumbnails, I understand their reason but still. I like the size difference on them to be honest.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

For me it's not having the same number of thumbnails on each row that really bugs me.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Am I looking at a gallery of thumbnails or fucking windows 10 tiles? Who knows.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can at least align and resize win 10 tiles to fit on a nice orderly grid. This is my ocd's nightmare.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like it! :D

Now just crossing my fingers to have the password security thing every time i try to delete submissions gone.. that gets pretty irritating with multiple submissions to delete on different pages x___x

#link Posted: 2 months ago

WA.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Let's make the site better by hiding information.

I'm lazy. I want to be able to read the titles without mousing over them.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Toggle description.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can there atleast be an option to change it back to the old one? I really don't like how it looks. :/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nah. Gonna come back in a few days to see if this dumpster fire is fixed. I really can't handle it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Im still using the classic site interface atm
in my opinion, the Thumbnails are way too close together. I know you can turn the titles/usernames back on but I feel like they should be on by default instead of the other way around.
Without any space between each other the thumbnails look cluttered and claustrophobic without any sort of organization.
I feel like this can make browsing the site unpleasant and difficult for users with autism and adhd, or anyone else easily susceptible to sensory overloads. Its definitely uncomfortable for me to look at.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Do you know how to do that? ;;3;;

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It was ridiculously hard to find but yes
You have to go to
Page management > submissions > then click the bar that says "toggle descriptions" on the side and it should turn on titles and usernames for you.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Okay, thanks

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There is also a toggle descriptions button at the top of each page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Go to your gallery & click on 'toggle descriptions'!
It still looks awfully cluttered, but hey, at least you can see the title of the submissions.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why do you guys keep changing things that no-one asked for. The old spacing was fine! Add things that users have been asking for like proper blocklists and blacklist for certain tags. FFS.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Some constructive criticism: (based on what I'm seeing in the Classic UI)

1. As a user with sight issues, the new default font for descriptions is not the most readable. It would be nice to have a more readable font. Actually, on the subject, perhaps a "high readability" option for the entire site would be a future option? IE, it would make the site's fonts larger and cleaner overall? That said, I'm mainly interested in the descriptions. I'm not sure if this is due to the toggled on descriptions, or if it's just a default, but a better font would be nice.

2. I love the concept of larger thumbnails! It's great - but I definitely agree that it would be very nice to have more padding between images. Even if the layout remains justified, the addition of more padding will help prevent smaller thumbnails from being overlooked. Alternatives to this however include:
-- An option for a more original grid-oriented theme that limits the number of thumbs per row.
-- Limiting the maximum width of thumbnails.

Those are the two things I can think of. I'm not going to touch on the "things to add" and I don't use the Beta UI, so I can only base these things off of classic.

vuv)/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I just wanted to let you know, there is a maximum width limit per thumbnail, but it's possible the number may need to be reconsidered.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

maybe just a little bit
http://i.imgur.com/QBwlKxH.jpg
^ too easy to abuse the new thumbnail system get rid of this garbage

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The new submission layout looks like something a highschooler threw together....
The old format was 10 time better then the DA copycat BS you came up with

#link Posted: 2 months ago

In the previous episode: After numerous user complaints about the color, Dragoneer promised the beta layout would soon be reverted back to using darker colors! At long last it... ah. Actually it just got even brighter since then.

Nothing to worry about however: It's also been confirmed that commercial ads will no longer show on submissions for logged in users! What's that? They... still show? In fact new ones were added in the sidebar to the right even? Right... right.

Well, at least all of the site features are working well with the beta layout! Wait... what? There is still no smiley bar on comments, for over an year since the layout was introduced? Alright damn it, I quit!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

XD Yes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

No sir, I don't like it. Please put the descriptions and checkboxes back underneath the thumbnails as the default option, and change the font back to something that's not so thin-stroked.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"Thumbnails are justified to browser window width". It's not comfortable, at all. Go back asap please...
Also RIP ultra widescreen users :o

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Under ~732px width, page margins are missing on /msg/others/, putting the checkboxes right to the edge of the screen. Looks like it'd be a mobile UI nightmare.

Thanks for the search fix though. :)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

People use the classic FA and not the Beta for a reason. They liked things how they were. Just dropping something like that without any warning is just a big nono in my eyes. You have the Beta to try things out but leave the Classic FA alone. We use classic because we like things the way they are. We didn't want some broken thumbnail system that offers way too much room for trolling. At least give us an option to use the old 'each thumbnail is the same' system which worked perfectly fine for out classic needs.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really don't like this update.

- Shoving everything so close together makes it harder to quickly look over a page to find what I want.
- Checkboxes on the submissions messages page are now WAY harder to quickly click. Instead of having a large area to click that I can see before clicking, I now have to mouseover, observe what position is clickable, then click in a much smaller space than before.

This really reduces the usability of FA in terms of how quickly I can navigate with the mouse and how quickly I can look over messages in my inbox.

Also it has made the checkboxes almost unusable on mobile. I have to long press to make the check box appear then check it for every check box... before it was just a simple tap in a large area that activated the checkbox.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This. So much this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thumbnail size increase is nice but, why would you REPLACE the layout of them in galleries and submissions? You could have made it an optional thing. Deviantart's had this compacted layout for a while now and I have never been able to get used to it. So naturally, having it be as something that can be enabled or disabled, like the colour theme of the website for example, would be really nice. I found the old layout to be comfortable and organized honestly, what with having the names and by whom the upload was submitted by.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to change the layout back?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Interesting. Instead of precisely sized thumbnails, you went for using the closest thumbnail size larger than or equal to the required size. That means:

* Almost always, more data is downloaded than actually required. For example, thin horizontal images use 600 px width images displayed at 450 px width. Not the best usage of bandwidth, but I don't care.
* All old thumbnail sizes seem to be preserved (100, 150, 200, 300, 400, now(?) 600). If you at any time decide to revert back or provide alternative layout, it's easy to do. Or a user script can be written to do that.

Not sure whether I love or hate the new layout, but it's a good thing nothing is badly broken.

Well, except my user script which changes thumbnail size on the fly, among other things. Resizing has to be rewritten from scratch...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That's cool!

Just one thing. Didn't know if somebody asked it before but, when the possibility to change the username of the account? Any option or something about that in the settings.
Just a quick question!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there something wrong with the Support System, I sent in tickets and they're being ignored.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Now it looks like a big mess

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Im not a big fan of the new format.... But a lot of people seem to like it so... I dont got much point in voicing my concerns on it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Just because people like something doesn't mean you should keep quiet about it. You have every reason and right to voice your concerns. Thinking like that is what allows problems to grow, so please, speak up.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

One violin is mute in the crowd of the orchestra.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

But more people seem to hate it than like it. Me included.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

By that logic, we should hear no strings at all.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Love this update instantly. ^_^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hay, familiar face.
How can you like this though, I hate it with all my guts. Page is 100% unusuable now IMO.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

To be honest, not sure, but feels more clean and like the appeal of a filled page in this format than blank spaces in-between them.

Of course I have the descriptions under the pictures than hover my mouse over them.

Mesmerizing I guess...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Loving the new layout tbh, threw me off guard when I came on tonight, but I love how it looks!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

beautiful :claps:

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Sorry, but you probably should have left the classic site alone. Doesn't look good in classic.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yep.. It's called 'Classic' for a reason..

#link Posted: 2 months ago

looks really crappy and cluttered in classic, i want my old layout back where all thumbs where of the same sine, not some taking even 1/4 of the screen!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Being primarily on a tablet, I haven't tried the Beta look yet, so I have no idea how this update looks on there.

On Classic? I'm sorry, but an art site should do everything it can to highlight a user's artwork and make it so people who want to see it actually can. It's too cluttered, it's FAR to easy to miss submissions, and as someone who is VERY OCD when it comes to layouts? It's driving me up a wall. I want to SEE who posted something WITHOUT needing to mouse over it, ya know, seeing as how Amazon decided to NOT make using a mouse easy with Fire tablets.

I'm sorry, but for the love of all be creative. Be smart. DON'T FOLLOW DEVIANTART. You want a site people enjoy posting on, where they can meet new friends and grow as an artist. It's hard enough to get new followers and views on this damn site, you really wanna make it that much harder for people to find new artists and admire their work?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I wanna just ad something. While toggling the descriptions DOES help, I want my art to be SEEN, not hidden in a sea of other art pieces. Image a wall in an art gallery covered in various art pieces, much like the update, with a description plate plastered over the art. That'd be kinda rude to the artists, don't you think? Sorry if that sounded rude.

You wanna add a nice feature? I normally wouldn't suggest this, but take a page from Google and do a "I'm feeling lucky" button that lets me see some random user or piece of art (make it so both are options in fact). THAT would be a good feature.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really like the new update, the galleries look great!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Cluttering everything together and making people dizzy is the way of the future.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Honestly though, it's really hard to look at. I'm getting a headache.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oookay...

Now can we swap it back? My eyes are getting serious strains of watching even a single page of the new cramped look. I am NOT going to view galleries or my inbox like this. Please, have a revert option, and have it soon.

If I wanted cramped style I would have gone to Furry Network. But I didn't, cause I HATE it. Sad to see it appearing here, and no option to actually give my eyes the much needed rest and spacing apparently modern webdesigners think isn't required. *sigh*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Best update so far on the site

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh, you broke my custom block filter for artists I didn't want to see stuff from when I searched things.
Thanks.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I want to know how to do something like this!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I just noticed something. Why did you put an @ next to all links? It looks so weird. Now every single link I have to put an @ to the other side of it so it is even on both sides.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Eh, not really a fan of it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The one issue with this is that the stories in the galleries look a bit odd.

I don't get why people are bitching tho, this looks fine.

PS: Please fix your terrible image compression. Twitter's image compression is better than this and gives more leeway for it to be at least slightly high res.

Also, make an art filter system and maybe try to get artists to start posting the content they make in their own gallery.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

My reaction: Oh, it changed. This is Meh. Oh... I can't change it back... Who thought it was a good idea to NOT allow people to change back? It was nice, neat and uniform before. Now it's just a mess with no consistency.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I would like to ge back to pre update, it is just broken for me.
https://gyazo.com/3d34b13a9e48c9fcffd887ba496b4e29

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to have an option of changing images back to grid view? This is very over-stimulating and grid view was one of the reasons I was on this site instead of other art sites.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

cool

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh look, IMVU is trying to make things "better" by hiding artist names and submission names.

I AM SO FUCKING SHOCKED.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

LMAO forreal tho

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can go to any gallery page (Browse, Search, your submission inbox, any user's Gallery or Scraps...) and click the "toggle descriptions" button to get the names/titles back to displaying by default. When descriptions are toggled off, they will instead display on hover on desktops.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Alright. I gotta say. Why would you change the layout like this, even on classic, from the very nice and effective look that it had, to this? Now it is impossible to find anything. The layout is broken, the thumbnails look glued together and in general dreadful. The old look was much better and it was so easy to navigate through it. Besides, FA had the old layout for many years, because in my view, it worked, and this new look does not fit it at all. The "Let's squish all the pictures together to make as many of them fit in one page" is not working, it looks wrong and it is very straining on the eyes.
In all honesty, it already gave me a headache.

I must admit that this is one of the worst updates the site ever had.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Amen to this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really like the thumbnail system but it brings one problem for me... I've used the Furaffinity Filter extension for a long time now and this update is finally the one to break its ability to filter certain users. Some people... spam... sections I like to Browse and now the good art I'm trying to view is far and few between the terrible. Could the block feature be used to do this at the least? Blocking people on most websites removes all visibility of that person from you and if the extension won't be updated (the developer said they wouldn't update it again almost a year ago) I'd very much like to be able to at least hide certain people.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

How about leaving the Classic Site alone?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Amen to this! First the whole swap the newer/older direction, now this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Would be so lovely...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I see that the artist name and title of the picture is now only displayed when you hover over an picture. While I can understand that you want to save space to let the user focus on the actual art, I REALLY miss to see title and artist name. Especially when on mobile, I physically cannot even hover over the picture! I really dislike that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks for forcing them to be bigger. Can you NOT change site settings on people and just TELL them about it? Didn't need to see literal shit/disgusting kink pics in an even bigger size now.

I'm legit sick of seeing disgusting things on the front page because you guys are the ONLY site that doesn't let people block by kink/tags/ect.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Leave the classic Site alone, agreeing with shadydude there.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

With every passing update this site just keeps getting worse.

Seriously, stop trying to "fix" this crapheap of a site. You're just pouring more gas onto a fire.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I dislike large thumbnails it's the same reason I refuse to be on other sites. -_-

I also dislike when classic mode is screwed with, leave it alone that's why people still use it we don't like fancy stuff.

Classic mode should be allowed to keep thumb sizes in the 40's, 60's 80's >.<

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Guys, white space, use it. Wow, I can't even focus on one picture in my submissions box or a gallery because all the others are just like noise next to it. Please separate them by a slight bit!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Interesting update, reminds me on the Weasyl Gallery Format.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh wonderful, mush-together thumbnails. I downloaded the Stylish addon for chrome just to turn this mash together off on Weasyl... If I wanted things smashed together, I'd make some potatoes!

As a constructive gripe, this new format makes wide thumbnails the eye-catching click-bait, and the square and thin thumbnails fade into obscurity around this. This is going to end up probably one of two ways: Everyone makes wide thumbnails, which will probably lead to a war of wide thumbnails, or you guys force a maximum width, in which case everyone starts to do their thumbnails to that max, and you return to the fixed-width grid you just threw in the trashcan because the users forced it via thumbnail widths.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Changes, changes everywhere!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

PLEASE change the gallery pages back to the way they were! They were so easy to use before, now the changing size of the thumbnails is making me dizzy when I scan across them rapidly. PLEASE change it back!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Did you already fixed the search having the mature and adult filters deactivated by default?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Everyone missing the old submissions :

Hit Toggle Descriptions
Also in Global Site Settings under Settings on the top right, there you can change thumb sizes~

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Tried both, it's not the same... and the descriptions look really odd, it's also a pain to read them I don't recall being there before.
So no, it's not even a bleeding patch "sollution"... as it makes barely any difference.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

*shrug* thought id try, i honestly dont see any problems on my end. submission page is how i like it at least.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Really depends on the page. Have folders, then it immediately looks tons better due to less estate space.
However an user without folders and with primarily vertical images?

Welcome to hell. Literally. All 48 images fit in a single screen, and that's very very straining on the eyes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

well yeah i could see that being awful in that situation , i personally dont check fa on my phone. Simply because extended use on my 4S on about any apps anymore is a battery buzzkill XD

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't... desktop monitor, 1920x1080. Sensory overload.
It's like watching 1000 channels on a 40" inch TV at the same time. Doubt many would not get headaches of even short exposure to that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Im also on 1080p and have the size set to 250, so only see about half that on my screen (also have limit per page to 72)

(also forgot to mention using beta)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Classic... that might explain the difference in "not too bad" and "I wanted an easy viewable and well organised site, not this smorgasboard of images"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I think they plan to eventually stop messing with classic all together at some point id imagine, ive had beta active since it was released ... mainly cus wanted change and to stubborn to like alternatives

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like the idea, but this is in serious need of some fine-tuning. Please go back to using the old font, or at least increase the thickness of the new font to something that I can read again. Also, please add some extra space between the new thumbnails so they aren't so cluttered. As it is, everything is run so tightly together that it's very hard to scan visually. Just 10 to 20 additional pixels between each thumbnail would help a whole lot. Remember, about 15 to 25 percent of the users here have less than perfect vision, so the overly thin fonts and crowded thumbnail spacing make the site a lot harder to use.

New stuff like this needs to be tested and debugged in the beta theme first, before being unleashed to classic theme users. That's what beta is for. Please consider making a separate version for mobile users, so you don't have to keep compromising on the desktop version.

On the positive side, I love the larger 250px size option. The thumbs are finally large enough to see easily, if only they weren't crammed so tightly together.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I can't stand this new update! It's way too clustered and unorganized! Not only that but now it's a nightmare to clean out my feed with these so close together. There is no way to select which picture I want to delete without opening the link. It's nothing but a maze now and just confused me. I loved how it was.
PLEASE change it back or at least make it so we can individually change it back

#link Posted: 2 months ago

An update to the non-beta UI?
Is this even real?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

My ocd is going crazy oh my goodness D:

#link Posted: 2 months ago

not a fan of galleries looking all smushed together now
oh god, and it's so much worse for the inbox

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really wish that we had an option about how to view the thumbnails I personally liked when you could see the artist names under the images instead of having to mouse over.
The thumbnails are really too big now and it looks messy.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

New gallery interface is shite on mobile. All cramped and ugly, too. Would have rather had it so that so that the titles were clickable for when those stupid little corner icons got in the way and wouldn't let me view a submission, but now there's no chance of that. But who cares about mobile users anyway, huh?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Really really dislike the thumbnails not having dedicated space not on the image to select or deselect. It's really frustrating to go through submissions like that cause I keep clicking the image or the title and going to that page instead of selecting or deselecting. Also why are the story icons so oddly tiny by comparison?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Issue: When using the browser's back button/function while browsing submissions, currently selected items are not preserved. Which makes deleting multiple a bit of a pain if you mis-click one.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Honestly, I hate how I can no longer see the artist name and submission title anymore. Yes, I know you can hover over them, but that means I need to hover over each one to see what they are, I would much rather have an option to just display them all on the page like they used to.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I noticed that too, it used to be a toggle, hopefully it's just a temporary thing :D

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I also noticed that the hover-over is useless if the thumbnail is too small. I just mover-overed a vertical comic strip, and it just showed 4 or so letters of the description.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yep, hopefully this is all just a phase :P

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm sure my question is now buried in the sea of others, but will we ever have a feature that shows page numbers with the scroll arrows? Like if someone has 20 pages in their gallery, it would be awesome if I wanted to go straight to page 20, I wouldn't have to constantly hit the scroll button to skip through each and every page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I generally type pagenumber in the adress-bar. Not the most efficient sollution agreed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh, I know, but if you don't know how many pages they have to begin with... :P

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I love that half the horizontal comics in my inbox are now literally un-selectable because of this formatting. Thanks for that. Great design choice.

Other grievances:
-Images float together too much. Because I follow artists that either use the Scraps a lot of just don't color their work, black and white images being so close makes them hard to see just how many images are actually present without actively hovering over them.
-Colored images just become a massive blur. With little neutral or blank space between them, things just become a massive magic eye picture.
-Images are no longer uniform. Because of the massive ballooning of the thumbnails, lines will have an arbitrary amount of images. Going from 5, to 6, back to 5, then spontaneously to 3. It's a massive cluster because it's now dictated by the size of the image, rather than just how many uploads were made during that day.
-It's just an eyesore. It's like a post-modern house doing all that it can to stay relevant. The previous design was efficient, straight forward, appealing to the eye, and very, very clean. This is a massive Deviant Art/Tumblr mess of ballooned images that makes things a nightmare to navigate.

