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Hello Bender235, there is currently a discussion open regarding one of your bot tasks at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard#HTTP.E2.86.92HTTPS. Please see and comment on the discussion. Thank you, — xaosflux ^Talk 21:01, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

ITN candidates - NK ICBM test

Hi Bender235. Did you actually make this removal while logged out? I think it might be helpful if you clarified in some way at that page. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:19, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

No, that wasn't me. I'm still logged in. And I'm not in Columbus, Indiana. [1] --bender235 (talk) 13:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Hmm. So looks like a mistake or not so subtle vandalism, then? You might like to restore your Support comment? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. --bender235 (talk) 14:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

https→http

Thank you for https→http on query.nytimes.com subdomain. Vzeebjtf (talk) 05:08, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand. --bender235 (talk) 05:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I thought you reversed the earlier change http→https on the subdomain because of the problem opening those urls. Vzeebjtf (talk) 07:25, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

I could do it. But I wasn't sure if that was the consensus. --bender235 (talk) 07:30, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

My mistake. All the references at that subdomain on the page Wallack's Theatre are sans s, although the history shows you made a change for The New York Times at 08:29, 20 February 2017‎. But evidently you never made the change for the subdomain. So my difficulties must have been on some other pages, but I don't remember where. Vzeebjtf (talk) 07:51, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Converting dfb.de to HTTPS

Do you think you could have your bot to convert links from "http://www.dfb.de" to "https://www.dfb.de"? The site seems to have converted to HTTPS, leaving some of the URLs broken. Would be much appreciated, thanks! S.A. Julio (talk) 13:38, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Will convert. --bender235 (talk) 07:07, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Formations(Group Theory) that you worked on, disambig

Hi, I was only able to redlink the article on the disambig page for Formation. Do you know how to make it a real link? thanks, 2601:190:4200:5F8:5EB:7097:E604:2B1 (talk) 19:49, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Bender the Bot

Just wanted to thank you for your Bender the Bot. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:41, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Appreciated. --bender235 (talk) 07:07, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Why did you shorten the information?

So the last time I checked the list of the tallest skyscrapers some skyscrapers were removed from the list,the list before include buildings 300+ metres but now it is only 350+ metres? Why did this robot remove useful bytes? Ruskiguy (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

This BOT does not remove information. --bender235 (talk) 07:11, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Wall Street Journal links broken after bot edits

Hey! First off, as a security-minded person, I really appreciate that there are bots on Wikipedia that can change HTTP -> HTTPS. However, when Bender the Bot did so for links from The Wall Street Journal, it actually broke links. I took part in a lengthy discussion here, concerning incorrect information here. Long story made short: The bot changes the links in an incorrect manner, breaking them. I have examples. The bot made this edit. A user made an edit request here, with the info that "They're now dead links that redirect to nothing but login pages instead of the articles". I am a subscriber of the Journal, and this is true. After logging in, the links lead to error pages. The original links work perfectly. I'm assuming this has happened to all WSJ links that previously used the HTTP format. I don't know anything about how bots work on wiki, but I want to ask (no dumb questions, right? ;)) if it is possible to revert the changes? LocalNet (talk) 11:01, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. It's somewhat tricky to revert all these changes automatically, and also it's weird that this link

https://www.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575267603576594936.html

doesn't work, but the old link

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575267603576594936.html

simply redirects to

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704026204575267603576594936

I think a better way than reverting the original edits would be to have a bot replacing /article/ with /articles/, and removing .html from the end of the new URL. --bender235 (talk) 11:09, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

@Tom.Reding, Unready, SiBr4, and Solar Dragon: could someone with more RegEx knowledge than I have please help me out with this replacement rule? --bender235 (talk) 11:19, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm unavailable atm but will check back in on his in about a week!   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

