Don't believe the journalists, read the original paper. It is about the land sparing and productivity trade-off. If organic yield equals conventional, it wins. No categorical rejection of organic agriculture.
Hey look! A comparison of modern ag v organic ag shows organic is worse for the environment. Published in @nature and not a single author was a yogic flyer! What say you @Greenpeace @FoEint?https://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/chalmers/pressreleases/organic-food-worse-for-the-climate-2813280 …
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"If organic yield equals conventional it wins." Well, the yields are generally superior for non organic production, even before you take into account that organic parasitizes conventional for as much as 50% of the N2 it uses. So... organic doesn't win. http://csanr.wsu.edu/organic-ag-synthetic-nitrogen/ …pic.twitter.com/V7DlNhHkTC
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Organic already wins sometimes even though organic does not have 100 years of R&D since Haber-Bosch behind it. I see it a bit like solar energy. Even though it was more expensive than fossil energy, prices decrease. Organic ag stimulates innovation, like solar energy subsidy.
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Let’s innovate by refusing to use modern technologies. And let’s innovate by demonizing genetic technologies to try and sell our product. And let’s keep it natural and cover our crops with known carcinogens like rotenone and copper sulphate. Oh and market it as pesticide free!
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Organic agriculture has produced a number of interesting innovations. I don't need to be a dogmatic apologist for organic agriculture to recognize that. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rapoport%27s_Rules …
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I thought you sent me a link on the innovations in organic agriculture
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When the EU-28 has more than 12 m ha of land under organic agriculture, it stimulates R&D into biological solutions. Companies like
@Koppert benefit. Plenty of products, exciting bioscience, business opportunities and potential cross-fertilization with conventional agriculture.
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Organic agriculture will not feed the world, ... but will make many farmers lot’s of $$, and there is nothing wrong with that. There is no problem with the analysis, though there is with the research question. Our job is to privide profitable and sustainable options to farmers.
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True. And in a post-truth world organic food marketers will continue to lie about “sustainability”, “chemical-free” and “toxic GMOs” regardless of the science and the reality. Organic agriculture would be fantastic if it embraced modern technology and the best genotypes.
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Actually, 'organic GMO' agriculture seems the most esthetically pleasing option. But with the current devides and marketing, we are unlikely to see that taking off soon.
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There is an obvious hole in this discussion. What is the environmental cost of creating those fertilizers (often from oil) and shipping them?
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Probably about the same or less than generating and collecting animal manure and shipping it. Definitely less than stuffing it into cow horns and burying it then digging it up and respreading it.
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Are you an Agronomist? There are a lot of holes in this article. Environmental impacts fron pesticides and over fertilization have a major negative impact on human, animal and environmental health.
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You mean pesticides like copper sulphate and rotenone? Staples of organic and more toxic than pretty much anything used in conventional. Organic would be great if it embraced new genetic technologies. That is the future. Then maybe we can feed the world.
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The environment is not just about climate. No room for biodiversity in modern agriculture like that portrayed here.
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Yeah but nah. More diversity in agriculture now than ever before. Check the shelves in your local market and compare the range to 1920. Your potatoes and turnips have been replaced by dietary diversity.
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I mean Biodiversity = wildlife /nature. call it what you like. Not just crop diversity.
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Article made some good points, especially from a carbon perspective, but the organics movement scores high on other criteria, such as healthy soils, fewer pesticides etc. However, too many wackos on “our” side. I think GMOs hold enormous promise for organics. Shame.
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Where's the one where we chop down the forest side and feed the one ton to animals so we've only got 250kg to eat?
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The assumption is that the land area saved by organic farming is left as forest. That sure isn't the case around here, and I suspect places where there are still forests which are being replaced by commercially significant farms aren't interested in the smallish organic market.
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