At the very least, be merciful enough to allow an option to revert back to the previous design. This isn't me bitching about how all change is evil. This is someone annoyed that you removed something efficient and simple just for purely stylistic and aesthetic purposes, with no regard as to why. Imagine windows 7 going to 8, if you want a proper analogy.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Instead of just rolling out an update and forcing everybody to be happy with it, a sort of opt in feature would be nice. Like if you opt in, you get changes as they happen. That way the devs can get feedback without fucking everything up. At the same time, those who didn't opt in keeps the current tried and tested layout. If they get it right, then the update's pushed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

this new site gallery layout has a rather adverse affect on my stomach and eyes. i felt ill from trying to concentrate on just one thing. i would really like an option to keep the old layout, please.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not a fan of this change. I turned on descriptions and now the submission title is a link along with the image making it incredibly easy to accidentally go to the submission's page instead of checking the image for removal. I'd strongly recommend removing the title link part of the update.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Feels too much like tumblr.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I rather have the old layout back. This one seems very disorganized and is driving my ocd nuts. I honestly am very disappointed with all the "progress" that has been made under the new ownership.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You know guys, if you're going to FORCE thumbnails to be bigger, add in a proper tag system for gods sake. I don't want even more crap tossed into my face because the images have been up sized when before it was easier to ignore. Seriously, why isn't a tag system with blockable tags a thing yet? Is it that hard to make people HAVE to include tags so people can finally block out things they don't want to see?

On that note about the thumbnails themselves... Everything on classic was nice and clean before this update. Now? Everything is smashed together, the text looks like shit and just in general it looks like someone just tossed this together and said 'Good enough'. Guys, you have a beta for a reason. Test your updates on the BETA site and leave the CLASSIC site alone. People use the classic site because they liked the look of it BEFORE you started changing things, hence the beta. Do we need to remind anyone of when the sidebars were tossed in and we were told to deal with it at the time? Same thing right now. You added in an update that most people who still use classic are NOT wanting to use. Is it so hard to ask the userbase before just... doing? I mean come on.

TL;DR
Add in a tag system with blocking features.
Change the layout back to what it was, please.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ok may I say Amen to this, The reason we chose classic is because we hate all the new changes. So just leave classic be.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The change is okay. A change I recommend is to put social media link icons on the site instead of scrolling in the drop down menu.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

... ok, I have 2 issues.
1: I needed to read the comments to this post to figure out how to get the submission titles and artist names back into the default view. As someone who for a number of reasons disables JavaScript a lot of the time this was necessary to know who made the submission, and even worse was needed to know any information at all about a story.
2: The close and cluttered thumbnail style is not very nice to look at. Some more space at minimum would be nice, but I really preferred having all of them in a grid.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What if I like the old version, so I don't accidentally enter the pictures while I'm clicking the check box?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to make the thumbnail size not so big?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

on your "account management" at "Site Settings" you can shrink down the thumbnails.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why is every page using that layout bullshit? ~_~

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I rather strongly prefer the old thumbnail system, I'd prefer to see it restored.

My main objection is that going with constant-height thumbnails strongly prioritizes art with landscape orientations. If I submit two pieces, one at 1x2, the other at 2x1, the landscape piece gets four times the screen space as the portrait orientation picture. Browsing visibility shouldn't be weighted so dramatically by something as simple as image orientation. I really hope you'll consider bringing the old grid-based display back.

That said, I'm glad to see the new size options, and I'm really happy to see the description toggle to let users pick their preferred settings. Good to see more options that give the user control over their display preferences.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I wrote a greasemonkey script to restore grid browsing. If anybody wants it, you can find it here: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/21841806/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

First thought, "Hey, I thought i was on FA, not Weasyl..."

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I miss the extra room that you had to check items for removal. Now I have to precisely hit the tiny box which is a pain on a phone or laptop.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Just letting you know, in case you are keeping track of things, I'm on Classic, and I prefer the thumbnail layout the way it was before.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"Let's take something that's clean and neatly arranged, and shit all over it"

Stellar coding. I'm sure IMVU is happy of the coding skills of the dumbasses the site hires.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've noticed today that when I'm looking at the submission thumbnails, the artists names aren't below the thumbnails.

How can I fix this? How can I make their names appear below all the thumbnails?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This does not work on the aggregating page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm not sure what you mean by "aggregating page", I'm afraid? It seems to work fine for me both on the Browse page and in my submission inbox, which are the two places I could see being referred to as such.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Traditionally, the aggregating page (in general) is where all your follows or friends posts are collected, here also known as the Submissions, where recent entries appear in reverse chronological order. BTW thanks for your attentiveness to viewer's concerns. ^v^ I rarely comment but felt this one was worth trying.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That would be what I've been referring to as the submission inbox, then. Sorry for the confusion! The Browse page is also an aggregate of recent submissions, and I've not heard the term used in reference to FA before, so I wasn't certain which you were referring to.

If you're having persistent issues with getting titles/artist names to display there, and toggling them doesn't help, I can only really suggest trying clearing your cookies (this will log you out!), and if that doesn't do it, either, file a ticket under "User Interface Issue" with screenshots, and what device(s) and browser(s) you're having these issues on so our tech team can look into it further.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

In fact even 'hover' does not show names.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I do not like this new layout, the pictures are way too close together, they are too busy. Please give us the option of going back to the old layout.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Guys guys, don't bother. DON'T BOTHER.

Haven't you got the hint already? The FA staff doesn't give a fuck about you. they do whatever it is that they want and if you don't like it then too bad!

I mean, what are you gonna do, LEAVE THE SITE?

Hahaha, oh you~

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Sadly this seems to be the case. Although, sometimes there is the rare case that enough people bitch for long enough that they do take a change back. Its happened like what 3 times, ever.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Sadly enough all alternatives look as shitty as this.
That's why I kinda liked FA over them, looking actually ordered rather than just a diarrhea of furry thrown at the user.

Sadly, actual usable sites are apparently not meant to be... eye-sore it is

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I know Weasyl did this same crap and it angered a lot of people. I guess you can always use Furiffic?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed, I put in a feature request (very simple feature request no less) 1 year 2 months ago. Nothing.

At the bottom of every artists Gallery where it has the "<< Back" button, "Viewing page #1" and "Next >>" button

I personally would really like to see an addition of how many pages that artist has, sometimes I like to look through their galleries, and sometimes artists have hundreds and hundreds of pictures, so it seemingly never ends.

I'd like to see a total page count. Not hard to do, the database is already being called to display [Submissions Per Page], and on the "User page" of a user it displays the total number of submissions, So why not just do [Total Artist Submissions] \ [User Preference for Number of submissions per page] = Total Pages

Also, in that case, could remove the # sign after Page, as it looks a little ugly.
[ << Back ] Viewing page 1 / 25 [ Next >> ]

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Okay, this is weird... Most galleries look horrid, but this is the most odd one.

http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/foxamoore/
No descriptions: Horror fest
Descriptions on: Actually looks good. Did they fix it? *checks other gallery* Nope, just this one, eh? Why?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That gallery is all links to music files, which still have the old size thumbnails. Generally, any music, stories, poetry and flash galleries will still have the old thumbnails size - until they get around to changing them too.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I have mixed feelings on this new change. I don't really hate nor love the new change quite yet, but I can see where people are coming from.

Honestly, when I first heard there were 'thumbnail changes' I got excited, thinking maybe the thumbnail warnings I've made for my commissions that have more non-vanilla fetishes (ex. Vore) - would actually SHOW up in the gallery tab. But nope, they don't.

Even when I would go into the thumbnail editor, it would just say 'No file selected' even after I upload my thumbnail and click 'Submit'.

I would just like this fixed so I can go about commissioning what I like, while still showing respect to those that browse my gallery that would like to NOT see certain fetishes. That's why I make 'Fetish Warning' thumbnails, for that reason. *Sigh*

Either that, or FA needs to incorperate a Tag blacklist system.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've been pining over that for years now along with nearly everyone else on FA, so sick of people complaining that they saw something in my gallery they didn't like because the thumbnail for the actual image is too small for them to see the thing they don't like.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

As the news journal says, fixing custom thumbnails is high on the priority list, particularly with this update changing up how thumbnails display. I can't tell you when it'll be done, but we fully intend to get them working again.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is it broken?
No.
Don't fix it.
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There are lot better things to do to the site, instead of changing the thumbnail system. Can fix the bugs that already exist in the site for a long time. Can add in features everyone been wanting. Like a blacklist feature, or stuff that is possible. Fix the stuff you can. :3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

For real FA... the new gallery and New Submissions... if it isn't broke don't fix it. it's fuck ugly and impractical...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can we get the hoover-for-description behavior back on the front page? That was one thing I always thought FA did better than Weasyl, and now it's gone. :( There's lots of times I want to know a little more about an image but don't care enough to actually click on it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks for everything you do, staff of FurAffinity! ^.=.^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't like the new overlay, the font is ugly, old one was better. Will NEVER get used to this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What a nice update! Still hope to see "preview" buttons for Journals and artist descriptions sooner rather than later

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The update's made browsing the website a real eyesore now with how all the images just get mashed together as if running out of space. :(

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I too would really love the thumbnail system from before this back, I much preferred the grid based with all the info under it. I mostly browse on my phone, I cannot 'mouse over' with me Android and now the new submissions are just a clusterfck for me.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You still only get a fraction of the information unless the picture is a huge landscape. In the old style, it would give another line if the title was longer than the thumbnail width, now it just cuts off into a '...'

Please just give classic users the classic look back, there's a reason people kept using it.

edit: I guess the text was fixed while I was asleep, but I still really dislike the layout itself. I really still want the grid back.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

PLEASE CHANGE THE CLASSIC BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS! I HATE THIS CLUTTER MESS YOU HAVE AND DON'T LIKE HOW YOU CAN'T SEE THE NAMES OF THE ARTISTS FOR SUBMISSIONS!!!!!! Please fix the classic, keep it the same as always!!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I SECOND THIS

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I know that but it is stupid to have to do that.... i don't think you should change anything to the classic site. Leave it alone. ..... please go back to the grid for the galleries and stop messing with it. If it isn't broken don't fix it!!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to change the font back? I really perfer the old one...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I do not like the new UI in the submissions page, at all, it's very uncomfortable and confusing.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I DONT LIKE CHANGE!!! DX
But i can grow to like this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Add me as yet another voice asking for the ability to turn off that butt-ugly and annoying "random width brick wall" appearance for thumbnail pages.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well, thanks for giving search back on mobiles. The notifications bar is still not showing in landscape mode, but it's not a major problem.
And about notifications page, i wish i could still see who uploaded that picture before clicking on it, at least on mobile. I don't think the change looks bad, but at least an option to toggle it on/off would be nice

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

S T O P

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What about the deleted submission thumbnails?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Submission sidebar is still obnoxious and clips wider images. :|

The option to use the "Next/Previous" thumbnail over previews is not working.

The "Let's turn our gallery display into some unholy amalgamation inspired by Tumblr!" is a major turn off, this was the main reason I left DA coupled with their BS excuses of not wanting to take time to make an option for it to have a less bandwidth consuming and obnoxious version for 'purists' like me.

A very disappointing update, if I had to be frank here.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm with this 100%.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Just a note - we were able to resolve the bug with the sidebar and have applied the fix to your account.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

any chance that the search feature will allow terms with only 2 characters anytime soon? (such as AC, EF, FC, FE, ...)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I know it's something that's been looked at, but I don't know what stage it's at right now, so I'm afraid I can't tell you when it might be implemented. We're aware that it's an issue, though, and while two-letter acronyms that also form valid English words (can't think of any off the top of my head that are in common use, but if there are any, it would apply to them) would still be excluded, we understand being able to search for the ones that aren't would be an improvement.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I assumed that would be a relatively easy change of just editing some config / hardcoded value for minWordLength and rebuilding the search index.
It does not appear that FA currently filters common binding words like "the", "and", "you", etc. Would adding the 2 letter words affect the DB in a very bad way in terms of performance and storage / memory space?

Sure you will have a hard time finding a hypothetical Con or fetish "OF", but the same currently applies to finding artwork of Elite Tauren Chieftain in the short form of "ETC"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I guess the "rebuild the Index" is much easier said than done on a scale of the FA DB

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I can't say what the database impact might be, as it's been a long time since my last database class, and I don't know the inner workings of Sphinx (our search engine). From what I understand changing the constraint and maintaining performance is a fair deal more involved than changing a configuration setting, though.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Variable thumbnail sizes is not inherently a bad idea. Having it change the number of entries per row is a terrible idea, having no spacing between images in lists because of the variable size is a terrible idea.

Let people select how they want their things listed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Absolute garbage. how about fix things that are broken instead of messing with things that no one complains about.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wow this looks like garbage. No thumbnails? Those were the nice things artists put on to warn you about content. And now the titles don't even fit? My gallery looks like garbage now because I can't see any titles on any stories. They're tiny and it's a crap shoot what I open

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not a huge fan of the submissions control panel, can't even select pics to delete from mobile.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The new layout for galleries and browse is crap. Point.
Bring back the old grid layout where all thumbs where equal!!... i do not want certain thumbs taking 1/4 of the screen and others being a thin rectangle.
Even the 'new' font for artist name and submission tittle reads ugly!!

And am talking about Classic Mode, i don't want to know how awful goes in beta or whatever!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to toggle the old layout? The new layout causes issues

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not too bad

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"Hey bro, some people are saying the site still has glitches and can't use it on mobile? Should we fix those in the next update?"

"Nah, let's just turn the gallery into a clusterfuck. People will hate it, but when we change it back, we'll buy ourselves some good will for 'listening to the users' and it'll look like we're actually doing something."

"I like the way you think!"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

...
....
........
That is probably more true than I'd care to admit

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'd love to see the 'Next 72' button be slightly smaller so that it doesn't break the row of buttons it's in. It's been driving me nuts for a long time.

I sort of like the variable layout for thumbnails, but it was certainly easier to click through to delete submissions when they were a fixed distance apart. On the other hand, now I don't have to worry about bad wordwrapping beneath the thumbnails.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Everything's incredibly cramped and busy. It's hard to differentiate images from one another and it's now even less friendly than before. Who thought this was a good idea?

I'd say I don't like it, but I think that'd be an understatement. There's little organization and there's little regard for readability.

Whoever came up with this should be ashamed. It feels very user unfriendly, and this is after I've turned names back on and increased thumbnail size. Seriously. Please revert this change.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Really missing that banner.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't mean to be rude, but this new layout is unsuitable and is garbage before my eyes. Updating this new layout to replace the old one isn't necessary because the old one is much better and much straightforward as it is.
I'm sorry, but this is truly the worst update ever.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really don't know about thisnew layout, I hate how this is a perfect 50/50 mix of 'oh hey new neat things' and 'THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE I WANT THE OLD STYLE.' I really desire an option to have the old layout.
You gotta read the nested comments of some people here, I'm asking really nicely compared to them, and we all wanna be heard.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I haven't had a chance yet to check out the other features, but I think I like what you did to my submissions page a whole lot!! Thanks for all you do for us! >:3
(I just ran across the submissions thing without reading the update first and loved it at first sight!)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Let's be fully honest here, you people never really focus on the important things to begin with. Sure, some speed was improved in the site, but you botched a perfectly reasonable and suitable system in Classic mode, and aren't even giving any reasonable thought into some of the site features that would really have done some good to this site. Things like user name changing options, blacklisting, etc. Things that the users on this site really would appreciate, so it would cut down a bit on all the alt accounts and such, among other things.

But no, I would have understood if you did this for the Beta Site, which I don't use, but no, you force it on those of us who use Classic as well. Test that stuff before you go nuts with it. I sure as heck didn't see any greenlight for this change, and I certainly would much rather prefer my Classic site to remain just that, a simple option for browsing the site without any crazy bits and bobs that I have to re-learn how to be accustomed to this site because you didn't listen and instead chose to focus on site speed and in the process, did the exact same mistake dA did before.

This UI is completely user unfriendly and a total cluster of small text, massive thumbnails, and proximity issues. This type of behavior on your part is exactly why people left for Furry Network and other sites. You essentially are playing mad scientist with those of us who like being here and like using this site over others. Stop what you think you're trying to accomplish, back up a few steps, and re-assess the situation before you screw this up even more than you already have.

Constructively, it would be more reasonable to roll this back and re-assess it. Do damage control.

If that task is too demanding for you, increase the text of the descriptions, re-code for the thumbnails so horizontal pieces aren't clickbaiting people with size alone over vertical pieces, and fix the size and structure of the UI layout. It's completely nonsensical as it stands now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Send this to the mods please, this the best argument I have seen so far!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I would if the access area to the mods wasn't offline right now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The big trouble is they know enough users will bend over and take anything they give and then defend them because they either:

1) Think FA is the heart of the fandom and if they leave furry will stop existing, and I'm not eve kidding.
2) They're doing some favor to the mods and sticking around through crappy update and crappier admin actions will make the more liked by said admins.
3) They're too inert to be willing to go to other sights and make them just as big as FA is because it would take effort to propagate there watch/user base there then here where it's already kinda cut into.

And as I said, FA knows it cause look at all the changes, systems FA does not have but other sights do, ect. that should be STANDARD for any image sigh, yet we've been waiting on for, god, over a decade? Yet we're almost what we were back then now, more or less or if something is implemented something else is taken away.

They don't 'want' to focus on the important things. That takes real time and effort to get working and concern more then pulling in money from donations (Still waiting on the ledger to show where all that money goes to FA). So let's screw around with needless things to take peoples eyes away from the real problems then fix those problems that are less important to make it seem like we are doing anything at all.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Note that Fur Affinity is not taking donations, nor has it been for quite some time.

You're welcome to disagree with the direction development takes, but talking about "pulling in money from donations" is misleading, and we'd prefer you refrained from that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"In quite some time" dose not mean it never has.

It may not be taking actively, or at very least apparent ones now, (Forgive my skepticism that you're not just because you say you're not, I've seen enough double speak and straight up lies over the years here to be un-trusting as there is no way to truly see if its true or not.) But it did at one point and we never really ever saw any information on where it all went, just told. And a look at your profile shows that you have been here as long as me, minus 3 years almost to the date, (I do not know how long of that time was as a admin) so I know you know of the time I speak of.

I understand you are doing your job right now, Damage Control is a big thing here on FA. And honestly this is the most active I've seen any one mod try and deflect a bone head choice here or activity in general, truth be told. (Was not expecting a mod of all things commenting on such a point, which, all told, is a little odd.) But we'd your user base would prefer it if you'd stop deflecting issues and make true competence changes.

Why is it taking so long to implement things that need to be fixed like a proper tagging and flagging system, more hastily handled trouble tickets, the now dysfunctional notes system, ect.

Why are you wasting time and introducing NEW problems adjusting unnecessary things that were functioning just fine, over adding these functions most other sights that offer the same basic service have and that your users want?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The issue is that your statement "They don't 'want' to focus on the important things. That takes real time and effort to get working and concern more then pulling in money from donations" implies that Fur Affinity is currently asking for and receiving donations from users. That is not the case. While I cannot force you to believe me, I don't do lies, and all I can do is tell you what I know; whether or not you believe me is up to you. Information on where the donations from the last donation drive went was made available, and I have to admit I'm not sure what you mean when you try to make a distinction between information and being told something in that context. To the best of my recollection the page that was set up for the purpose showed the amount that had gone towards given purchases/services/etc.

All I'm asking you is to refrain from implying something you have been told is not true. My job here is primarily helping users and enforcing Code of Conduct; "damage control", as you call it, matters little to me beyond that. I don't know how actively you usually check the comments on site newsposts, but I generally do try to keep an eye on them and answer questions which are within my ability to answer, so this journal is hardly outside of the norm far as that is concerned.