(https:\/\/www\.wsg\.com\/article)(\/[A-Z0-9,]*)\.html → \1s\2 in javascript. or (https:\/\/www\.wsg\.com\/article)(\/[A-Z0-9,]*)\.html → $1s$2 in perl. by the way this search and this search may be helpful in finding all of them. Frietjes (talk) 15:38, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I have the bot running in no time. --bender235 (talk) 05:25, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Can you please take care of the https://online.wsj.com links you added, which are also broken, as well? 111.83.79.239 (talk) 03:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll have a look. --bender235 (talk) 04:14, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Should be finished. --bender235 (talk) 06:09, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

You forgot to remove the ".HTML" after every URL. 2001:16A2:89B8:8400:A52C:BD6E:D8FF:DB4D (talk) 23:08, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

No, I did exactly that. That's what Frietjes's RegEx above was for. Did you find an instance where it didn't work? --bender235 (talk) 05:53, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

This. I fixed it. 1.186.171.114 (talk) 22:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I did that manually. Thanks for fixing. --bender235 (talk) 06:01, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Can you also fix all the links in this search and the rest of them at this search please? 70.80.61.53 (talk) 04:59, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Already did that. Those links that are left are not in article namespace. --bender235 (talk) 05:11, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not talking about the "online.wsj.com/article" links, I'm just talking about the "online.wsj.com/news/articles" ones and the rest of the "online.wsj.com" ones that you touched and damaged. I just linked to the searches of them. 70.80.61.53 (talk) 05:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a lot. --bender235 (talk) 06:16, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Did you look at both searches yet? 200.84.150.69 (talk) 15:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I had a look. I will take care of this in a bit. --bender235 (talk) 17:01, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Bayesian information criterion

This is by far the most common name used in the professional statistical literature. I have reverted your change, for that reason. Wikipedia must follow the statistical literature. BetterMath (talk) 16:41, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

The name "BIC" is more common when model criteria are just being used rather than explicitly discussed. Statisticians are aware of the fact that calling this criterion "information criterion" is misleading because it has nothing to do with information theory (notice that the original paper does not call it "information criterion" for that very reason). Rather than going with a commonly used but wrong name, we should go with the correct one. --bender235 (talk) 17:51, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

You say that "Rather than going with a commonly used but wrong name, we should go with the correct one". That is false and misleading. Wikipedia must abide by the statistical literature. No Wikipedia editor can override a consensus of professional statisticians on the name. BetterMath (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Don't confuse finding consensus with a headcount of which term is mentioned most. Statistical textbook literature is very clear on not to call Schwarz's criterion "information criterion." They call it SC or SBC (Schwarz-Bayesian criterion). --bender235 (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I have many statistics books that use Bayesian Information Criterion and I do not think I have any that use Schwarz Criterion as the primary name. In the peer-reviewed literature, it is common to have tables that display "AIC" and "BIC"; I do not recall seeing any that used "SC" or similar. Additionally, R has BIC built in. BIC is far more commonly used that Schwarz Criterion. Whether that is appropriate is not for a Wikipedia editor to judge. BetterMath (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the peer-reviewed literature that merely applies model selection criteria adopted the misleading name "BIC". Articles and textbooks that actually discuss model selection criteria always mention that BIC is a misleading name. --bender235 (talk) 05:43, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

You acknowledge that BIC is the name used in statistical literature. That closes the case, as far as Wikipedia is concerned. If you want Wikipedia to not use BIC, then you should persuade statisticians to stop using it. There is lots of lousy terminology in statistics and mathematics (e.g. an orthogonal matrix should be called an "orthonormal matrix"). A Wikipedia editor does not have authority to change this. BetterMath (talk) 08:45, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Since we won't agree, I took it to the article's talk page. --bender235 (talk) 07:29, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Separately, and a minor technical point, BIC is Bayesian. Also, I think it would be good to include a paragraph, in the article, explaining why BIC has been argued to be not truly based on information theory. BetterMath (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I didn't doubt that Schwarz derived his criterion from Bayesian principles. But it has nothing to do with information theory. Schwarz didn't claim it did, and neither should we. --bender235 (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

The way to address this is to include an explanation, in the article, of how/why it is not derived via information theory. BetterMath (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

