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I need to solve the following polynimial: $$(12x-1)(6x-1)(4x-1)(3x-1)=15$$

I tried to do the multiplication and ended up with an even worse expression. There are a few other questions like this one on the list of exercises I'm trying to solve, and I just wanted an easier method, without having to do the "brutal" work.

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Hint: $\frac{1}{12}+\frac{1}{3}=\frac{1}{6}+\frac{1}{4}\,$. – dxiv 12 hours ago
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What sort of class is this for? – The Count 12 hours ago
    
@dxiv can you develop? Thx – Maczinga 11 hours ago
    
@Maczinga I posted an extended hint as an answer. – dxiv 11 hours ago
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@dxiv wow very clever idea ! Thx for sharing – Maczinga 11 hours ago
up vote 15 down vote accepted

Hint: write it as: $$12\cdot 6\cdot 4 \cdot 3 \cdot \left(x-\frac{1}{12}\right)\left(x-\frac{1}{6}\right)\left(x-\frac{1}{4}\right)\left(x-\frac{1}{3}\right)=15$$

Note that the symmetric terms have equal sums $\left(x-\frac{1}{12}\right)+\left(x-\frac{1}{3}\right)=\left(x-\frac{1}{6}\right)+\left(x-\frac{1}{4}\right)$ $=2x - \frac{5}{12}$. This suggests the substitution $y=x-\frac{5}{24}\,$ which "shifts" the center of symmetry to $0\,$:

$$ 12\cdot 6\cdot 4 \cdot 3 \cdot \left(y+\frac{1}{8}\right)\left(y+\frac{1}{24}\right)\left(y-\frac{1}{24}\right)\left(y-\frac{1}{8}\right)=15 \\[5px] \iff \quad 12\cdot 6\cdot 4 \cdot 3 \cdot \left(y^2-\frac{1}{8^2}\right)\left(y^2-\frac{1}{24^2}\right) = 15 $$

The latter is a biquadratic which can be solved for $y^2\,$, which then gives $y\,$, then $x$.

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You should give more details after "the symmetric sums ..." It will be very hard to follow by many readers as it is. Pretty symmetry deserves a pretty exposition. – Bill Dubuque 11 hours ago
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But beautiful once you wrap your head around it. I have to wonder how you could come up with this in such short time span. – Simply Beautiful Art 11 hours ago
    
@BillDubuque Edited to (hopefully) make it easier to follow. – dxiv 11 hours ago
    
@SimplyBeautifulArt There aren't many ways in which a quartic becomes "easy" to solve by hand, so it's lucky that this one worked out ;-) – dxiv 11 hours ago

Expanding, we get

$$864 x^4 - 720 x^3 + 210 x^2 - 25 x - 14 = 0$$

Using the rational roots theorem, one can then verify that two roots are $x=-1/6$ and $x=7/12$. Factoring these out, we get

$$864 x^4 - 720 x^3 + 210 x^2 - 25 x - 14 = (6x+1)(12x-7)(12x^2-5x+2)$$

And of course the last quadratic is not factorable over $\mathbb R$.

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Wolfy says the roots are $-1/6, 7/12, (5\pm i\sqrt{71})/24)$.

The rational ones I could manually verify; not the complex ones.

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But does that help you find the roots to begin with? – Teepeemm 9 hours ago
    
@Teepeemm Mine is just a sideline comment, but if you have the tool handy, then knowing those roots helps framing the problem somewhat i.e. hinting that it's not a trivial "find the obvious integer root" matter, but neither an insurmountable "just guess the nested complex radicals" one. – dxiv 3 hours ago

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