Ticket handling times are signinficantly down in most ticket categories, actually, and have been for a while now. I can't say what might be required for a "proper" tagging and flagging system, but please remember that such a system is only going to be as good as the data going into it, and in FA's case that's a good number of years' worth of untagged or little-tagged content. I can only really speculate as to what hurdles there might be in so far as database load and similar, but do keep in mind that functionality implemented at the inception of a new site is not always comparable, far as difficulty of implementation goes, to functionality added after the fact.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Needing to hover over images to click the check box really sucks, its slow and clumsy, need original version back thanks. I keep clicking on the image and loading it instead of clicking it to delete it so awful

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can go to any gallery page (Browse, Search, your submission inbox, any user's Gallery or Scraps...) and click the "toggle descriptions" button to get the names/titles back to displaying by default (which will also give you a larger area to click, in my understanding). When descriptions are toggled off, they will instead display on hover on desktops.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

ty so much! <3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'd love to have an option where I can go to my watchers list and delete the ones are useless to me.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Aaaand the update broke FilterAffinity.

:(

#link Posted: 2 months ago

yay unknown site change.. is there an option to use the old layout now?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Guys please, put in a revert option. The toggle description brings it back a little, but the whole point of that button was to take away the stupid thing in the corner to let you click certain submissions that didn't have a thumbnail load in correctly so you could ACCESS the stupid things in the first place, now you can't do that at all if it happens. You have to rely on getting that 1 pixel that will let you open it rather then the description box- it's stupid. Plus, WHERES MY SPACING! I'm seeing massive issues on the site now that it's not limited to 6 per row, it's literally breaking some pages for me. Please fix this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i'm sorry but the submissions layout is awful oh my god

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like the update ;)
It is much more visually appealing.

Good job guys!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This isn't Tumblr. People need to see titles and artists at a glance.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Really?
Isn't the point to encourage you to look at the work?
This does a fantastic job of that.

Artistic merit should speak on it's own. If you see a preview of an image that appeals to you, click on it.
Or, mouse over it. I'm not sure what the issue is here?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The real main issue is that both Beta and Classic users had this change forced on them. Most people who use Classic don't want the GUI changed at all. They use Classic primarily because they prefer the GUI as it is.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I use classic and this is a change that I've enjoyed so far.
But I'm clearly a minority here.

This is just much more proper of a gallery layout as an artist.
This is what I'd want my portfolio to look like.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm with you, I use classic and like the change.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I use Classic because I don't want to deal with the hassle of a buggy BETA interface. Once Beta sufficiently stable and stuff, I might give it a try.
And, well, updates are always forced on people, on about every website/software/etc, and I like the new layout.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You look at the work by CLICKING THE THUMBNAIL!!! DUH!!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You missed my point entirely.
And you're having a pretty poor attitude about it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'd agree with you other then the fact that let's say, for example, someone pops onto the sight and post an image they did not make at all, but since you can't see the name of the person you click on it because you think it's from someone else. Let's also say the person puts no information linking to the original maker, AKA, could be a commission could be someone taking someone else art. You'd never really know unless you actually knew the artist before hand.

It's depersonalizing as your kinda striping the artist from the piece Making the final product more important then the person who made it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can toggle title and artist submission with a single button :)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thank you, someone that gets it. Being able to see the artist and image title is critical.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can, but why is it the default to disassociate as standard? It also dose not actually 'fix' the problem as it makes the tiles messy and the font weirdly space and the title cut off.

It's a case of it it's not broken, don't fix it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Everyone is entitled to their preference.
I prefer the direction that it's going.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We can agree to disagree on this point then.

Tho I will close with it's nice to have someone that dose not see eye to eye with you not reduce it to grade school name calling here. For that I thank you.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Of course!
Cheers

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I can't click on some because they're so narrow it's impossible to actually get the mouse over them. Imagine what that does to the poor artist's exposure?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Please revert back to the original or at least make a option to switch between the new version and old one it's obvious that people perfer the old version

Can't you guys just do ud this one salad? Please?!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Okay, gallery images are fine, but the descriptions... why in hell did that go to a monospaced font instead of Veranda like the rest of the site?!? That just breaks design AND kills the space you have to fill with information.

GHAHH.

One more fix to Stylish...

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Refreshed, seems they added a bit more spacing between images, good good.
Still rather like fixed amounts per row, vertical rows can get way too crowded now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is very upsetting....do you all truly ask us what we think before randomly implimenting things? I greatly enjoy how this site was before. Its easy to use and very organized....now its complicating...and too noisy.

Please....im not trying to cause fuss...how can i have it how it was originally...i dont want to stop using FA as much as this is my only outlet for my involvement in this community.....

Please, what do I do?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Actually I don't like the weird symbols next to links on our profiles and journals. Why was that needed?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

FA users ask for change for years
they finally get change
they hate the change

what am I missing here

#link Posted: 2 months ago

They're changing the wrong things. Breaking things that were working well enough. The change people want is stuff like the tag systems, or for the longest while those folders we now finally have. They don't seem to listen to what the users actually want changed and that is the underlying issue.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wanted good change and have it tested prior to launch.
Not getting a rushed UI that's nonsensically bad that is forced on everyone, Beta and Classic users alike.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You're missing the fact that "change" is not a blanket thing. We asked for certain helpful things, not for useless changes that hinder everyday use of the site.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What's being hindered? I did read that submission deleting is hard ( I don't have any atm so I can't test it) So I suppose that is a problem but everything else is a submission layout swap as far as I can see ?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Classic users don't want the GUI changed, that's the beta people... they should bother them with eye-bleeding visuals over functionality.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I do use classic , the only thing i get out of this is the fact that everything just looks like FN to a T (on beta at least when i looked)
It's not really affecting how I do things on classic though so I guess I'm not really as upset as everyone else

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I get a headahce over the overabundance of stuff onscreen at one time, which really makes it hard to do extended use of the site.

Which I think confounds as "hinder". Unless browsing one page of an artists submissions at a time before having to take a break was some kind of intended change to make me invest less time in finding new artists.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't know if it helps but the best anyone could do is throw it at...24 submissions per page i think when browsing a gallery
you probably already did that though o<-< sorry for the headache

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah, having to heavily reduce images per page just to cope with the changes is the opposite of progress to me.

But they *just* (about 30m ago or so?) actually added spacing inbetween images so maybe there's hope yet.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Who exactly was asking for this change?

Who was asking for "change the thumbnail layout so it's all mashed together and hide artist name and submission name" ?

We've been asking for actually useful things like tag/keyword filtering, which almost every other gallery site on the internet already has, yet FA still lacks.

FA's site functionality is stuck in 2003. All of these updates are adding shit nobody asked for, or if it is something people asked for, it's dumb shit like "hidden favorites".

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to toggle the layout back to classic? I don't like this update. D:

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Giant cluster. This new update is the worst thing I could have come back to after a migraine. It makes it super inconvenient for anyone who has more than ten artists they follow. I get about 1,200 submissions in a week... I can't keep up with this awful new update. I don't use beta for a reason. at least give an option to put it back

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ah, yes, lets focus on 'fixing' something that wasn't even broken to begin with. Fuck the archaic, disorganized mess that are watch and comment notifications. Lets just ignore the notes system that was 'updated!' a while back that made organizing it even MORE difficult, since you can't view the history of every message sent, and only the last message sent. Or, using this very page as a prime example, the chaotic clusterfuck that is the comments system.

Nope. Just gonna push a non-optional update that fucks over people that have smaller thumbnails and flash animations, and apparently mobile users too. Did I mention it makes it impossible to ctrl+f to search for things? All this, just so people think we're still trying actually maintain the site.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

If you toggle descriptions back on using the button near the top of any page with a gallery view, you should be able to use Ctrl+F to find particular content on a page again.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

*updated*
By adding this neat-o "hover-over-image-to-see-title-and-artist" feature, we have effectively COMPLETELY disabled your ability to ctrl+f anything in your gallery, favorites, or new submissions.

You're welcome.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"toggle descriptions" for titles

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Guys, I sent a ticket to staff telling them how I felt. It seems we have a much better chance if a lot of us sent tickets in complaining about the layout. I advise you stay civil though, even though I know we have dealt with a lot from them, we still need to keep level heads.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Galleries feel cramped

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeaaaah this is garbage. Please roll back. Holy crap does this make my watch list just terrible, can't see artist or title at a glance, no clue if things are part of a sequence, or stream announce or w/e. an interface which reduces the amount of information instantly available is garbage. You've broken something that wasn't broken. Seriously, go back.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

THIS ^^^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Btw, to send in a ticket. Go the top, look for the "My FA" tab/thingy and in the drop box is an option to report a problem. I would say this a Site layout isssue or an other.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

thank you very much I sent one in.

for anyone interested this is what I sent in:

I follow 274 artists, a majority of which submit art very regularly and some even just dumping mass submissions after completing many pieces. As a result, I get around 1200 submissions a week from the artists I follow... the new layout makes it impossible for me to keep up with the constant income of submissions.(I have classes and a life outside the furry fandom unfortunately) A friend raised the question to me "can't just nuke em?" No. I found and watched these artists because I WANT to see what they create. I WANT to support their work and favorite nice pieces. The new submission layout makes it hard to do this. This is the main reason I use FA... this is becoming a hassle.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yes thats great! Wee need to get more people to send in tickets!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

^^^ THISTHISTHIS.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We are not just asking for the title descriptions and boxes back. We want the grid alignment back and the pictures to be resized. You guys never should have messed with the Classic site;

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'd certainly like the option of being able to go back to the old style. I really seems like this format wasn't planned out and voted for appropriately. Something this big of a format change really should be left up to the community as a vote. Not just releasing it (not saying a word to anyone outside of the Website Tech Team) and leaving a weeks worth of issues to be fixed later.

if this were actually a business, holl-lee-shit.

I mean honestly, just changing a UI format and thinking it'll make things better while there are much more important site issues is really irresponsible and shows the lack of care about ongoing issues this site has had throughout the years.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

^^^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I agree!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And remember people, when Sofurry was STILL called 'Yiffstar' ages ago, they had a proper tagging and block system.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I miss Yiffstar so much... Sofurry took everything that was nice with Yiffstar and threw it into the nearest trash compactor... I miss Yiffstar and it's lovely tagging system...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nice improvements!

ALSO, please please PLEASE re-add the "remove selected" button to the top of the Beta submissions page.

I'm often surfing on my phone, and remove pics I'm not going to look at throughout the day, while saving others for checking on my PC when I get home. It sucks if I check in, and there's like 10 pics I want to remove.......... and then I have to scroll past the other 38 to delete them. :^)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I highly doubt the mods will read any comments down here. go send tickets or notes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Guys toggle descriptions if u want the check boxes back!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Its not just the check boxes. I want my smaller organized icons back. My non cluttered gallery, and non smooshed updates.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's the best we've got if we want to delete submissions without hovering over an image

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I always just do select all / delete... individual tagging each one always was a bother, before they made it even worse now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Having an issue where looking at images I haven't previously loaded causes them to disappear in full-view mode. Trying to look at new pieces from other artists and just.. can't. Also, adding comments doesn't show my comment once submitted, even with refreshing.

EDIT: the comment issue seems to be with replying to comments, not posting fresh ones.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

sry....but no. dont like it. its one big mess now. it looks so unorganized. anyway to make this an option? an option to be able to go back to how it once was?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

^ this

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Coming from somebody who keeps fa in a half screen tab, the update looks clustered and messy.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like tacos too.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

please tell me there's some way to turn back on the ability to see titles? ESPECIALLY when following comics, sometimes the title tells me WHICH comic the thumbnail is for if it's hard to tell. I really dont see the good in removing the titles from the bottom of submissions. I can't be the only one thinking this right?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Click on "toggle descriptions" (of course with long vertical comics the title probably gets cut off and still needs to be hovered over)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

well that at least helps a little...
still looks cluttered as hell though...not a fan...
thanks for the help though! :3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like the new gallery layout!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Don't just complain here. Send in a ticket about these issues. They tech were meant for that. So we can complain if a bug or layout feature is not working.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Tickets have a bad rep of being ignored too.
I have tickets that are months old and have never been fixed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

With descriptions enabled on the submissions page, I see several titles are now cutoff.

Some examples:

MFF badge: Justin the...
YCH Commission - The ...

It did not do this before. Can you please take a look into this and fix?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Send in a Ticket. Probably would get an answer.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I hope there is a way to make it so that you just have to click on the image you want to check-mark as to remove from your submission inbox. If I have to continually just click on the tiny, nearly non-see-able box, then I just wont care or even clean out my submission inbox. It was easy to do by just clicking on an area down below it, but now its tedious. : <

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can go to any gallery page (Browse, Search, your submission inbox, any user's Gallery or Scraps...) and click the "toggle descriptions" button to get the names/titles back to displaying by default, which will also restore the ability to click the area below the submission to select it. When descriptions are toggled off, they will instead display on hover on desktops.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've been doing this, but now its way easier to accidentally click on the name of the post (As they all have different sized clickable boxes now) and end up having all the things I've selected be un-selected because of it, which never happened before. : < Still prefer the old version.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Where is the profile???

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I have found a bug on the beta, where before if you selected something in your Submissions then click on one of the pictures then go back, it has the image you had selected, now not selected and some random image further down the list is now selected even tho you never selected it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've never really cared for gallery layouts like this. Is there a way to set it back to grid?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wtf did you do to submissions?! They don't have the titles anymore! WHY DID YOU DO THIS CHANGE IT BACK

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can mouse-over for a description or toggle them on yourself by clicking the toggle description button.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yes I found it but why on earth did you change the gallery layout? I liked it way better the way it was before. It looked more appealing when it was like that. The new one is just...not good

#link Posted: 2 months ago

but it still trims off some of the longer titles. The toggle feature doesn't fix that

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Don't forget the horrid new font.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I haven't . It is so thin it is hard to read. My eyesight isn't the best an this new font just makes reading the titles even harder

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's just like DeviantArt. It was waaaay better the way it was before.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

* Reworked the "Toggle Descriptions" mode to display submission title and artist name on mouseover (gallery tile mode), and made it the default mode across the site. All pages that contain galleries also have the "Toggle Descriptions" button available to switch between the modes when necessary.

Can this be switched? I don't understand why the default setting presents less information.

Personally, I preferred the orderliness of the previous display of thumbnails.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same here! Or I preferred what the site was before the changes or "fixes"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

and why does the update trim off the titles under the pics?
You can't even see the whole title anymore. What is the point of that?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

In your next update, change what happens when you block somebody on their end. Make it so that blocking somebody removes you from their watch list so they cannot follow you, and also prevents them from being able to view your profile and anything you submit entirely. I'm tired of people in my block list being able to follow me on here, and when I post a journal or god forbid a submission they get their buddies to come after me. There's really no reason this isn't standard in the first place. If you're at the point where you want to restrict people from contacting you completely, it should be assumed you don't want them to be able to see what you submit either.

In your next update, change what happens when you block somebody on their end. Make it so that blocking somebody removes you from their watch list so they cannot follow you, and also prevents them from being able to view your profile and anything you submit entirely. I'm tired of people in my block list being able to follow me on here, and when I post a journal or god forbid a submission they get their buddies to come after me. There's really no reason this isn't standard in the first place. If you're at the point where you want to restrict people from contacting you completely, it should be assumed you don't want them to be able to see what you submit either.

I made this in two different colors, for any mods that use the lighter themes. I want it to stand out.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

^^^^

letting your users get harassed ISN'T OKAY FA!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There are implications with such blocking behavior that could themselves be used for trolling/abuse (or hiding inappropriate behavior from a harassment target), so it's not quite so simple. If you see evidence of someone actively soliciting others to harass you, you are of course welcome to report that and we will address the situation accordingly.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Because the mods do such a good job banning trolls

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We take action according to policy when policy violations are reported to us. What these actions are depends on a number of factors, and is generally dependent on evidence being available to us. I'm sorry if you're dissatisfied with your experiences.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Unless you're popular then you can troll all you want. I'm dissatisfied because some people get away with attacking others.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is not the case at all, and if you feel this has happened you are welcome to open a dispute ticket to plead your case. I can't guarantee that you will receive an outcome you are satisfied with, but it is possible we may be able to explain some of the circumstances better to help you see why particular action was or was not taken in the situation you feel was not handled appropriately.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Been there and done that, four times and guess what? The person was allowed to troll when should've been banned. Also when are the thumbs going to have a uniform option so they are like they used to be before the submission page was puked on?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I had three people on my block list on here because they were harassing me. I was on their watch list for several months, meaning that I could not post content on this website and I was forced to visit other websites where they could not follow or see my content. You're putting them with the advantage, because if they are soliciting people to harass others there's no way to prove it. I really want to see what you would consider to be 'trolling/abuse/hiding inappropriate behavior from the harassment target', when preventing, ie, you from seeing what I post if I blocked you would prevent you from stalking me. Which is what these people still following me is doing. Stalking me. And you are condoning this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I understand that in your case, there are legitimate reasons why you would like the blocking behavior you describe. It's just an unfortunate truth of the situation for a large website like FA that we have to consider all potential use cases, including misuse. Some of that Dragoneer and I discussed with another user on Twitter a while back - you can see that discussion here - that conversation only pertained to forcing unwatching on block, however.

If you also prevent a blocked user from seeing the blocker's profile, you also run into issues where one individual could e.g. write libelous journals about someone they've blocked, and that user would not be able to report them because they couldn't see the journal - that's what I mean by hiding inappropriate behavior from a target. This is something we would have to work out how it would be prevented/handled if it did happen before implementing any such system.

Again, if you do see evidence of someone soliciting people to harass you, that's definitely reportable - that includes passing on messages for users you've blocked. We are in no way condoning stalking behavior, we simply do not have a functionality you feel would resolve your situation.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Then instate a protocol to monitor the times a certain user is blocked and unblocked. On other websites, like DeviantArt, if you block and unblock the same person enough times you wind up getting attention from the site adminsitrators. Seriously, your argument is just full of crap, because you're linking me to Twitter, one of the websites I mentioned that restricts blocked people from seeing your content, and Dragoneer himself is not helping your case. It pretty much takes the threat of legal action to force him not to dodge the question. The issue of libelous journals is the fault of your team, because you don't take second-hand abuse reports. I can't even tell you how many times I've come across slander and libel of somebody else on here, but I couldn't report it because your team doesn't care unless John Doe reports it himself. So what? There's an easy fix for that: Take second-hand abuse reports. I realize that's difficult, because it actually means doing moderation work, but that's how you maintain a community. By doing the job.

'We are in no way condoning stalking behavior...' Do you know what Implied Consent is? Because you doing nothing regarding this does say you are condoning it. I know because I have a big ass waiver on my profile that enacts implied consent just by viewing my artwork to cover my ass on your shady website.

Who are you trying to protect? The people being harassed, or the people doing the harassing?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

well said. You tell 'em!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I know I'm late to the party here but I would like to weigh in with thoughts

I have several profiles blocked on my account (multiples of the same person, which I know for certain but cannot prove, therefore they cannot be taken down by FA admins)

I would prefer that the blocking option mean that they cannot see my page at all, but I can still see theirs. That way, if I suspected they were to write journals specifically about me, I would be able to see and report them.