In an edit to the article that you made today, the edit summary claims that BIC is "not Bayesian". BetterMath (talk) 21:34, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that was about the category Category:Bayesian inference. BIC or whatever you want to call it does not use the entire posterior (compared to WAIC for instance), so it is inherently not part of Bayesian inference. --bender235 (talk) 05:43, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

BIC is based on a first-order approximation to Bayes factor: see Kass & Raftery [JASA, 1995]. Ergo, it is part of Bayesian inference. BetterMath (talk) 08:45, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Point taken. Interestingly enough though, this paper (although using the "BIC" abbreviation) calls it "Schwarz criterion". --bender235 (talk) 06:26, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Name added

Hello Bender235! How can I get my name added to the section of notable people added? I'm a former tennis professional and coach to Pete Peterson and with Hall of Famer Dennis Ralston, a media entrepreneur and on air personality for radio and TV. Interviews include: Venus Williams, Mike Ditka, Bill Davis, Governor Hickenlooper, Senator Michael Bennett, Troy Calhoun-Air Force Head Coach, 40+ US Olympians, Chris Harris Jr - Denver Broncos, LaTroy Hawkins-Colorado Rockies and many more. I was raised and completed high school at Barron Collier High School in Naples from1982-86 then on to pro tennis after Ole Miss, and NCAA collegiate Coach at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs. Loved in Naples at 13 Cocohatchee BV and in Naples from 1978-1990. Can you assist me with this? Many thanks. COMedia (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)COMedia (talk) 16:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)COMedia (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2017 (UTC)COMedia (talk) 16:53, 5 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by COMedia (talk • contribs) 16:38, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, anyone can edit. --bender235 (talk) 06:29, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Roman vs italic for differentials

Hi, regarding my undoing of your edits to Logarithm, please see MOS:MATH#Roman versus italic and MOS:RETAIN. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 12:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm aware of this. What trumps MOS:RETAIN though is consistency throughout the article. Either use $dx$ or $\mathrm {d} x$, but not both in the same article. So if you revert my changes, please change the remaining ones to make the article consistent. Thanks. --bender235 (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

 Ok, done. - DVdm (talk) 12:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

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Vernon Jarrett

I left a (lengthy) message about my findings for both the name and birth year on the Talk: Vernon Jarrett page. →Lwalt ^♦ talk 10:05, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

United States Code

Can you help me edit United States Code? I tried to fix the table of titles to adjust for changes made on Sept. 1, 2017 concerning title 34 but title 35 looks kind of weird now. 21:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)700jn (talk

I'll have a look. --bender235 (talk) 13:33, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

List of Atlantic hurricane records

@Bender235: Hello, I was just wondering why you reverted this edit, claiming that it is wrong, without further explanation? The subunit for hours actually can be listed as a decimal, and is by the NHC: [2] --Undescribed (talk) 17:49, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

I can be done, but it is uncommon and not easy to understand for the average person. I mean, we could also write "2017.6849" (day 250 of 365) instead of "Sep 7, 2017". It would be mathematically correct, but hard to understand. The natural subunits of "year" are "month" and "day", just like the subunits of "day" are "hour" and "minute", not "0.1 day" and "0.01 day". --bender235 (talk) 22:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

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Your edit

Notice, that you should wait until the RFC has commenced, and judgment in regards to the outcome should be done by someone uninvolved. Consensus is not just done per counting votes. prokaryotes (talk) 17:58, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I did not count votes, I looked at the arguments. Unfortunately you created a frenzy by painting this as a "climate change denialism" debate (see the comments on the "Keep" votes), when it is in fact merely about what is within the scope of a particular article topic. --bender235 (talk) 18:18, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I've asked you September 7, why you argued that there is a bogus claim? Can you cite the content which in your opinion is a bogus claim? prokaryotes (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Wait, I have to find a WP:RS that proves how you misunderstand scientific literature? How about you find me a peer-reviewed article first that attributes Hurricane Irma (or any particular hurricane, for that matter) to global warming? I'm beginning to doubt you even understand the statistical concept of expectation.

