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Musa al-Gharbi
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Musa al-Gharbi 8 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @CampbellSocProf @Chrismartin76 ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
100%. I’m working on something now on just this point.
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Musa al-Gharbi 14 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @AdamCatalyst @HdxAcademy
No one said they can’t be compared. Hitler comparisons are just boring, lazy and overused across the board. So I take them as a sign that the conversation I’m engaged in is not worth continuing. And I take my leave. Ditto with Stalin and Mao comparisons.
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Musa al-Gharbi 15 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @JeffreyASachs ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
But she is also right that she is far from alone in her experience l. I also had many others beside her voice similar concerns during and after, in person and online. And I think it’s worth surfacing as I did.
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Musa al-Gharbi 15 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @JeffreyASachs ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
I would not have published this essay if I it didn’t ring true, if I hadn’t personally observed the behaviors she’s describing. It’s not the only perspective on the conference to be had. Again, most including most conservatives I talked do during and after had a different exp.
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Musa al-Gharbi 15 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @JeffreyASachs ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
Last thing I’ll say on this stuff (4th of July— have other fish to fry... literally!) is that I’m not out there looking to bash HxA or anything for its own sake. I have a strong interest in portraying the conference in a positive light (I helped put it together)!
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Musa al-Gharbi 15 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @JeffreyASachs ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
Although we only have the plenary sessions online. There were also a number of breakout sessions etc. that were not recorded. And in which I also observed this behavior among panelists
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @mariachong @clayroutledge @HdxAcademy
There is, 100%, a lot of symmetry here in terms of hyperbole and lack of charity. I have drawn attention to this in a lot of my essays as well. These tendencies must be resisted wherever they show their heads.
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @JeffreyASachs @Chrismartin76 ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
We have made him the locus around which much of our society revolves in a way that goes far beyond his role as POTUS. And we don't actually have to do this. I think we would all be a lot better off if we didn't let Trump dominate our minds and discourse in this way.
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @JeffreyASachs @Chrismartin76 ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
It is of orders of magnitude different, as I'm showing in a forthcoming essay looking at how he is evoked in the NYTimes. I did a thread on it earlier: We've made him the center of our lives in a way that is categorically different than other presidents
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @JeffreyASachs @Chrismartin76 ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
Many of the evocations of Trump were not substantive critiques of policy. They were often just expressions of displeasure about him. I think we all need to learn how to not make Trump the center of everything, actually. How we talk about him is not the same as other presidents.
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @AdamCatalyst @Chrismartin76 @HdxAcademy
He is actually one of the founders. But of course, it must be asserted his tweets do not represent official positions of Heterodox Academy. Nor do mine for that matter!
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @JeffreyASachs @Chrismartin76 ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
We'll do the same next year based on feedback from this cycle. I'll add, most of the feedback was overwhelmingly positive. But we do take concerns/ criticisms seriously.
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @JeffreyASachs @Chrismartin76 ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
We can't control what people say, nor how they react. So a lot of that was outside of our control. But we did make some changes based on criticisms from last year, as I explore here:
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @JeffreyASachs @Chrismartin76 ಮತ್ತು 2 ಇತರರು
Criticizing, I'm all for. I do a lot of it myself! But the performative stuff just kills me.
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @AdamCatalyst @HdxAcademy
Aaand we're at Hitler comparisons. Cool. That didn't take long. This is generally the point of conversations where I get bored and check out. And I'll do so here too. But I will say, this was not a charitable description of her argument.
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @AdamCatalyst @HdxAcademy
Obama, Clinton and Trump are *comparable* because they are both of the same genre (i.e. presidents/ presidential contenders). But to make a comparison between them on this basis is not to declare them 'virtually the same.' Comparable and equivalent are different things.
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Musa al-Gharbi 17 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @AdamCatalyst @HdxAcademy
One need not say Trump and Obama are the same in terms of policy or anything else to ask whether Obama supporters would feel welcome in an environment where people were ritualistically evoking and bashing Obama.
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Musa al-Gharbi 18 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @AdamCatalyst @HdxAcademy
No, it does not. To compare two things is not to draw an equivalency between them.
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Musa al-Gharbi 18 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @AdamCatalyst @HdxAcademy
It is one thing to reject Trump. It is another thing to make a performance out of it, inserting him into conversations about other topics for the purpose of ritualistically expressing your disgust, and allowing others to do the same.
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Musa al-Gharbi 18 ಗಂ.
ಇವರಿಗೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಲಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ @Chrismartin76 @AdamCatalyst @HdxAcademy
I do not think the author was drawing an equivalency. She was merely asking whether someone who supported Obama or Hillary would feel their views were welcome or respected in an environment where people were constantly and needlessly evoking and bashing them.
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