Even if the blocking option meant that neither profile could see each other, I would still prefer that (and run the risk of journals etc being written about me) than use this site knowing that they can still see everything I submit and write. This thought does make me very uncomfortable and to be honest, is a large part of why I don't post as much as I would like.

Also, it seems (from what I have seen) that admin are rather hot on targeting, removing and temporarily banning users for posting journals that are written negatively about specific individuals...surely this would be picked up on if the blocker wrote a defamatory journal about the user they blocked?

I know I can't generalise here, but I know that once I block someone, that's it. I want it over and done with. I do not feel the need to revisit that person, or write about them, or think about them. I just want the block to be entire and final.

Do you foresee the way blocking works changing at all in the future, or will it stay as a "can't comment or message you" sort of deal?

Thanks~

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I absolutely understand that there are very valid reasons to want someone blocked from viewing your profile, and I'm not trying to trivialize your concerns. It's something that would be tricky implementation-wise (if your profile is not blocked from guest access, the user could log out to view it, what if anything should be done about that? How about them creating another account to view the profile? And so on.), and a lot of the questions it brings up probably don't have any easy answers.

There are also users who are less restrictive in their use of the block function - which is their right - and completely restricting access to their content and profiles to users they've blocked when all they want is to not receive communication from those users might be more than they really want. Possibly not a major concern in the context, but something that also should be factored in. (I mean, though I'm restrictive with blocking people, I personally wouldn't even care if the few people on my block list could fav my content or add me to their watch list, either, I just prefer not hearing from them. If they were to decide they liked my art and wanted to fav it, good for them!)

Also, it seems (from what I have seen) that admin are rather hot on targeting, removing and temporarily banning users for posting journals that are written negatively about specific individuals...surely this would be picked up on if the blocker wrote a defamatory journal about the user they blocked?

Only if it's been reported to us, really. If getting away with badmouthing people was as easy as blocking the target and/or people you suspect from past experience to be inclined to report you, it's likely there'd be a lot more of those journals going around. In theory it might be possible (speaking from my own programming/developer experience, not from a position of particular insight into FA's code specifically) to e.g. have the system detect if a journal you post while you have me on your block list contains "quoting_mungo" or "quotingmungo" and automatically flag that journal as suspicious, but it's something that would take a good chunk of coding time and possibly also take up excessive amounts of staff time to investigate those automatic reports.

I can't say whether there might be future changes to the block function; it's something that'll likely come up for discussion among staff from time to time, and if we can find a suitable, minimally-abusable option, it's not outside the realm of possibility. I don't believe it's in the cards in the very near future, though, as there are other things in the works that take precedence.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Still can't click the '1S', '3J', etc. On mobile because the "Log Out" button is wrapping the screen and blocking it. Also, I still can't favorite things on mobile, the button is still missing.

(Chrome on 7" Android tablet)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really don;t like the way the submissions are changed here.

While I can admire clearer and possibly bigger thumbnail pics, I can;t really see the title of each one, and not to mention, eliminates the link that directly leads to the Artist's page. I appreciate the previous design and layout before the changes or update.

This update makes it more difficult to track what submission your finding in Search and Browsing, it looks pretty unappealing and unorganized.

Have the submissions in a grid, and what they were before this update. I disapprove this change, it's unneeded and like it the way it was before.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

BUG REPORT:
- Now, after ticking a bunch of submissions, clicking on another one and coming back, it doesn't keep in memory the submissions that were selected and doesn't keep them ticked like before.

Comment on change:
The tick button is now a bit small and if missed even slightly, it causes the forementionned bug because it forces to visit the submission's page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

why is it so fucking bright and cramped ?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't like this. I don't like that I have to mouse over the thumbnail to see the artist's name. It also makes it harder to tick boxes for removal without accidentally clicking the thumbnail.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I found the toggle descriptions option under My FA> Page management > Submissions and I can deal with this now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

YES!
this is agreeable

#link Posted: 2 months ago

but it still trims off longer titles.
If the title is longer than the thumbnail is wide, it gets cut off.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why is the comment bar at the bottom of the journal instead of the bottom of the page?

Also, is there any chance in the future to implement support of transparent png images? They look so nasty in the thumbnail with a white background...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Still looking for Email Notifications for Comments and Notes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i never noticed it changed im not the one to see minor things

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i never noticed it changed im not the one to see minor things

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There is WAY too much going on in the Submissions page now, it looks very clunky and cluttered.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

A change I would like to see is a name change without changing accounts, is this possible? I would pay money to be able to switch my name and not have to go to the hassle of notifying all my watchers.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's not currently possible, and would take a substantial amount of back-end changes to be made viable without breaking things. We understand it's something users want, and it's definitely on our wishlist for future development, but other things are currently higher on the list.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Like breaking mobile functionality!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And making dumb cosmetic changes a Majority of the users don't want.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

User galleries, I love it there, but front page I wish It was still small. It feels a little cluttered with all that information, thats my initial take, im sure id grow to like it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Weee! Riding the endless sea of comments and getting lost in all of them!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Love the update on Beta. Sorry to hear so many classic users are having issues, but on beta I really love the new thumbnail system.

I hope we get the banner back at the top and the top ads get moved back up. Me and my friends who have FA ads have noticed a dip in traffic since they were removed from the top banner and it's really sad.

Also missing the floating bar when scrolling @A@!

Regardless thanks so much for the update, looking forward to more!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can you undo changing the Submission Title into a link to the submission itself?
I cannot tell you how many times I've accidentally clicked on the submission title while trying to select something for removal, and ended up going to the submission, instead of selecting it.

Also I liked the large border around the entire submission you've selected in the old layout.
Only highlighting the artist/title makes it difficult to tell what I've selected when you've got 50+ submissions on one page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Too cluttered...spacing is...gah!

It's a good direction, but, it literally hurts to look at, even with toggled descriptions.

On a sidenote, I'd actually like to see REPORT BUTTON, as I'm sick and tired of seeing NSFW images in SFW MODE. I realize some things happen, but this is a basic feature you guys should have.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can always go to My FA > Report a Problem to file a Trouble Ticket. Just make sure you copy the submission URL first, so you can include it in the ticket.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Or you can stop fixing things that aren't broken, and actually fix what is.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yea, certainly. But that's cumbersome. And the last trouble ticket I filed, for art theft on FA, took over a year to get resolved. :P

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I understand we've had periods with varying degrees of ticket backlog, and that is absolutely less than ideal, no argument there. The amount of time required to deal with different types of tickets varies, and not all staff handle all types of tickets. Tickets reporting misrated submissions are typically dealt with quite promptly, though.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Last time I did that, the mod who dealt with it chastised me. Said 3rd party reports are frowned upon. Whatever the hell that means.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I assure you the response you received was not intended as chastisement. Unfortunately for some types of issues it can sometimes be much more difficult to verify violation/infringement if they are reported by someone other than the injured party (in the case of copyright infringement, that'd be the original artist), and we try to inform users of this when handling tickets it applies to.

The best thing you can do, if the artist is on FA, is to privately inform them, and let them report the violation. That also reduces the number of duplicate reports on our end.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

If solid evidence is provided by the person doing the reporting then why does the source of said information matter? If the evidence is solid then it's obviously not trolling or harassment so it should be acted on. I definitely understand and support investigating all cases to make sure that the report hasn't simply been filed out of spite or with libellous intent (and acting against the reporter if that is the case) but art theft and plagiarism are inexcusable in a community that thrives and literally survives on the creativity and hard work of its members. I mean, this is people's livelihoods that we're talking about. All cases of plagiarism and art theft should therefore be dealt with severely regardless of the source of the evidence as would happen on literally any other art or media hosting site. The only reason not to ban someone that's plagiarising is if a) the evidence turns out to be false or unverifiable or b) you're condoning the theft. And in the furry community I've never yet seen a report of art theft that turned out to be fake.

When it comes to supporting our artists, the furry fandom stands as a solid whole. I really cannot fathom why FA won't stand beside us.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You're not seeing nearly as many edge cases as we do. There are multiple reasons why the source could make a difference, and I'm not going to go into every one of them - many of them concern permissions which obviously only the copyright holder can verify. You are treating this as a binary black/white issue when the reality is that there are many shades of gray that fall under the same set of rules.

There is absolutely no need to create a false dichotomy to support your point.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well, could you please give some examples of said reasons? Saying "reasons exist" doesn't really answer the question that I asked which was what those reasons were.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also, I can definitely understand talking to the copyright holder. That should be part of any investigation into plagiarism. But that still doesn't answer the question of why you won't accept a report from someone other than the copyright holder and take the initiative to contact the holder rather than just ignoring the report.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Reports by third parties are not ignored - we look into them, but we also inform the reporter that first party reports are preferred because our options for investigation and enforcement are limited when we receive third party reports. When the original artist is on FA, helping them report the violation themselves will also help them deal with future infringement a lot more than reporting things on their behalf.

As we can't restore removed content, it's important that we can be confident that there is valid basis for removal. The best way to accomplish this is for the copyright holder to make the report.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

But what would the report button even be good of? For people to abuse? If you see NSFW in SFW mode then simply dont click on it or look at it. Not that hard imo. A good chunk of artist here to make thumbnails to warn folks, and for others who dont, its very obvious to avoid it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The fact of the matter here is that people shouldn't have to view it when they're in SFW mode, period. Not only is it against the rules, but there are minors here, not to mention that I'm sure there are adults who might be browsing in SFW mode who come across things children should not see, or are browsing in locations where SFW is a must. Abiding by the rules isn't abuse, and calling it out isn't, either. The point of the SFW option is to make it SFW. Not to mention that FA can be in hot water if adult content is marked as general audience. This isn't just about simply browsing past and not looking. There's a much bigger picture here than that.

By submitting things, you agree to FA's ToS. You have a responsibility to know what those rules are, and follow them. I'm not saying that they should be punished or banned automatically, but there should be a way to report images. Having a report button could also be used for art theft, spam accounts, etc, and overall, is a good idea. The ticket system is not really good enough for this. FA's staff can't catch everything, and by helping, as a community, we can prevent theft, spam, and keep FA in accordance with government laws.

If people are abuse the system, they can be banned, and it's as simple as that. Repercussions for such behavior can be easily dealt with. Report button or not, people can still use the ticket system, but it is, as I said before, it's inefficient.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I just want a taco button.

Either way, i dont really care much about either system if implemented or fixed. Ticket system was never reliable. And having a report button technically is still a ticket system that Mods have to check on. Otherwise, you really can stop people from what they see is deemed SFW or NSFW. Besides,a huge percentage of FA is technically just porn anyhow.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i dont like this update cause i have a plugin with google chrome FA previver and FA notify that no longer work, i also dont like how i have to mousel over images to see who its by and the title.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This does not fix the entire problem. Please actually read what we are saying!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And they don't work at all on mobile.

And the spacing is still so bad I cancel even make out wtf I'm even looking at.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Are you actually reading these comments, especially the ones who are offering solid feedback and suggestions, or are you just skimming over these?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Judging by the same reply being copy pasted, this is a shit attempt at damage control.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I will admit I was doing some degree of speed-reading this morning, being that I had to head out to an appointment with my physical therapist. My priority at the time was to try to catch all or most of the users whose issues could potentially be helped by toggling descriptions back on, and making sure they knew that was an option.

I am now going through and reading all of the comments more closely. I'm not part of the UI development staff, so most of what I can do is still going to be offering advice on available site functions, however.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh man this is a bit disorienting. Would there be any option to enable the old grid layout? This new justified layout makes it hard to keep track of where you are in the rainbow that is the fandom. It's hard to sift through all this visual information. Also makes skimming over the unsavory artwork more difficult as you have to examine each thumbnail more closely to see if it is interesting or more often displeasing to my taste.

In addition, it no longer displays the username link under each picture which is a pain for a mobile user who wants to quickly go to the artist's page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

BUT IT doesn't turn off the resource consuming bullshit, it just hides it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I would strongly enjoy the option for the old layout, or at least a way to have descriptions on by default. Really. Its one click extra click every page that doesn't really need to be there.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Now that the toggle description is sticking for me, I hate it much less.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like the original format of the submission page where you could select under the link to select the submissions. Now it's just a check mark. It takes a bit longer to remove submissions i've already seen. I sorta like the old grid look tbh

:/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agree!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Great, now stories are going to be ignored even more. x3 I rarely put my two cents in on site design but I really don't like the new thumbnail system...especially the part about how default thumbnails for stories are no longer even comparable to the size of most other thumbnails.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This. The default story thumbnails are so small you can't actually read the titles on many submissions. That's going to be yet another strike against authors on the site. Titles are how you catch the attention of your audience.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I understand your position, and thought I'd share some of what (in my experience) works to capture an audience: http://forums.furaffinity.net/threa.....-on-fa.1611055

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You know what works to capture an audience? Not hiding content from them.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I appreciate the time you took to respond to me.

That might be something to share with Lapsa directly, however, as I stopped posting my content on Furaffinity some time ago. I was simply acknowledging her point as it was one I had also noted and didn't want her to think she was alone.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

With all due respect, I understand that coding is not an easy task by any means and that website design is difficult and oftentimes frustrating. Despite this I feel that its kind of the responsibility of FA not to only the community, but itself to strive to make the site equally welcoming to all artists - visual or otherwise.

The size disparity of the images is not an issue you can sweep under the rug and pin onto the users themselves. With the current setup it is nearly impossible to see non-visual art even with descriptions on. There is no way to compete with visual artists who automatically are given thumbnails that sometimes reach half the size of an entire row.

I think it would be pretty sad if FA became a visual only haven due to a site design oversight, with writers and musicians even more marginalized than they are now. I really hope that you all decide to fix the issue, perhaps changing the default thumbnails you give to submissions to something bigger at least?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Improving/restoring custom thumbnail functionality and increasing default non-visual submissions' thumbnails is definitely in the works, and my intent was in no way to attempt to brush aside the concern of the size disparity. It's something we know to be an issue and it will be seen to. I don't work with the code/design end myself, so I can't tell you when it'll be ready to be rolled out, just that it's top priority for development right now.

Rather, I was trying to offer an option that will give potential readers more than just title to base their decision on, when browsing writing, by sharing my experiences with posting writing, in response to LadyDarkSphynx's statement "Titles are how you catch the attention of your audience." Even if the default thumbnail gets larger, it'll still stand out less and potentially offer less information than a custom one.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It would at least be status quo pre change.

But I do appreciate your response and I eagerly await being able to post my stories to FA once more! Writing and game design is currently the two things I'm doing to make money right now, it is a lot harder when no one can see YCHs I post.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really dislike the new thumbnails personally, it looks more messy and it's harder to get a quick view of the drawings,.. I would like to be able to switch back to like before, please an add option for this. :(

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well other people using it hurts you too, as an artist, unless you use massive thumbnails. People that use normal thumbnail sizes are now going to be marginalized compared to those that use massive ones. This change hurts the whole spectrum of art producers.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Once again, the top header does not follow you when you scroll down as it did with the old beta. Please bring this back. Having to scroll up to the top of the site is really majorly stupid.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Please bring back the old look or at least make it an option.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yes! We really should be able to chosse between visual layout designs.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I just really wanted to say that I am displeased with how the submission notification page looks like. This new one is worse than the last. I dislike how most every comission has it's own size, It messes with the resolution. I hate how the checkmark is now above and overshadowing the immage. Makes me mad to see such pointless updates/downgrades.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Each one having their own size also favors artists that use larger thumbnails over those that don't.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

For the love of god, under the messages/submissions give the options show from only one user.

And it was far better, when the select boxes where under the icon's.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Honestly, this update is a huge mess. the fact that the site is now even more of a pain to use while on a mobile device is a step backwards. The desktop version of the site is messy and a bit of a pain to use. Having Users have to enable a setting like the Descriptions and such should never of been a thing. It was there for a reason, now it is even more of a hassle to people to view the site. Looking at galleries is now far more of a pain as well. The automated resizing of the images to window size also messes with resolution of pictures. FA Staff, I do not know what you are trying to do but if you want to know how a site is meant to be run, Look at SoFurry 1.0 or SoFurry 2.0 That is how you code a site, not this. You can;t even filter between music, Stories, and images. THIS is an update you should work on. Make finding content easier by allowing filters, Add a Black list system.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

My biggest complaint is that it's too fiddly to select and delete individual submissions. The entire image is a hyperlink, and the title of the submission is also a hyperlink, so while trying to hit the checkbox I often accidentally open the submission when I just wanted to select it. That's very fiddly!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This was a mistake

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Holy hell, make the site harder to use why don't you.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I would really like the ability to see tags without having to open up the image/story. There's some things I just don't want to be subjected to. Mind you, I got no problem with others having fun with it, if that's what floats your boat, but I want to be able to avoid the squick-buttons without having to open up the document and be subjected to them just to see the tag list.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Erm... nope. Just nope. Who thoguht this was a good idea? The new galery is just... urgh. And I see I'm not the only one

If I wanted the agllery to be like that, i'd be using the beta... or weasyl

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Personally I do not like the change and here is why.
Perhaps I am the only person who does this, but the search results are a nightmare now.

I'll admit it is a little cool that artwork can show up with better resolution, but in my opinion the purpose of thumbnails was to generate interest in the artwork so if a user is interested in seeing the whole image they would click on it to see the official submission. Maybe some people thought is was a hassle, but it never bothered me. (Although I did use "Open in new tab" to avoid losing search results). This change I could probably live with.

The real problem comes from browsing stories. Since thumbnails can only tell part of the story, I often browse story titles. But now the titles are not displayed unless the thumbnail is moused over. This is a major inconvenience as I now must mouse over every story just to see the title. Also with the aforementioned issue where story thumbnails are too small, sometimes you cannot even see the full title of the story.

I also agree that having the check boxes only appear on mouse over is annoying, although I could probably live with it if I had to.

I have not checked the submission page, so I have no comment there.

I'll admit I am not a web page designer so I do not know how hard it would be, but I agree with people saying to make both options available, that way people who like the new format can pick it, and people who are displeased can stay with the old one.

In short, I feel that this update may be beneficial to artist, but is detrimental to writers and other forms of art. I feel the simplest way to alleviate this would be to show the titles again, even if you keep the resolution changed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Okay I read some other posts, and found out about the "Toggle Descriptions" button. So that helps. But I think I was not the only person who was confused by this.
Also some of title are still cut off way shorter than they used to, and some of the text is clipped like the bottom of the letter 'g'.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

In the absence of any kind of user image blacklist, the only way I ever found to keep certain users and their reprehensible work off my screen was to create custom AdBlock Plus filters that hide any thumbnail image containing their usernames. Not only does this changeover break all of my existing filters, but these new thumbnails do not contain usernames at all, meaning that I cannot create new filters in their place. This being the case, I must beg you to either change the thumbnail naming system back to one that uses usernames, or to implement some kind of artwork filter to hide art from specific users, like those SoFurry and Inkbunny have had for years now, so that I can maintain peace of mind while using FA, which is otherwise my preference among the three sites.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Same here. :( I don't know if it helps you, but the only solution I've found is to have a bookmarked search and edit it to filter out artists I want to hide the work of. (It doesn't help that FA, of course, doesn't actually show the query string in the address bar when you search, so most people wouldn't even know where to start on bookmarking a search.)