Climate change affects long-run patterns, not individual storms. Hence the topic should be elaborated on in Atlantic hurricane season, but not in every friggin' single hurricane article. Why is that so hard to understand? --bender235 (talk) 20:03, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Dave Donaldson (2017 John Bates Clark Medal winner)

I was recently surprised to see that Dave Donaldson, 2017's John Bates Clark Medal winner, did not have a Wiki page. I drafted a simple one Draft:Dave_Donaldson_(economist) based largely on my knowledge of his work, using the Yuliy Sannikov (the 2016 recipient) entry as a template, and citing the Clark Medal announcements in the NYT and The Economist.

As a novice at this I submitted a draft to see if it was adequate for posting. But the draft was declined, not for technical content, but because the references do not show the subject's notability. It leaves me to question whether this reviewer is aware of the Clark Medal's significance.

It appears that you contributed to (and maybe submitted) the Sannikov entry soon after he won his Clark Medal, so I suspect you are aware of its significance. I do not know the Wikipedia culture well enough to know if this is appropriate, so I ask you to judge if it is worth posting, and whether you are comfortable posting it.

Jack molyneaux (talk) 22:54, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Easily notable, moved to main space. --bender235 (talk) 23:49, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

HTTPS links: comprehensive source of domains to convert?

Hi bender235. I like the bot work you've been doing to convert HTTP to HTTPS links and have made a suggestion for how it could be taken forward on the bots noticeboard. Thanks for all you're doing. Beorhtwulf (talk) 16:33, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Ariel Pakes

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Paul Ackerman

I didn’t put the citation there. If it is incorrect, that is not my fault. I removed the tag because it was obviously not necessary on face value because a reference was right next to it. But since you deleted the reference then yes, your tag is valid. Perhaps you should take this discussion to the person that put the referthere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Postcard Cathy (talk • contribs) 15:35, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I will consider. --bender235 (talk) 22:11, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Multiple colleges in NFL player infoboxes

Hello, you have once (no edit summary) and again ("we only list what NFL.com lists.") removed long-standing content from the Corey Dillon article.

As noted in my edit summary, multiple college are explicitly supported. The Template:Infobox NFL biography documentation states:

• college - used to display the university or college institution that the player attended prior to joining the NFL. If a player attended multiple colleges, usually only the last college team is displayed (usually the one listed on NFL.com); however, if important to understanding a player's college career history, an additional college team may be included. College teams should be wikilinked.

which was updated via this edit: [Revision as of 18:15, 27 August 2015 - Dirtlawyer1]

That update arose from the discussion at Including "all" colleges attended in Infobox? dating to 13 August 2015. The topic has been revisited at NFL biography infobox and similar.

As the documentation and our consensus do not align with your stated view, the article has again been reverted to its long-standing format. Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 17:02, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Actually the infobox guidelines are pretty clear on that. So please establish (i) why we should divert from what is listed on Dillon's NFL.com profile, and (ii) why including Dillon's freshman year at Garden City CC is "important" but his sophomore year at Dixie State is not. If you are able to do that, we can make an exception to the NFL infobox general rule of displaying "only the last college team" as it clearly says. Thank you. --bender235 (talk) 17:24, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:47, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Wow, thank you. Likewise. --bender235 (talk) 23:23, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

addition of John Matthew Cannella as a notable in the article for William L. Dickinson High School

This edit added John Matthew Cannella as a notable in the article for William L. Dickinson High School. Cannella may very well have attended the school, but there was no source added here and no source in his article, nor did the one source in his article mention the high school he had attended. If you have a source, why not add it? If you don't have a source to connect him to the school, why add the entry? Alansohn (talk) 22:01, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

My apologies. I somehow reverted the edit you made that had added the source, which as an archive would not have come up in a Google search. My thanks for your adding the source and my sincere apologies for the deletion. Alansohn (talk) 22:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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Ray Hanken

Where did you find Ray Hanken's deathplace? Thanks. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 05:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

PFR has it listed (with a typo, unfortunately), and Find a Grave has his burial site correctly in Virginia. --bender235 (talk) 19:22, 31 December 2017 (UTC)