Here's an example of how to do it:

http://www.furaffinity.net/search/?q=-unwanted_tag -unwanted_artist -another_unwanted_artist

#link Posted: a month ago

I thought I'd mention, friend, that since I left that comment, I've found an alternative that works even better than my original method. It's a user script for a Firefox add-on called "Greasemonkey", and the script can be found right here: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/7.....content-filter

This one lets you block thumbnails by username, and even throws in comments, shouts, and notifications, too. Very handy! :D

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well this is shit.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I bet no one will read this, but I don't get why the picture preview is gone from the beta submission page.

Writting a proper description, or even adding fitting tags is made a pain in the ass because there's no preview of the picture you're posting.

Funnily enough, classic overlay has it, please FIX THIS. You're forcing me to go back to the classic mode when I prefer the beta one :/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

lol, looks bad
now people can REALLY see pictures of fetishes they dislike on the front page!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

some things that annoy me about the recent update:

story submissions which dont have thumbnails you can't even read the titles of them in this new system when you mouse over them. as a former writer myself, i know that making the extra effort to make a thumbnail isnt something everyone likes to or should have to do just so people can read the titles and information.

FA, y'all either need to make the base "story" default submission image thumbnail bigger so the title, description, and writer information can be read, or figure some way to expand that text beyond the size of the default image.

to be perfectly honest, i preferred the older system of viewing submissions where the submission title and username were visible just below each individual submission, and i do not like the jumbled-up art collages on the browser pages with no space in between submissions, and that i have to physically mouse over each thing to get the title and username.

is there a way to voice these concerns directly to FA staff somewhere that doesnt involve Twitter or anything like that? its not really the sort of deal i would send a trouble ticket about i think, just observations, the updates make browsing through art on this site less streamlined for me is all.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Go to "My FA > Page Settings > Submissions", and use the "show descriptions" button. It turns it on for the whole site. WHY it's there, I have no clue, but I spent almost 20 minutes hunting it down. Makes the new layout marginally more user-friendly.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

ohhh found it and applied it, i will journal this around so other people know it, Thank you! ^_^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Changing the default story/music submission thumbnail sizes is definitely something we're going to be doing - we understand this update really highlights how awkward the tiny thumbnails for those submissions are.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

How about you just turn it back to the way it was. You know, working and not literally 100% unusable.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there an option to choose the old version of the gallery? I don´t really like that update.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I do enjoy the update, but can you please implement a tag filter/blacklist? So we can filter specific tags of fetishes for example, that we don't want to see?

I know there is a chrome add on: but it's obsolete and does not filter tags.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ugggh the new thumbnails are horrible, PLEASE let people go back to the old way with the checkbox BELOW the image.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The new thumbnail system hurts artists, instead of letting people go back they should just switch it back for everyone.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah it's really hard to see, and really hard to clear my inbox.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Now how about a, toggle spacing that allows you to read without wanting to throw up like you're on a bus because nothing at all is lined up?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

OK, seriously!!!

Is there EVER going to be a proper filtering system on this site?!

Block submissions with keyword "scat"
Block submissions from user "X"

ANYTHING?!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

^This

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh great, you broke the Filter Affinity plugin for firefox

#link Posted: 2 months ago

For Chrome too. I swear, I'm about ready to leave this fucking site until this is fixed!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

really hope y'all make an option to have thumbnails go back to how they originally were or create a blacklist feature.

I was already hesitant with opening FA in public areas, now I think I'm never going too 😂

ALSO have to agree with others, I loved having a small thumbnail to get a gist of how something looked, made me more likely to actually open it & helped me avoid looking at fetish art for longer than i wanted too lmfao

another thing to add is that I feel like browsing submissions doesn't look very neat anymore!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I hope they completely reverse this change. I keep trying to tell people it hurts artists - which not a lot of people are addressing. Artists that use bigger thumbnails are more likely to get attention than those that don't with the new layout. And writers, animators, and musicians are almost entirely choked out.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

BLACKLIST FTW. i'm not 18+ but i would like to see art of a new animal i found without drowning in fetish art. ;D;

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's horribly hard to select an image to delete on mobile with out opening it 2x

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

the title mouse hover thing looks weird for my classic layout but i'll get used to it eventually

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Justified thumbnails makes it really hard to have a quick glance over new submissions. It's harder for the brain to distinguish the pictures from one another. So, please go back to the grid layout, that was much easier to "read". Or at least make it optional!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Amen!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Honestly, Furaffinity staff seems to have some kind of fetish for fixing what's not broken and breaking it more instead of adressing actual issues of the site (gif thumbnails problem is there for years for example). I know you're doing what you can to make the site better, but you really should listen more to the userbase and not force decisions and changes without proper warning or corcerning if it's needed in the first place - if anything, the whole password reset disaster (one rushed decision that left thousands of people without an account for a while and made a crapton of otherwise avoidable dirty work for mods) should've taught you that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Still no scrollbar for broader images in full view :(

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I agree that the new thumbnails are more stylish, but using my iPad, it's a whole lot harder to delete images now. The system I tend to use nowadays is I delete all the artwork I don't want to fav, and then Dave all the leftover artwork one by one. Now, instead of tapping one checkbox for each unfav'ed image, I have to tap the image to get the checkbox and then check it.

If it was possible to have the checkbox's always in view, perhaps subtly in the top left corner, I'd like this new image layout a whole lot more. As is, it's a good looking annoyance.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can go to any gallery page (Browse, Search, your submission inbox, any user's Gallery or Scraps...) and click the "toggle descriptions" button to get the names/titles back to displaying by default, which would also give you a persistent checkbox/area to tap.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Where's the "toggle readable spacing" button?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thank you!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

~~Can usernames and titles be put back under pieces, besides just the submission page?~~ (Apparently toggling it in the submission page fixes it everywhere. Woo!) I understand why the change was made, but it makes my gallery extra hard to look at, and not just 'cause my art is bad. xD

Furry Network has the artist and title displayed over equal sized thumbnails, while Weasyl has varying width thumbnails with titles below to give it a little breathing room between rows. How it's implemented here is just a little too chaotic. Needs a bit more white space.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And /how/ can I view images without it being organized incorrectly by size, and being unable to see the artist / name of the piece?

This isn't an update, this is a downgrade.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

If you go to your submissions viewer and click "toggle descriptions", it'll at least fix the title/username portion (though the font size is noticeably smaller than before). Can't fix the image size bit, though!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The gallery layout is horrible. Where is the option to disable it?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Gallery update makes FA Extender open every gallery link twice, essentially making it unusable.

This is super unfortunate, as in my opinion this tool it is the only way to view new submissions in a reasonable way. I was hoping toggling the descriptions back would resolve it, but no luck. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Please allow the FA filter app for chrome to work again

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Omg it's pretty <3
Finally some decent updates

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not a fan. I miss my small, neatly aligned thumbnails already.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed.
They've ruined the layout.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

FA you have ruined the submission layout. Why would you do this?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE THE OLD UNIFORM GRID LAYOUT FOR THE THUMBNAILS?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really like ! :) Nice job ^^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Shit just crashed my cellphone LOL

It, couldnt handle the new layout and the spam of comments all at once

#link Posted: 2 months ago

nit: should the search option "relevancy" be "relevance" instead?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Honestly, I prefer the tittles below the thumbnail, specially since I can CTRL+F for searching though these

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Personally I feel it looks horrible. Everything is muddling in with everything else, the descriptions and titles are gone, UNLESS you're searching and specifically click it to be on, and the borders around each submission that kept things uniform are gone now. Its just a jumbled blob of submissions. Yes I understand it fits more potentially per page, but it is just frankly, very very ugly and unprofessional looking. Its like a geocities page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Even geocities has proper scaling and UI functions. This is way worse, this is like some kid got a free license to dreamweaver and decided he had to do *something* with it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

the old setup was nice and clean, this is absolute garbage, and titles are off by default?
dont fix what wasn't broken to begin with, and this change? this change is bad, and you should feel bad

it seriously looks like hot fucking image vomit

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So, is this the end of custom thumbnails completely?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not at all! Now that thumbnail changes are largely done with, fixing custom thumbnails, including allowing for larger custom thumbnails to be uploaded, is a very high priority.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also of note, toggle descriptions is not available as an option on the homepage, so there's no way to get them other than hover

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Descriptions have never* been displayed by default on the front page, though. I'm not sure how you mean this is a change from previous behavior?

*) By "never" I mean "not as far back as I can recall" - I'll acknowledge it's possible this was a feature prior to my having an account on the site, but that's been a few years by now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Perhaps this will explain things better

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m07b0y052.....81527.png?dl=0

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Again, that's not information that was displayed on the front page prior to the update, either, so it's not an update-related change. I would recommend using the Browse page to view recent uploads if you prefer having titles and artist names below the thumbnails.

Are you saying you'd prefer if the front page, too, showed title and artist name below the thumbnail when descriptions are toggled on?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yes, considering 2 sections do and 2 don't

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And FA have mobile comparable function?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This broke Filter Affinity.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Really dislike the gallery display update. There is now so much crammed onto the screen that it is super slow to look through it all.

Having a non-standard dimension means you have to look through each item to see where it begins and ends.

Is there a way to disable this update or will I have to write my own css hack for it?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

browsing the submission notifications now is a pain. I want it back the way it was

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Arbitrarily allowing wide pictures to get twice the exposure, and completely stomping vertical submission IS NOT OKAY!
It WILL hurt the artists who are not willing to deliberately abuse wide thumbnails.
Especially ones who get majority of income from their audience.

Even through now pages look cluttered, chaotic, and are generally painful to browse through (toggling on descriptions does very little),
It wouldn't be as troubling if not for how open for abuse this is.
This is seriously problematic.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I do not like the new look of the galleries. It reminds me way too much of what Microsoft tried to do with Windows 8. And I hate Windows 8 with a passion. At least give the option to change the look back!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really dislike this
It needs to stop

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is absolutely horrific please stop

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I believe that there should be an update to the site so it automatically shows the old view automatically on mobile since you can't really have a mouse hovering over the picture.

Or you know, make a mobile app.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

mobile apps wont work cuz aple stores neeeeeedrequires apps not to be of adulttl content. like say furryu amino?? you sell porn there they get a fukcing TAKEDOWN if higheraps know

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Or you know, stop fixing shit that isn't broken.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This isn't true. You can't turn off the shitty hover-over drop downs on the main page.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The main page never displayed titles or artist names, so any issues with hovering on the front page would not be due to this update.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm not talking about just the displaying information, I'm talking about the terrible, jankie, cheap drop down that appears when you hover over it. Basically, anytime the mouse moves across the screen, a whole bunch of stupid shit animates.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Are you saying I have to manually do that for every single user I follow?

Do you not see how inconvenient that is?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Absolutely not. Toggling descriptions is site-wide, and once you've toggled them the setting should stick.
I was merely giving a number of examples of places where the button can be found; I apologize if my wording was confusing.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There were mobile apps. IMVU threatened the people who made them and shut them all down.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nobody, this includes staff at FA and those at IMVU, threatened anyone who decided to make mobile apps. There was one unofficial Android app, and we had no issue with it and stated it was "use at your own risk". We have, in fact, worked with some app and plug-in developers to help them in the past.

The only reason any apps/plug-ins broke due to the changes is that the HTML structure changed on many of the pages which would impact how some of the apps were developed.

Anyone statements that FA or IMVU threatened app creators is wrong. The only time we have taken action in the past is when some apps were hitting FA's resources hard, and we told them to throttle back their requests to the site. I myself have used the FA Gallery Downloader before. And... yes, I actually quite like it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The FA Gallery downloader is quite useful. Now I have tons of art to look at when there's nothing new in my watch.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

i really like the part when i cant know who drew an image on mobile unless i click it
feels graeit man

also im gay

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Toggling descriptions with the button near the top of the page in any page with gallery views (e.g. Browse, Search, your submission inbox, or any user Gallery) should bring back titles and artist names to displaying below the thumbnails like you're presumably used to.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

yo sweet thanks buddy.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why are story links so small? You can't even see the full title in the box, let alone click the 'show description' box.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Please please please for the love of GOD undo the submission page BS. It's so ugly and useless, and on top of everything else makes the page 100% unusable on mobile.

IDK What you were thinking, but there's still time to save face and undo this horrible UI change.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

FUCK THE GALLERY DISPLAY

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Aw man I'm sorry to enhance it,the new gallery is awful: With the view problem that I have,I can barely read the text XvX

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is this going to be one of those times where A shitty decision is made and no amount of protest will undo it?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I swear it's like they want to kill this site off.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

agreed

#link Posted: 2 months ago

FA is a mess.
FA is a big fat mess.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The update works well for desktop computers, but in my phone and tablet it's meh, when you click on the thumbnail, it doesn't takes you directly to the picture page, it will first show you the title of the thumbnail picture in the first click, , you have to click on it another time, meaning you have to click on it twice every time you want to open the page in the same tab, if you open in new tab you can do that with one click, but sometimes i just want to open the page in one tab as i don't want to clutter my browser tabs, hope to see a fix for this ,it's frustrating when you click on the thumbnail, and you realize that nothing happens, it makes it more time consuming

I Sometimes open FA regularly on my phone when i'm out, and a lot of times with my tablet when i don't wanna reach my computer, but it's just the begging, hope to see a fix for this soon

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well, the font is fixed atleast now... I was kinda hoping more fixes in my 8 hours of sleep.

Now all we need is actual grid organisation rather than submission vomit... you know, just like it used to be? Organised, clean, neat, easily viewable, no eye-bleed?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

the font might be fixed, Thank the stars, but it still trims off longer titles.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Until FA fixes it's stuff (or gives us Legacy)... here's something to make the site workable again without gouging one's eyes out:
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7945505/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Its like they copied Weasyl. Badly.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

to super good king flash 100% VS RIP html5 RIP all !!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Looks much better! ~ more professional look.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is FA just going to ignore writers, musicians, and animators? The update didn't fix any of the issues facing them. Even with descriptions toggled.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

No AJAX click to remove as you go. Its like they don't know 21st century coding.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Continuen mancant les emoticones al costat de la caixa de comentaris a l'interfície beta,

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So wide pictures get more space in my submission list than tall pictures do? I don't like it, change it back.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Re-named links at the profile page now have "@" behind them.
Is it just a failure or will it be like that for now?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there anyway to go back to the old one from this? This is making it hard as hell and annoying to clean up my submission box and i can't even do that from my Ipod anymore.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

As a 100% safe vore user, the fact that the Furaffinity filter is now down is killing me.
Please, create something that allow us to filter/ block undesired pictures and users!

The accidental view of the scat pictures (and FFS, the vore section is FULL of that!) make me vomit. Literally.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Please allow users who want it to reverse back to the old submission system. I need my thumbnails to be in a fixed matrice to rapidly identify by a simple arithmetic calculation a single submission when I miss one, plus it slows me down to check each time I'm not opening the userpage instead of the submission iteself (double-check through 48 opened tabs is a waste of time you cannot imagine if you never tried it), and so many other drawbacks.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

How do you check images on a tablet?

This "update" does nothing but add problems.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Using the "toggle descriptions" button to turn descriptions back on will give you a larger target area to tap to check submissions in your inbox.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I see the favorite button again. Thanks 4 fixing that. :)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like it!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

* Replacing the gallery layout with a new one, where thumbnails are justified to browser window width.

... That was a change the sake of change, and horrible design decision. It's now a sloppy mess. Please don't.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's like they don't even realize people might be using mobile browsers where the width is tiny.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Looks bad on widescreens too, way too many stuff going on at the same time.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I haven't even looked at it on mobile from that point of view.
Then again, my newest mobile toy has a 1900 by 1200 pixel display.

I am viewing it as a person who had nine rows of eight images per page.
Simple, predictable, easy to style.

I now get to spend personal time on a custom stylesheet, to see if I can undo "Progress".

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Okay, I'm going to throw in my two cents here. I liked a bit of organization in the submissions where they were not all haphazard and just thumbnails with the artists name under it (I know I'm a little OCD like that)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Woah what's with the wierd @ symbols? It's like dA's wierd link system all over again.

Makes things look messy, pls no

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Always hope you'll give us the option to change usernames one day.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Still impossible to use on mobile........

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can y'all fix the mobile version of the site please?

trying to delete submission notifs is 10 times harder now lol. You either end up being taken to the artist's account or the submission. Cuz checking an invisible box you have to "hover" over is kind of impractical/impossible on mobile lol.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's horrible and force us to place the cursor on the pic to know thr name
The thumbnail make me thing is I need to continue to provide content or switch on an other website

Using to much script make a website so much worst and fa before used less cript just now it come more heavy with these script mean horrible

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There's should be a "toggle description" button somewhere, I don't like the placement, but I guess it could be worse? And the bloody search engine is STILL broken as it doesn't apply rating filters to the search; when you search for something with general, adult and mature, it only applies general, and all others are stupidly filtered out. So much for "looking into the issue this weekend" >.>

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"* We acknowledge that thumbnails for non-image uploads are too small, and that the custom thumbnail functionality to submissions are broken. This update highlights the issue. Fixing custom thumbnails and allowing for their higher resolution is the highest priority fix on our list."

Why the ever-loving-shit did you not fix this YEARS LONG ISSUE before this update?

Why did you push something that was so broken on the Beta version that now most of your mobile users can't use it? ("thankfully" I think your beta version is garbage and avoid as much as I can, but you've still pissed off a good number of people)

Why did you have to change something that was, honestly, not broken in the first place? I LIKED the ordered look. It was much more friendly on my brain. This has nothing to do with thumbnail size, and everything to do with spacing (as in, the spacing that is on my PC and phone now is crap and things are harder to see). There's a HUGE difference in the width of my phone's display (and it's not a small phone) and my main PC display (and I'll not even talk about my secondary display on my PC, where the browser window is not full screen).

ffs, stop "fixing" things that aren't broken and start fixing things that actually ARE.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

To quote the Canadian comedian, Steve Smith, "If it ain't broke, you're not trying". What the hell are they thinking? Couldn't they at least run some polls and get actual user feedback?

Oh and the best part? They assured me that the search engine would be fixed and would apply all rating filters when searching. Ha! That's a good one.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Of course not. That would make sense and we can't make sense around here.

Just like we can't respond in a timely fashion to users who have tried to get an account back (took something like 3 years for one), or ad requests, where Twitter harassment is the only way I've been able to get a response... and the last time, I spent the money I was going to use on ad space on gas, so I couldn't buy ad space to try to get more gas money, because it was a worthwhile investment the first time.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Guess Twitter is the only way to get a response, even then, I wouldn't bet on getting a legit reply, they probably don't even care about us users.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah, whenever I've tried to go through "official" channels, everything gets ignored until I repeatedly @ both the furaffinity and dragoneer accounts. It's... really sad. Like... I know at this point, this thing is self-sustaining, because no one really wants to go through the hassle of moving to an alternative (and admins on pretty much every other alternative site are just as garbage in one way or another as here), so I guess administration here feels like they don't -have- to give a shit... but it would be nice if they at least pretended to.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We absolutely care, and I'm sorry you've had issues. I've no influence with ads, so I can't say anything about what might have gone wrong there, but overall we do try to address the issues with the areas we work in as promptly as we can.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So what of the search engine issue? I made a trouble ticket, I've asked staff in the past, and it has yet to be addressed.

The problem is filters are broken, you can click Adult, Mature and General, click search, and all but General are deselected. I have tried time and time again to ask people directly, and so far, no one seems to care enough to want to assure others that it'll work

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I try addressing the search engine issue time and time again, trying to explain it in detail, I feel like I'm being ignored

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's not something I can help you with, I'm afraid. I'm not a developer, so I have no ability to change what goes on "under the hood", so to speak. All I can do is pretty much what I've been doing here - letting people know some portion of what they're asking for is available to them by clicking a toggle, and otherwise addressing site-related questions I do have answers for (as well as reminding people about proper commenting conduct where necessary).

If I'm not replying, it's more likely than not because I don't have an answer, and it doesn't help anyone if I clutter up the comment section with a bunch of "I don't know" - just makes it harder to spot the staff comments that do have useful information, you know? I've still read the comments, I just don't have anything useful I can add.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Then who do I contact? Twitter? Do I just ask FA or someone there? I submitted a trouble ticket, I just fear that no one's gonna ever answer it. Do I just let it linger and have no one ever look at it? -_- I'm about to give up hope on having it ever fixed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Your ticket will be looked at; that's the right venue for reporting bugs like that. I can't promise you any sort of time frame, but tickets do get read and addressed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Fair enough, I guess the issue is pretty big if it hasn't been resolved; it's been broken for some time I'm afraid..sorry...

And if there's only some way to get that side bar out of the way so pics could be viewed fully, that'll probably never happen though. It seems too much like DA in my opinion.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Uh, no. That's a blatant lie. I've been on fa for nearly 10 years now and if else, the staff gives less of a fuck the more years passes by. It's now got to the point where neer doesn't even show up to personally reply to pissed off commenters and instead sends his lackeys to do the job to try and convince people that the staff cares, which is completely laughable.

If the staff actually cared, they'd have had reverted the site changes exactly 4 hours after the torrent of criticism started pouring in.

Also what's the point of calling this "classic" if your coders keep changing how it looks? When I think of "classic", I think of 2007 era fa, not this incoherent bullshit that fails to look even like what we had just a week ago.

If you want people to start to believe the staff then get neer to get off his asss and come here to tell us what is the stupid magical crap that'll destroy the site that yak coded into the site again that makes reverting a week old change somehow impossible and outside the reach of possibility.

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't do lies, and I'm going to ask that you tone down the hostility towards me, my colleagues, and my boss. I'm answering the questions I can answer, because I have the time and patience to do so - it's something I choose to do and holding it against other members of staff is kind of missing the point of why we reply to comments at all.

I personally use classic, and I do not feel the changes to the gallery have compromised the classic "feel" of the layout at all. You don't need to agree; I'm only mentioning this to further illustrate that reactions to the changes and opinions about what they do and do not accomplish are not universal. Reverting the changes would also be a slap in the face to the users who do enjoy having the justified galleries, so a flat decision to roll back based on the opinion of a small vocal portion of the action userbase is not something that can be taken lightly, either.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"small vocal portion"

*looks around in the comments and in other journals*

WOW! We sure are a minority here!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

by the way, How come you'll respond to people complaining about the changes in general with the same canned responses but when they go into details you shut up? http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:51517779

Telling users that you can enable descriptions has as much utility as putting a poster over a hole in a wall.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I say "small vocal portion of the [active] userbase" (I will acknowledge that I typoed that one word in the original comment) because our active userbase is a lot larger than the number of users who have commented here, for or against the changes. That is how the concept of a vocal minority works. I cannot say for certain how large of a portion of the userbase likes, dislikes, or is indifferent about the changes, and neither can anyone else.

As I have already said, my role here is primarily to address concerns I have the ability to address - that means that when a significant portion of a user's complaint is losing the title and artist name labels, I am able to let them know there is a simple solution to that concern, or that portion of it. Past experience has already shown that the button can be easy to miss, and if clicking it resolves someone's issues, it makes that user's experience better. Just because you feel that is not the central problem with the update doesn't mean it might not be for someone else.

I am not a developer, nor do I work with the UI, so I cannot answer "why?", and I'm not going to waste everyone's time by replying just to say "I don't know". All that would accomplish would be adding a bunch of highlighted staff comments making it harder for users to look for comments by staff that might clarify something they are concerned or have questions about. I will also generally not respond to overly hostile comments.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This new gallery layout is the biggest shit you ever did.
Is it at least possible to switch back to the old layout?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I like this change, but will the issue with the full-view being half hidden by the sidebar ever be fixed? The site is still basically unusable for me. I (and others such as

sugarmable) have discussed this at length with

Dragoneer, sent all sorts of information to help solve the issue, and still nothing. We are not the only ones with the problem. Please? This would seem to be more important that minor cosmetic fixes. Thank you so much.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We found the cause of the issue, and have applied the fix to both your and Sugermable's accounts.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's not just her and me. read

read and

Bumbledoodle below are also having this issue. But the worst part is, the fix seems to force me to forever see full view as much smaller than I used to. Is that what the fix is? Wide images are now forced to fit in that small area, regardless of the size they were uploaded at?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I think the most annoying thing about this is that you have programmers on this site who would rip you a new one based on this design choice. The UI is the centerpoint of any good site, and screwing with it is bound to ruin some people's experience. I guarantee you some people WILL leave this site, just like what happened when the site was hacked back when. This kind of behavior is why people are migrating over to Tumblr, FN, and Weasyl among others.

First of all, a seemingly years old problem was fixed only recently, but you did it in such an asinine way that even coders are looking at you and facepalming, I guarantee that.
Secondly, your priorities are not near what they should be. You're playing mad scientist with these changes that are broken and not adequately tested. You have an utterly massive userbase and this is the best you come up with? This is the choice that you make for updates? Shame on you. The UI layout wasn't broken, and it didn't need fixing, and it makes me blink at the abhorant gall you have to defend this horrible decision instead of doing the responsible thing and actually owning up and doing the right thing, but when have you ever done the right thing when it comes to us as a whole?
Things like name changing and blacklisting are things that have been asked for for a VERY long time, and there are competing sites out there that have this over you. The old gallery system was organized and fair. Now it's whoever has the most horizontal thumbnail gets the best exposure, and that will be exploited.
Thirdly, you have a long-standing habit of being poor with your decisions. Not to mention the complete lack of transparency between you and us. Kind of wonder where the money from all those donations are going. We don't trust you, and for good reason.

Furthermore, you're not listening to some of the reasonable feedback being present here. Do the smart and responsible thing and roll this back to reassess it before you try to release it again. Re-assess your priorities when it comes to maintaining this site and actually put some thought into what users want, not what you THINK users want. You will lose people in this update, I guarantee you that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yes, and ignoring users and responding with the same dumb response, that fixes one tiny part of the whole problem, and ignoring us when we tell you that that solution does not work. When a majority of your website user base says they hate a cosmetic change, usually means you did something wrong.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh I plan on them not listening to feedback this time around as well. What a load of BS.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is what I would have said if I had been here earlier.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The fundamental issues with the browsing changes are that one has to mouse over works to find out what they're called and who did them in the non-gallery browser, slowing down the browsing process, those which are not pictures don't show the full name of either anyway and don't have the 'toggle description' button when you mouse over them. In general the ergonomics are worse than before, particularly because users don't have the option to switch back.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The "toggle description" button will not appear when mousing over content, but rather will appear near the top of pages that contain a gallery view. Once clicked, the setting should stick across the site. The only page where mouse-over would be required is the front page, which didn't show them prior to the update, either.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What the hell? Why don't the staff listen to the users' concerns? And the search engine is still bloody broken when applying the rating filters, any searches for NSFW content is broken as it defaults to general only.

So much for "we'll look into fixing it this weekend". What a load of crap.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

oh, they are! they are... editing the last update and mixing it with the old one so it looks LESS horrible, but refuse to go back to how it was before

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why are all of the thumbnails non-uniform, different sizes? What idiot made that decision? Is this a thrift store art site now where we should expect crap all over the place? seriously.

I overcame the disgustingly larger thumbnail sizes by lowering the thumbnail size in the menu (its not idea, and causing visual issues due to the varying thumbnail sizes, quantities, and types, but ill live.)
I overcame the lack of titles (who would WANT that on a normal basis?) with the toggle button. Thanks for at least having that, (thats not sarcasm.) although i believe thats always been there, so why make it "off" by default?
I have not, and should not have to deal with rows of results broken up into some almost arbitrary distribution of 5 on one line, 4 on another, then 5, 5, 4, 4, 6, 4, 6, 5, 3... That was fine before. It WORKED before. It was had your eyes jumping around less before.

This is supposedly the oldest, and largest of our community's art sites, not some second-hand summer project by an angsty highschooler who discovered html, and wants to one-up the art site status quo.

"Keep it SIMPLE. Keep it SAFE" - Gandalf, if he was summing up what FA needed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

hmmm
Seems that every single extension for FA submissions no longer work
It cant block submissions cause it no longer able to actually read said submissions...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

These little edits to this so called "Update" is not fixing the main problem.
Just do the right thing and change things back to before the update.
Then, actually look at what people DO want changed and fixed not what you think people want fixed.
Not that I expect any of that to happen, let alone get a response from Admins on this. Odd how responses from admins here are extremely far and few between. People are unhappy and ignoring it will only make the cauldron boil harder.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Dragoneer
What happened to the changes to the sidebar? Aka multiple display options for the information?
See your own comment -> http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:51150090

Is it going to happen or off the task list? o:

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It's still on the list, but there are a few more pressing issues we need to fix first for usability. Once we're done that we'll look into providing different options for submission views.

#link Posted: 17 days ago

https://s24.postimg.org/iqvo1m277/Scroll_Bars.jpg

Scroll bars under the comments/journals, is this a bug or you guys changing stuff again?

#link Posted: 17 days ago

Yes. The site's templating system is being converted to CSS Less, and today we patched in a complete re-write of the CSS code. This lead to a few instances of minor errors which we quickly cleaned up (they should be resolved now).

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Please stop...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

good job, you knocked the storys right off the front page
http://i.imgur.com/RXyyV0f.jpg

fucking jackasses

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You're welcome to be displeased with changes, but please refrain from namecalling.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

why not put the writings above the art on the frontpage instead of damn near hiding them.
or even better, how about working on the L O N G list of projects that need to be worked on instead of these crap changes that 95% of FA hates.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

They are hardly knocked off the front page, Just scroll down. Hardly a big thing to get worked up over.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

also, the talk by the uses here about desktop and pc... are you going to give up support for desktop viewing? I do not have a mobile phone or smartphone or whatever.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Funny
I wake up this morning and everything still looks like shit.

Someone needs to be Fired

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wait, so if you hit Toggle Descriptions, it makes the New Submissions page go back to the way they were in the previous version. So what the fuck was the point in changing anything at all?

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Bug report: If you select several checkboxes, mis-click a box and get sent to an image page, then hit back, some boxes are incorrectly set to unselected. This didn't happen with the old code.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well the new update to it makes it a bit easier to look at, but I still prefer the original.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is the Upload preview back?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nope, that's FUBAR as well.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

;^; Darn

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah, it sucks ass

#link Posted: 2 months ago

*hugs the fox*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Heh, no resisting, eh? :P

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I really really really hope that the homepage can get fixed soon... I can´t even see the titles! :/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well I submitted a trouble ticket for the broken search engine not applying rating tags, and I don't expect a response for a long time.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

For some criticism I have about the beta look, is there any way to collapse the side bar on submission pages? Because when you go to full view some of the wider/landscape submissions the sidebar cuts them off, and I'm sort of sad I have to use the download option to look at the full artwork.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh, I was wondering if my screen was too small.. Good to know I'm not the only one experiencing this! Collapsing the sidebar would be a great way to fix this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I think your updates have broken the FA Filter addon. AGAIN.

I use that to filter out some aspects/kinks/things I don't wanna see, and it was working with the last update, now it's back to broken ^^; You've got to be able to find a happy balance to this thing.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Filter addon?! SPEAK AND LINK PLX

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There's two, a Chrome/Firefox addon (Though it hasn't been updated in years), though at this moment it's useless due to the updates to FA: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/.....ocemkogl?hl=en

Second is a script filter for Tampermonkey (another Chrome addon), though this one's made to filter art/comments/ect made by specific users, you can't use it to filter stuff like vore, TG, ect: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/7.....content-filter

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've mentioned this to the staff via a trouble ticket and on the previous journal, I don't have high hopes for it being fixed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Would have edited my previous comment, but it claims the edit window expired whilst I was doing so. The update's broken the filter in both classic and beta layouts.

Seriously guys, if it's not broken, PLEASE don't fix it ^^;

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I want my thumbnails to be the same size, this is so hard on my eyes to browse now.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks for making sure i will never EVER. Browse again cause of the now HUGE piles of scat pics.

And no way to filter them out. Cheers alot.

*seen to much shit.*

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I miss being able to see the artists name clearly while I browse through submissions, and especially on the front page looking for new artists :C
Much harder for me to browse art now in general as well because everything is too close together and huge.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It won't help on the front page, but on other pages with gallery views, clicking "Toggle descriptions" will change the behavior to show descriptions and artist names by default rather than on hover, for what that's worth.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

then change the front page back to the way it was and the Toggle description thing don't fix the main problem

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The only change on the front page is that you're getting title and artist name rather than a portion of the submission description on hovering over a submission. It didn't show titles or artist names in clear text prior to the update, either.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

it showed it a lot better than it does now. It at least showed all of the title.
The main issue is the thumbnails are a clutter squashed up mess that shows favoritism towards landscape thumbnails and pushes everything else off to the side. The addition of the 3rd row of submissions only makes the issue worse. I can't even use the front page to look for new pics anymore. It's a train wreck now.
Please, just change it back before things get even worse. This whole update was a massive mistake in judgement.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Or at least have the option to go back to the way it previously was.

I didn't notice the 'Toggle Description' thing until someone pointed it out to me, and it works, but makes it just that much more annoying to look through hundreds of submissions.

I also agree that the new thumbnail layout makes it very easy to miss submissions :C !!! A huge disadvantage when you use this site to make money and gain a customer base.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Christmas came early, the submissions view is immensely better on mobile beta. Thanks!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

well, nvm, found it <.<

carry on!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I dont like were the select button is now. if you're on mobile its very hard to touch it

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not a fan of the new thumbnails at all.
It no longer is neat and organized, can't see titles or artists (which I use to find certain things when on mobile or pc, mobile it is impossible)...
Overall not professional in the least and makes me sick to see.

The art is to be the fancy bit of the shoe, not the layout.
Simplicity of a layout makes the art pop.
Just.... no.
It's horrible.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I already read this copy and paste and NO it does not work for mobile, if you would read the entirety of my post.
Its still bull, looks like utter shit, and is ridiculous.

It is a horrible setup and that "toggle" does nothing to improve this horrendous failure of a visual update.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't know what to tell you; toggling descriptions seemed to work fine for me when I was browsing on my tablet earlier, and would show titles and artist names which I thought was part of what you wanted. It's really difficult for me to tell what exactly you feel is the problem if that's not it, however; if you feel it would help you explain, you're welcome to open a ticket under the User Interface category and include screenshots so you can use them to illustrate what you're displeased with.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

thank the heavens y'all went back and added some padding around this mess of a layout... makes it much more tolerable...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Stop changing the crappy layout you have JUST MADE and go back to the original. DON'T try to fix it. Just undo it

the original layout was simple. Easy. NICE TO THE EYES!

We don't need the page to "look modern". We need it to be simple and easy to use and LOOK AT

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Really Love this new update...keep it up!!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Kind of hate the way selecting submissions on the new submissions page works now. It is too hard, I keep clicking the picture and opening it instead of checking that little box at the top that is used to delete the stuff. Kind of a pain in the ass.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You can go to any gallery page (Browse, Search, your submission inbox, any user's Gallery or Scraps...) and click the "toggle descriptions" button to get the names/titles back to displaying by default, and will give you a larger area to click to select the submission notification for deletion.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh, thank you! That helps a lot. That solves my complaint.

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

everything is sorta pushed into a mess of images, though it is more streamlined.
I'm noticing two big issues though:

1. checking submissions, then viewing one, then going back a page in your browser history rather than going back to your messages may change what submissions were checked. it sounds odd, but it's happened to me a couple of times already; I'll check a few, accidentally click on the submission I want to check, go back, and find a different group of submissions checked instead.

2. stories with the default thumbnail or images with small thumbnails can have their titles cut off, most extremely with the default story thumbnail. only 3-4 letter words fit in the title when you mouse over the submission, not to mention the artist's/author's name.

I like the idea of this change, but it's a tad bit sloppy as is.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Love how you guys just post the exact same reply to everyone... literally. You're copy-pasting the response to the complaints

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And it doesn't even apply to half of them.
Its like they are doing a filter search for key words, see them, and paste away...

Does nothing to improve the viewing of them being professional or competent.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

and it's just one admin. So i'm gonna assume there's just too much work for them to handle and the poor guy/girl is doing what he can for now

#link Posted: 2 months ago

IMVU is far from perfect, but on their site, more staff, even if a volunteer, is active in responding to things.
You will see about 3-4 different people responding to things, and many respond as not just a moderator, but also as a community member.
Many times voicing out against IMVU... showing they are listening to the community.

You'd think since IMVU purchased FA, Dragoneer would of taken a tip from their book, especially on staffing like that.
Instead of making one individual do all the work,

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And here we go with IMVU again. IMVU bought FA just for the advertising it would provide... and FA needed funds for their new and completely amazing "project phoenix" and their new and totally awesome (and not at all a cheap version of weasyl+old deviantart) beta layout

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I am not against selling to another site/person/etc...
I mean, its part of business... and it is up to Dragoneer to who he sells to.
But he hasn't done anything productive since taking the money and "unburdening himself" of the cost and such (while taking an IMVU paycheck).
With all the time he has committed to the site now, there should be more changes, or him hiring more staff to task to Trouble tickets, coding, etc...
But the stuff being worked on is stuff that's low priority....

#link Posted: 2 months ago

if at least they made changes people asked for, instea dof just shoving new updates down our throats all of a sudden...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Are there any plans to implement Two Factor Authentication into the FurAffinity main site?

Preferably with an Authenticator app, as it's significantly more secure than email.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

as long as they don't do like steam, who FORCES you to use the app...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

While 2FA may be a minor inconvenience (although I do agree that it should NOT be mandatory like Steam Guard), it is the ONLY protection you have if your account login ever gets compromised.

If the hacker obtains access to your email (why you should never reuse passwords), then 2FA is useless. However, with an Authenticator app the hacker would need physical access to your device, and there is a snowball's chance in hell they'll ever be able to brute force it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

only thing is not everyone has a smartphone and/or not everyone is willing to use these types of apps (hard to believe, i know)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is it really too much to ask for a site wide poll on updates? Also why are ALL the admins
ignoring us when we say the new layout DOESN'T WORK for classic and instead tell us to toggle
desc? It doesn't fix our problem... I have sight problems and they are far to cluttered they merge when
trying to look at them.

I have mine set to 150% and my chrome is set to have FA sized differently so I can still kinda read/see
everything. Seriously why do you guys just do shit like this and just expect us to love it as a whole?
For as long as I can remember and I have been here since 06 that way of updating HAS NEVER worked.

Can you guys PLEASE just make a voting system via poll or something please? Also PLEASE allow classic
users the ABILITY to switch back. Some love the big ugly cluttered crap and others like myself have a hard time
seeing things now because of it. I hate to use language like this but damn man it is literally EVERY update now!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

ooooh, but they did! sorta

tey posted the changes they were gonna make on the forums! And only one user replied,s aying it looked good

http://forums.furaffinity.net/threa.....sions.1613102/

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So, they tell people about it hidden away on a forum hardly anyone uses anymore since the huge falling out there? At least they could have said "Hey, give us your opinion here on this!" somewhere.
One person saying that they like it is hardly a poll of majority vote. Why does this not surprise me?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

All I can suggest is using this till we get a revert; http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7945505/

I can use FA again atleast, no thanks to the official staff.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I saw that and tried it but it doesn't seem to work for me =/
I have chrome so I don't know why.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Something that definitely needs to be changed is the fact that with some stories you can't read the title because the thumbnail is too small to show it. What was wrong with having the title for submissions under the thumbnail? It doesn't look nice this way. It looks like your just trying to cram as much as you can in per page but it's still just the same number of submissions, only now it looks messy.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Clicking the "toggle descriptions" button that can be found near the top of any page with a gallery view will restore titles and artist names to being displayed below thumbnails.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Perfect. Thanks a lot. Glad there was actually a quick way to fix it. Sorry for wasting your time. I just noticed some problems, checked the first few comments on the update and assumed there wouldn't be an easy fix when I didn't see one immediately. My bad.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Why not have it has an Enable/Disable option in the 'Site settings' tab ? That would be lovely... to not have to click-click-click away...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

* renamed the "Toggle Descriptions" button "Enable/Disable Titles"

that is completely unnecessary

Can I know why instead of just going back to the old one, like everyone is asking, you're just trying to fix it with minor tweaks?

The thumbnails should be all the same size, like before, not like this!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

quoting_mungo Yak

I'd like to be responded to eventually, thats not just a machine fed answer. What do you guys plan to do now that most of the site has expressed its dislike of the change. Anything? Or will this post just be ignore again or given the same "But you can fix a tiny part of the issue yourself" response.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Their response actually does fix it completely. Pressing 'Toggle Description' changes it back to the old way.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Actually correction, it doesn't entirely change it back but it eliminates my main complaint. A little messiness in presentation doesn't affect me too much as long as functionality isn't hindered greatly.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

quite honestly I don't like the new changes, is there any way to revert back to the original settings?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Also, quick question: When we select/highlight a pic, why does it now get darker? Highlighting normally means getting brighter.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thank you so much!!!!! This site is awesome :D

#link Posted: 2 months ago

While I'm happy you guys finally made links distinguishable in beta, it looks really bad imo. A tiny icon or color change would be much better.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

When looking through our 'Submission notifications', is there a way to still be able to 'see' the artist's name under the pictures like it was before ?

Honestly, it's really annoying to have to mouse over *EVERY* pictures just to see which is which... Especially considering that before, just at a glance, you could see all the names under them.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

So when are all the thumbs going to be the same size again?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thank you for just adding back the submission + artist name under the thumbnails! <3

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yeah, I was really happy to see that a few minutes ago. I generally like FA's aesthetic and usability as it is (even if it looks dated to some), but I was pleasantly surprised to see that mistake corrected as quickly as it was. I'm not used to FA fixing anything...ever, so it was kind of a shock. I hope this is the beginning of a better, more usable site!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is getting fucking ridiculous. I have refrained from profanity so far but this issue has gotten worse, Mods continue to ignore the overwhelming amount of people telling them they dislike a cosmetic change, and that it fucks up functionality for them or just bugs them. But instead they either ignore valid arguments, spit out a shitty NOT HELPFUL "resolution" or attempt to make this new shitpile update a bit better. Instead of removing it. As a community based website your job is to listen to the fucking users not blow them off. Sorry for the profanity but talking nicely does not seem to get noticed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Amen

#link Posted: 2 months ago

They decided to pull the ol' Deviantart and Youtube forms of communication with their base,and don't start goin' thinking that any other website is different is different,because they're not.It seems like we live in an age where every fucker with any kind of power or influence over a majority wants to ruin their lives as much as possible so they can ignore their misery.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

after using this layout for a day and a half i have come to my personal conclusion that this is not better.. i can see here in the comments that some poeple like it and that's fine but i prefer the older more ovisualy organised layout where you can tell at a glance what is there without seeing the whole picture yet.. good censorship that way too.. maybe making this new DA inspired layout an option in user Prefs would be a good middle ground for this. again just personal preference, i liked the old standalone layout better.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

These little tweaks to the new layout are not fixing the problem. Just admit it was a mistake and change it back.
This is getting silly

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've never been a fan of the non-grid style galleries. Didn't like it when Weasyl switched to it, and I don't like how FA has switched to it. Landscape images force everything else to squish and overly dominate the front page / galleries. It's just really not appealing on the eyes for me, and probably never will be.

If anything, holy crap this new thumbnail change desperately makes me crave a tag block / blacklisting feature even more.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Seriously revert the Thumbnails back it just horrible how big they are and all different size, way to close together, who made that terrible decision? My Teacher in Computer Class would have slapped me into Afterlife for that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Maybe they will pay attention to us if we start making submissions that are just titled "Change the layout format back"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

they are hoping that if they ignore us long enough, we will go away. It is a tactic they have used for a loooong time

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't think the admins are even saying anything anymore.
I doubt anything is going to change at this point.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there any way I can access to the new beta version?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

How about when viewing a submission page you give an option to be taken straight to the artist's gallery; instead of having to go straight to their page and THEN being able to view their gallery?It's almost like this place had some kind of option like that before this place got a redesign or something.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Whoever is on the team responsible for these changes needs to be replaced. They have no idea what they community actually wants. Stop 'fixing' things no one wants fixed. Work on the things people actually do want, like tag filters.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

ok ive come to terms with the new display now that it's been tweaked

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm not really a fan of the change in layout nor am I against it but this change for the submissions/gallery view is nice and new. Now it just needs to be made compatible with mobile so we can select the submission notifications we wish to delete if we're on the go. :3

I'd like to also suggest adding a tag filter function like Twitter has so we can filter out what art we don't want to see personally from our accounts.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm probably the odd one out here, but I really don't like the new image layout.

I appreciate trying to make the images bigger rather than little thumbnails, but now all the images are different shapes and sizes crammed onto the page with as many images that can fit rather than neatly being organized in a grid with a certain amount of pics per line. Sure the bigger pics are nice I guess, but it's too much to look at with them all just thrown onto the page trying to maximize space with no spacing or layout, seriously this isn't Tetris lol. If there's a bunch of wide pieces of art on one line it might only fit 3 or 4 whereas the line right under it could be a mix match with some super skinny cellphone pics throw in and there's 7 or 8 photos on that line. Too much to look at with no space between them, it's quite overwhelming and messy looking IMO, sensory overload makes it very easy to overlook things.

Maybe have an option to limit how many pics per line or to keep them in a "thumbnail grid format" or something? You know, the same way there is an option for how many images to display per page maybe have a box to check to prevent this if one feels so inclined?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Hey, you're not the only one. I hate the new image layout. Especially because you can't even see the name without hovering over the pic!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Scroll through this journal and see this is the majority's opinion... of those that responded on this journal anyway.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is a fundamental issue with these updates. There's no option to revert to the previous layout for those of us who find it works better. We can't see usernames or work titles unless we mouse over them and 'toggle descriptions' isn't available on the ordinary browsing system, just user galleries. What's more is that the new layout has poor ergonomics, particularly due to the fact that there's no set number to each row which can make it difficult to scan through.

This same issue occurred a few months earlier on DeviantArt, which made me decide not to use that website's browsing system or search engine regularly anymore.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thank you for reverting the image layout back to how it was. The site wasn't working for me before but now it is.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

A uniform, predictable layout allows users to easily browse and search without having to dedicate brainpower to determine where one image ends and another begins, in the vertical and horizontal equally (as pages are scrolled vertically).

A justified, variable-width layout makes vertical skim-browsing excessively difficult, especially with a lack of spacing. It crams too much info at the user and is liable to tire them out long before the previous method, leading to less browsing time and thus less ad revinue from those who had ads unblocked. Even a fixed grid with the thumbnails set to varying size and arranged by their center works better, as again it leads to more predictability.

Making each image's info have a hover-view eats up resources. This makes the site slower, caps how much a user with a slower computer can view in a given time span, and again, leads to less browsing time.

These are easily-understood design principles. Your goal is to make the site so users want to browse for longer amounts of time. You already include a dark and light theme (personally I prefer light, but many enjoy dark) so why not include "FA Classic" and "FA Modern" options alongside the beta toggle? This puts power in the users' hands to browse as they prefer and satisfies pretty much everyone.

I don't know who your current lead web designer is but I highly suggest they stop, re-evaluate their priorities and actually look at how other people are saying they use the site.

I can't even code at all and this is obvious to me. Justified layouts are atrocious and need to be reserved for things like advertisements and greeting cards.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Very well put. A clear, thought out response. Just the facts displayed out in a calm and reasonable fashion with opinions there to make it personable.
If the admins listen to anyone here or read at least one of the comments in this journal. I hope it is this one.
I urge others to focus attention onto this in hopes it is seen by more people. ^,..,^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I completely concur with this one and also fully agree with anubiis on this matter. This is well-conveyed and lays everything out thoroughly. I truly hope that there will be some degree of listening on the part of the staff, and they read comments like this especially.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Total agreement here from me. It's like they're putting a new coat of paint on a sinking ship to try and hide the fact that people's socks are getting wet from the water coming in. They need to fix what's not working before playing with the 'paint'.

Most people don't mind the way the site looks from just before this latest 'update', so they need to put it back and fix what's actually not working... like say idk... adding that blacklist that people have been asking for, for years.

I only took a few design/marketing classes in school, and only know the bare basics about how ad revenue is generated, but really, more views = good, less views = bad. It's not that hard to grasp.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

OH, I have a suggestion!

Why not a spoiler marker in the "Manage Submission" page? There should a checkbox that one can click on if a post contains (usually major) spoilers.

Spoilers? []

Something like that.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Wow, I didn't know that making me lose the submissions in my mailbox is considered mandatory for this update!

This site is called "furaffinity", right? MORE LIKE "FARTAFFINITY!"

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Still no comment on the blacklisting system? Something that I've been asking for for about 4 or 5 YEARS now and was told a few years ago that "it's coming"?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Could you have an option that lets folks go with the classic look? This is a pretty smooshy, ugly-ass layout, and it was easier on my eyes the way before.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I appreciate the effort in making the thumbnails better and tweaking the overall the layout, however could we reorganize our priorities here? I think a proper blacklisting feature would be much higher on the list. A lot of users are asking for it, and it would improve the quality of the site immensely. I want to browse submissions but I am so sick of seeing scat and other fetishes I find personally distasteful.

Also, please make thumbnails for transparent pngs files...transparent. Thank you.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is quite long and I don't normally post to these, but... please bear with me on this. It's a bit rambly, but I see a lot of 'I don't like this' without going into details as to why it's not liked.

Frost750 has the right idea in what people who use this site seem to be looking for and want, ( http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/.....7#cid:51524356 ) but I'm going to also put my 10 cents worth in here as well. (Little bit too long for being 2 cents worth)

Put back the 'classic' page to classic. What you've done is not an improvement. It's a glaring eyesore of a mess of 'thumbnails' that I can't browse. It's very jarring and unpleasant to look at and try to browse like this.

Why don't you leave classic as classic and add a toggle, or you know, actually ask people before you force a live change. Ask them HERE, on the announcement bar, rather than hide it away on some page nobody knows about or ever thinks to check. I have NEVER seen you ask your users BEFORE you make changes to anything. Or you know, even how to sign up for this so called 'beta' without being forced into giving up the classic look.

I stay logged in all the time on classic because I can't stand the dark background, light text format. It hurts my eyes and gives me headaches.
The landscape thumbnails are glaring, and there is no easy way to skip content you don't want because you have no black list. How about you fix the back end issues before you keep playing around with the looks? For instance, if the 'classic' light grey with black text were to leave, so too would I.

I might like looking at NSFW pictures, but I really don't need to see a full color picture of someone taking a $*** or getting a dick shoved in their face, while wanting to go through the browse page. I don't mind that the content is hosted here, and other people like it, but come on. Many of those had custom thumbnails so not show such content unless you wanted to look at it, plus warnings in the title... Now? I get it shoved in my face regardless of what I want. This applies to any content you don't want to see, be it someone fucking or any other content that you might not like. Sure, you can turn off the higher ratings... but I want to look at some of them. Put in a keyword blacklist before you do things like this for cripes sakes.

Please don't give me the copy, paste reply about toggling titles/info/user names on/off either, because that's not my issue. I have everything turned on, but That doesn't fix the 'thumbnail' sizes! There are landscape 'thumbnails' that take up 4 times the width than the portraits at almost the same height as the portrait. Fix this, because changing the 'size' in options does nothing to stop that either. Making the thumbnails smaller just makes it harder to see anything while leaving the badly stretched proportions only in a smaller size.

The landscape pictures grab your attention and drown out the portrait. The 'wider' the shot, the more space it gets. There might be a 'max limit' but come on, this is stupid. Either put back the regular size limit or shrink the scaling on landscapes by a lot, because this is ridiculous. It's TERRIBLE in my inbox too.

Also, do you know how hard this 'update' to classic is to load on a low bandwidth/cell phone connection? It eats data like crazy. I have an ad blocker that I normally leave off to support sites and only have selected blocking turned on to block particular malware ads... Now? I turned it on here to block ALL ADS, because you know what? I have a choice between no ads and being able to load the site now. Great job. /claps

The ads here aren't terrible, I'll admit that. Given a choice I'd leave them on to be truthful, but sadly animated gifs and moving ads eat a lot of data on a metered plan. With the smaller, more uniform thumbnails it didn't cause too much of a data drain on the classic layout and I could load them without driving my bill through the roof. However since loading this new thumbnail layout, your site eats through data faster than a snowball melts in a blast furnace.

I have a choice between accessing the site with ads on, and only looking at a few pages before the daily data cap hits, or shutting off ads and looking at a few more pages. Neither is particularly a good thing for you, as before the change the ads were getting more views from me (and likely others) than after.

How about a faq with links to the important places, a poll page, and somewhere to give feedback that's not just a pile of comments on an 'update notice'. Seriously, consider it. Since this is now a business rather than a user developed site relying on donations, you're shooting yourself in the foot by not listening to your users. This was the heart of the furry community at one point, and people have stayed despite some less than stellar choices, but the keyword here is 'was'. Now there are sites that are becoming what FA used to be, and people are starting to leave for those rather than stay here. As a business, you now rely on ad revenue to pay the bills... No users looking at the ads, no revenue.

I tried my best to keep this to constructive criticism, but I'll say this now, since this change to 'classic' I can say I'm less inclined to stick around. As someone who doesn't produce much content myself, but uses/used this site to communicate with others, order commissions and such, I have no issues packing up and following the artists I like to other sites. By not listening to those that attract others to this site, you're committing slow suicide. You want people to come in, look around, sign up and see/click on the ads, but by alienating your content creators you're also driving away the people that would come here for them. You aren't just losing one person when an artist leaves, but everyone that viewed their stuff here... and all the ad revenue from the page clicks when someone looked at their work on multiple pages.

You can make whatever changes you want to the site and alienate whoever you want, that's a choice you can make. However, I'm sure you're aware that actions have consequences and that it doesn't matter what the site looks like if nobody wants to go anywhere near it. At one time, FA was the only option for the community to post art and such, now there are other places to go if we don't like it. Ignore what your user base wants long enough, and they can and will leave. It's happened to other sites before, and it can happen here too.

This was the first site I ever joined way back when, and while I no longer have access to my original account due to loss of the original e-mail years ago, I still have fond memories of the time I spent here then. I made another account, reconnected with people and stayed until now.

Memories and fond thoughts only holds one for so long though, and as artists start to leave, feedback is ignored and changes are made without any care for what the users want, so too will I and others go. I will be sad, I will miss it, but I will leave... and I will be unlikely to return even if things get 'fixed' later. Like closing the barn door after the horses are out, or patching a hole in an already sunk ship, there is a point when it's too little, too late... I just hope you get things fixed before the 'boat' sinks and all the horses leave for greener pastures.

As a note, when I say 'you' I'm not singling out one person. I can't say how much input anyone has since the site was bought, nor can I say who's ultimately responsible for the final decisions here. This is meant to be food for thought for anyone/everyone that works on/develops this site.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I agree with imnotgonnatell's entry.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

It would be very nice if you'd bring back the ability to see the entire reply chain in notes, pretty please. It makes conversations a lot easier not having to search back through several separate messages for previous replies, etc.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ah. Now we're getting somewhere! The browsing section's got a more appropriate setup right now, although it's still not in a grid layout which would make sense if this was urban planning but on this kind of browsing system a grid makes it easier to find what you're looking for.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK TO GRID SYSTEM! I CAN'T STAND SO MANY IMAGES ON ONE PAGE! IT IS STILL AN EYE-SORE! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYONE TELLING YOU TO CHANGE THE CLASSIC BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS! I haven't browsed the site since you "updated" more like RUINED because it is a MESS! I hate not being able to look at anything without it having so many images on one page! I like uniformed things and this is not uniformed! PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK! That is why Beta should be the only thing should be tested out, NOT the Classic layout! PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm enjoying the changes so far, there's plenty more to see and the thumbnail quality is actually viewable now where as before it could be very hard to preview what's going on in the image without clicking it.

But dear God, the FA staff get so much shit for just trying to keep the website updated. I've seen several users pretty much harassing staff users over this like it's a life ending issue. FFS people if you don't like something post CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK don't harass and bitch the staff out, they're doing their jobs.

'I hate this.' Isn't constructive feedback FYI.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Constructive feed back is often ignored by staff. Thats what they are complaining about. And the Fa staff does not bend over backwards to help us. They ignore users complaints, tickets, and requests for site fixes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

That's right.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Agreed. Even work on Value time too... so there is that. lol

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Well, there's also a huge difference between a sitewide poll on a major change and a single forum post that literally ONE person commented on before they pushed the change out, nevermind the fact that said changes also weren't tested well because they are breaking the site for a massive amount of the userbase. Not only that, they aren't listening to the pleas of users to change it back, or, god forbid, the option to change it back OURSELVES with the settings we had before. Quite honestly, it looks like shit to me and many others- I respect you like it but the vast majority hate it even if it doesn't break the site for them. And again, the vast majority of these complaints aren't even giving them shit, if you look through them.

If they want to put out a change this scale, some real warning would be nice, a chance to give feedback and have our voices heard would be nice. Shoving a shitty new layout in our faces when there have been massive issues for years that STILL haven't been fixed and ignoring us when we tell them both we don't like it and it's breaking the site is a slap in our faces.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Good update, but I think grid view should still be an option.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Thanks the updates! And this neat reply box at the top!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I hav an idea the site
Have a jump to top buttn at the bottom for those of us using mobile and not hong access to a scroll bar for pages were the replys en masse and t takes 5-15 min scroll to tpo

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I CAN'T HARDLY UPLOAD ANYTHING. PLEASE HELP.
I tried the trouble ticket system and clearing browsers, using many different browsers, cleaning the computer, restarting. And I always get:

"The connection was reset
The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading."

Every time I try to upload a damn picture. I have to hit refresh 10 times before it uploads. Takes a 15 minutes to upload a freaking image anymore these days.

Please help, I'm begging you!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This is all new.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Am hoping for an eventual implementation of a tag blacklist, if possible. One of the reasons I don't often go on FA is due to the lack of a blacklist.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I been wanting it for EVER...
It seems stupid changes > important add-ons

#link Posted: 2 months ago

apparently never going to happen. As you can see, they keep ignoring suggestions that will help the side, but instead keep trying to fix stuff that doesn't need to be fixed.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Welcome to the modern world wide web, it's all like this.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

True in a lot of cases, but This happens to be the laziest group of admins I have ever seen in my life..... Unfortunate.. Every other website is able to implement stuff faster, or already have them implemented from the start.. How in the hell does FA not have a filtering system? You think about how long this site has been here, and it still doesn't have one, considering the content is there... even the shittiest put together wanna-be art sites have filtering systems.. among other things...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Oh yeah, true. For a while I thought I liked the laziness, keeping it old school instead of making it a resource hog like DA*, but now you mention it I can't understand why it doesn't have a filtering system.

*: For a long time, loading one DA tab was about as slow as loading 100 FA tabs on my machines. It was epic slow, lol. I just gave up on DA altogether.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

lol DA hasn't barely changed anything in a few years, now... but at least they did more for their site in their span of existence than FA has ever did in theirs

#link Posted: 2 months ago

DA has been around 5 years longer than FA, and back in the Y2K era and dotcom boom, they had programmers that were real programmers and not people that wanted to rip off a rival site's appearance to make it look pretty while the site falls apart behind the scenes.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yep.. I've been on DA since the beginning... all the stuff FA is saying they can't do, DA has done it..

#link Posted: 2 months ago

All the stuff they say FA can't do is due to Yak owning the code to the site and refusing to allow it to be rewitten due to his ego. So for the last 11 years, new features have just been shoehorned into the site, which is why when too many updates are done, the site goes offline for weeks due to them having to keep rewriting bits of code in order to get it to work again. The site needs to be taken offline and have the entire codebase rewritten and upgraded to this century, then it will be a lot easier to work with.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Yay for uncluttered!

Thanks for putting it back; like being able to see pic previews.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

what are you talking about? they didn't change a thing? O.O

#link Posted: 2 months ago

they have, they changed the font and spacing. The layout is still how it was but theres more space so its breathable

#link Posted: 2 months ago

but the thumbnail sizing is still all over the place

#link Posted: 2 months ago

yeah i know....( but considering how things usually go im happy to have at least a little bit of change so my brain doesnt explode -v-")

#link Posted: 2 months ago

so not any real change

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not bad. I think it's better done than Deviant Art where fonts end up at really wierd sizes, mostly too small but with some way too large. I can only assume they specify font size in pixels for some text and points for others, which is a terrible idea; totally screws up outside a narrow range of DPI settings. Also, this site puts far less load on my computer than DA does, which I very much appreciate. I just today discovered it's the adverts on DA which load my computer. I hope FA never starts loading my computer in the same way.

Little problem with titles in galleries: if a title wraps to make two rows of text, the bottom row is 3/4 hidden by the thumbnail beneath.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I'm using beta I think; it's definitely not classic. Browser is Firefox, with minimum font size set to 14.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Inline comments... in 2016...

Is this real?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We still have cancerous wide tumor-like thumbnails. Revert this nasty change

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I was told in a comment earlier that they have plans to at least fix the issue of non-visual art thumbnails be fixed. But I do agree with this as well, the huge thumbnails choke out the smaller ones. People that use massive thumbnails are going to get rewarded with more watchers, attention, and commissioners than those that use logical normal sized thumbnails.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've got a landscape piece from Kenket in my inbox that takes up the entire left side of the page (space of like 2 or 3 images at least).

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And that damn sidebar that should be below the pic, not to the right, this isn't DA (thank goodness)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

We do not need to see the front page be bigger, but good job

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I hatw the way the gallery looks!!!

The top picture is aligned to the center
the rest are aligned left, and they're all in a straight line going from top to bottom!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

There is an Unoffical fix now out thanks to the work of a dedicated user. I dare not post the link here in fear the mods find a reason to remove the post, and ban people involved. If your interested message me I will give you information.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

1. Roll out a huge unannounced update that changes so many visual things (but not deeper hardware problems), call it "improvements", and people hate it because it looks like a complete clusterf-...
2. Release more updates that revert the changes made in previous update back to what it was before the update that should not have been changed to begin with.

I never get tired of the unique logic FA has.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

"revert" is a strong word, because they didn't actually "revert" it back, just made it look similar to the original, but without going back to it

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Gallery Folders seemed to have disappeared from mobile.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

They never existed on mobile. XD

#link Posted: 2 months ago

On the classic theme, they were on the side bar. I think I might just be on the desktop version on my tablet, which is causing the folders to disappear.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ah that make sense. This wasn't in the dark theme of the beta.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is there a way to see folders in beta?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Not in mobile or tablet mode sadly.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Aww...darn.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Urg, another update on FA that nobody really asked for, that's causing more problems then they are solving it. Maybe in the future that, rather then forcing one of these down everyone's throats based on just only what a handful of staff members think, have a preview or beta test with select FA users that ARE NOT staff members, and make changes based on their feedback, or even scrap if it gets too much negative feedback.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You would think that they would push these updates to beta users only...you know, the whole point of a beta program.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This cancel comment button is driving me insane!!!
At least put it AFTER post comment??? And is it even really necessary? Can't you just.... not comment or delete your text?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Journal issues still a problem on here with the old journals that are featured, breaking and not staying as the primary one. Plus, as well with the disable comment feature not implementing. I sent a trouble ticket for this a week ago.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I submitted a feature request 1 year, 2 months ago... A pretty easy-to-implement one as well... Just curious if anyone has ever given it a look over.

Trouble Ticket ID #103906

At the bottom of every artists Gallery where it has the "<< Back" button, "Viewing page #1" and "Next >>" button

I would really like to see an addition of how many pages that artist has, sometimes I like to look through their galleries, and sometimes artists have hundreds and hundreds of pictures, so it seemingly never ends.

I'd like to see a total page count. Not hard to do, the database is already being called to display [Submissions Per Page], and on the "User page" of a user it displays the total number of submissions, So why not just do [Total Artist Submissions] \ [User Preference for Number of submissions per page] = Total Pages

Also, in that case, could remove the # sign after Page, as it looks a little ugly.
[ << Back ] Viewing page 1 / 25 [ Next >> ]

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What do I do about that bug that says there is a submission in my inbox when there is not? It's the second time this has occurred.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The submission counter should resynchronize if next time you receive an actual submission in your inbox, you make sure you use the checkboxes and "remove selected" to clear them out, and not the nuke button.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I've been using the select all and then the remove selected buttons instead of the nuke button and it hasn't corrected itself at all. I could try selecting them individually and then using the remove select.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Do try that, and if that doesn't solve it I'd recommend filing a Trouble Ticket under Report a Bug, and make sure you mention what you tried already so we don't make you do it over again.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Will do. Thank you very much for the tips. ^.^

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I keep hitting the title on pics in my Inbox when trying to check the box.
Please change things back to how they were before the update. This is getting highly annoying.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Just wondering, Will discord be added to contacts n social media?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

This has stalled out. They've taken the working thumbs and made them a mess and are avoiding answering any comments that relate to fixing them. Maybe if people report them to IMVU for this they'll force Neer to replace some of the staff behind it and fix the thumbs rather than ignoring the problem?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Anyone else recently getting ads opening up every other click with spam adverts?

Only seems to be doing it on this website....

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Ublock Origin is a good plugin to use

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I use the original layout.
I didn't experience any issues with the update to the old gallery format (roll over images to bring up the check-boxes, etc..) I felt it worked well. In the few days it was active, I did not experience any problems using it, or any other features with the classic site.

I don't know if it happened yesterday or today, but I came back to my gallery today to find that it's back to how it was before last week. Was this from technical problems, or just bad feedback?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

If you prefer the roll-over behavior, you can click the button "Disable Titles" near the top of your inbox, and it should toggle the behavior over while hiding the title/artist information and checkboxes displayed under the submissions, again. We simply changed which state was the default due to user feedback.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

are there any plans on returning the thumbnails to an orderly grid fashion?
the random sized tiles makes the galleries very cluttered looking.
Also they are quite unfair to people who submit portrait pics.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Y'all could also add an option to see only NSFW images in this website.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

In an neutral gallery layout, every thumbnail have the same clickable area regardless of the aspect ratio of the submission. This new gallery layout is blatantly unfair and biased, giving widescreen submissions the clickable screenspace of five or more taller submissions. It's seriously hard to see the thumbnail of tall submissions when a wide thumbnail is hogging the view.

Am I gonna have to go through all my old submissions now and add custom thumbnails with a bunch of useless fluff on the side just so they have a chance to get noticed? Do people want their gallery overtaken by over-large thumbnails that's several times wider than they need to be?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I think I mentioned this somewhere but the fuzzy date format now says something like "Fender posted on a week ago" which is obviously wrong. The word "on" should only appear for specific dates.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Is this something you're seeing on beta, or on specific pages? I've not seen it myself so I'm a little puzzled.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

At the top of this page.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7944727/
"Fender posted on 10 days ago"/"Fender posted on Nov 27th, 2016 07:34 PM"

It only works for specific dates, for fuzzy dates it looks weird. And it might only be on journal pages like this one. (I can't find it in the journal list or on submissions, but it does show up on all journals)

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I don't know if this problem occurs outside of the beta UI.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

The easy toggle for titles makes this mostly great. It's a fine change. I can use the site at 100% zoom on my wacky narrow monitor now.

However: the ever-present "I AM STREAMING" spam is now even larger and more in the way. This is less a matter of layout and more a highlight of how Inkbunny did better by making stream notifications a separate thing. This content is not art. These are not real submissions. They belong in the Journals section.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Mass journal delete function please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I would like to see, in my gallery, when an artist deletes a submission, that it would at least leave a trace. To what I had loved and favourited previously instead of empty space. Nothing really bombastic or anything, but when I Iook in my gallery and see 'submission deleted', it would just be nice to at least maybe have it remember the title, and artist, at least. Something like 'Artist X has deleted submission Y'. It would just be nice to know what I lost, I go back in my favourites dating back years and years and empty spaces, I don't even remember what that was...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

will this website ever not be garbage?

#link Posted: a month ago

People keep giving them money to "fix the servers" or some other Windows XP-Era tools, so no.

#link Posted: 10 days ago

A+ response, dude.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Aaaaaand you guys ignored the userbase! Again! And won't fix anything! Again!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

What else did you expect from FA?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Nothing much, to be honest. Since the disastrous note system update they did XD

#link Posted: 2 months ago

I haven't used the notes yet. As long as people still use the site what reason do they have to fix it?

#link Posted: a month ago

Well, it's not like we can't find ways to go around these "updates". There are addons for firefox and chrome with scripts that modify how the page looks and such

#link Posted: a month ago

I just use furiffic now instead of FA. I haven't looked at the submission page or faved anything since the change. I only use FA now for answering comments and talking with friends.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Can't disabled comments on journals anymore. keep selecting it but it still allows comments :3 Can't be bothered to read through all the comments to see if anyone else is still having this issue.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

really good idea! to hight thumbian, and i think system was faster! reallyy faster.Thanks for stable FA. looks great pic !Thank you!

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Noice.

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

I noticed something wjwn vewiwing Galleries on Beta..

The folders that the person makes are unavailible...

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You guys sure have been suspending a lot of good people on here lately ESPECIALLY ALL OF MY FRIENDS. What the hell is the matter with you people. You don't you suspend people who really deserve it.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Apart from the discrimination of musicians, wich still have to live with 120px thumbnails, I'm also quite annoyed by landscape thumbnails getting far more screenspace and hence exposure than portrait ones - and the viral abuse of those wide thumbnails for announcements of YCHs, auctions, commissions, streams, whatever... Really! That sucks massively!!!

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#link Posted: 2 months ago

Meh. I liked it but they could put the profile description back on the mobile version
Or put the "next" and "preview" buttons under the submissions

#link Posted: 2 months ago

And no word about changing it back? You're gonna just ignore it, huh?

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Worst update ever. Pictures don't even barely load now it is very annoying. everything else is great just not the picture loading.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

You removed the description boxes on front page pictures and stories.

#link Posted: 2 months ago

Could you help me by explaining why an @ appeared next to the links on my page?

Example: Furaffinity
This works fine. But it doesn't on my page. But I didn't put any @ in my code. What did I do wrong?

#link Posted: a month ago

I believe the @ only appears when used on external links from FA

#link Posted: a month ago

I figured it out. It's only the beta design (color black) which displays all links with an @. All other themes work. :O

#link Posted: a month ago

hmm okay cool :3

#link Posted: a month ago

FA site loading performance sucks right now where thumbnails and images aren't loading at all or loading incredibly slowly. I've checked multiple times and it's nothing on my end, but the connection between FA, Cloudflare and the client, there's a huge delay in milliseconds when loading through Cloudflare's proxies that severely hinders load times. I did a quick check with a traceroute and its giving me 43.404 ms across 4 hops through Cloudflare's host proxies. Doesn't seem like much but it makes the connection slow when trying to load FA.

#link Posted: a month ago

Im wondering when we are going to get folders in the Beta theme. If only as a dropdown menue

#link Posted: a month ago

Could you please move the block button away from the gallery button on mobile? That would be great! I've hit it several times without meaning to :( looking better guys!

#link Posted: a month ago

We should have Elephants in the Species list, just saying.

#link Posted: a month ago

I agree, and also Parrots.

#link Posted: a month ago

There's a thread on the forum for suggestions to the Species list: http://forums.furaffinity.net/threa.....-list.1585227/

#link Posted: a month ago

question, but if we type up a list of potential ideas to better the site would we be able to send them in and have them looked at for consideration or would it be a waste of our time?

#link Posted: a month ago

Wondering are we ever gonna get a blacklist like inkbunny?

#link Posted: a month ago

Call me crazy, but didn't you used to be able to search by species and gender on here?

#link Posted: a month ago

Are you planning on adding pagination to search and galleries? And maybe remove the 3000 search results limit?

#link Posted: a month ago

Name change when

#link Posted: a month ago

can we please have a thing where we can choose to disable journals or submission notifications?
I'm pretty tired of the non stop advertisements but I don't want to unwatch at the same time because i like the art work.

#link Posted: a month ago

mass unwatch? ;w ; pleaseu?

#link Posted: a month ago

when's the submission page gonna be fixed? and the profile text bug that was gonna be fixed rq?

and the @ in links?

#link Posted: a month ago

When viewing art, where it says "more from so and so" why don't y'all make that link to the artist's gallery?

#link Posted: a month ago

needs a page counter for notes, and a nuke all button as well for them, or at least for the trash

#link Posted: a month ago

For some reason the last update made FA worse on my browser, thumbnails and artworks take forever to load up instead of them usually fully loaded within 30 seconds. Now I have to wait like 10 minutes.

#link Posted: a month ago

Can we have an option where we can "Delete Watchers"?

Like you go to "Watched by" and there's a list, and you'll see the "Remove link"

This would be useful is u have a massive watchers that are suspended and their page is disabled and also inactive accounts.

I would love FA to have that option.

and also I would love to able to PM multiple users all at once, like composing a note to multiple.

#link Posted: a month ago

Please help! In need of a ref sheet.
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8010929/

#link Posted: a month ago

Not the place. Check the Art Exchange section of the forum.

#link Posted: a month ago

Yiffy disagrees. More eyes see this than that.

#link Posted: 17 days ago

https://s24.postimg.org/iqvo1m277/Scroll_Bars.jpg

Scroll bars under the comments/journals, is this a bug or you guys changing stuff again?

#link Posted: 17 days ago

Looks like a bug; I've not been seeing similar on any of my devices.

#link Posted: a month ago

I honestly wish there was some way of organizing the gallery folders. It's a bit difficult to tell what submission is assigned to a folder and IF it's assigned to it.

Maybe like a "Submision_Name in: Gallery_Folder" format?

#link Posted: a month ago

When will you be fixing the mobile profiles?

#link Posted: a month ago

question why did notes now removes the bottom of what be typed after a few replays? cause now it hard form me to keep track of my commission information gathering.

#link Posted: a month ago

I don't really care about this "update" your cutting your titty off at. It's the comedy here that's lacking. -_-

#link Posted: a month ago

Could you drop the ugly-looking "Classic" theme already? Maybe in 2069 you'll be out of beta, can only hope everyone has switched to something more sane by then, though~

#link Posted: 23 days ago

Actually, many prefer the classic theme over the beta. Just saying.

#link Posted: 3 weeks ago

It's amazing to me that anyone would prefer anything at this point, considering FA's past record with getting hacked several times as well as it's history of neglect and horrible site security.
But... Good to know, I guess~

#link Posted: 23 days ago

I'm a little upset that you can't be rude on here, but that's just me. I've only been on here for a day and I'm a little confused about the interface and what to do. Anyfur on here that could help me out?

#link Posted: 23 days ago

keep going ;) nice update

#link Posted: 3 weeks ago

recent update seems if you're using classic on mobile and pc, if you use movile it logs you out of desktop
which is something that makes me pretty uncomfortable to see every morning when i go to check my fa messages and such on the pc

#link Posted: 3 weeks ago

I love how everyone is bitching like "stop changing shit and bring back the old site" but when the old site was here al they did was bitch that they didnt like things and wanted changes.

"im not saying I want perfection, just that I want every single little bit of data to conform exactly to the way I like it and never ever have a single issue or need to change again at any point in the future!"

#link Posted: 18 days ago

Sent in a general ticket to provide primary massive information, but posting here real quick to make sure it doesnt get lost in the chaos.

Not related to the new build, but definitely news/announcement related. FL suffered hundreds of thousands of data deletion over night at the hands of its own owner (WITHOUT WARNING) due to legal issues that pertain to flare ups of adult website restrictions happening on a global scale.

I really hope FA addresses this as much of its own content is similar and the sites similar in size/structure. Its all extremely concerning and I think widely unknown by much of the general population at this point.

#link Posted: 17 days ago

Why are there suddenly horizontal scroll bars all over the place in http://www.furaffinity.net/msg/others/ ?

They serve little to no purpose.

#link Posted: 16 days ago

i hope they add sometimes soon a "ads/Patreon advertising" category which you can "turn on/off" if you dont wana see such art. Some people srs overdo it with the ads/advertising...

#link Posted: 12 days ago

can filters be added in soon?

#link Posted: 9 days ago

Why is this still on the banner?

#link Posted: 5 days ago

Tag blocking when?

#link Posted: 4 days ago

Yeah my featured picture isn't working. =/ Does anyone else have this problem? I've tried looking at options and there's only one place I see for featured submission options.

#link Posted: 4 days ago

General functionality and desirability is way better on Inkbunny. FA still sucks in every conceivable way in comparison.

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