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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Their entire economy is artificially pumped with Qatari loans. It will collapse. They will all become open air prisons like Gaza. We are strangling these people. We just have to wait it out and eventually they will be forced to leave
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Yes 700k were removed in 48. 300k in 67. Others have been shifted around in area c. The piecemeal isolated pockets of the West bank are removed from one another and without being able to efficiently unify they will be starved out. Their population will grow and land shrink
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard They don't have complete equal rights but I agree there could be worse things. If you believe in a one democratic state ok. Then if we are allowed into WB then ppl from WB are allowed into Israel proper. Otherwise it's a false equivalency
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard We changed a whole lot since them man. If you can't see how modern Israel is completely different then an iron age kingdom, I don't want to argue with you anymore
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard I'll leave you on that ignorant comment. Goodnighy
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Plenty. And the dome of the rock is a beautiful building. I pray it stands there for eternity. We don't need a temple to be jews. We don't need a messiah. This is a false idol. We need to leave the past in the past and build a new future. Else we destroy another ppl
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard That's false there is Muslim and Christian archeological sites in Israel
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Yes! Finally we've revealed the values at stake here. Their identity is complex and not like yours or mine. It doesn't have to be to be valid! Y force identities on ppl? and they did not all emigrate you didn't prove that. Some did and mixed in.
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard I want Palestine to thrive and have a future too. I respect them. I have love for them like I love our people. I don't respect kings, I dont respect governments, I respect good people and traditions. They don't deserve the suffering we brought upon them
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Jerusalem would be nothing without the suq. It's an ancient and respectable culture. So what if it was not an independent kingdom? Why does that negate their right to exist there. We can't morally move people against their will without hurting them. That makes us aggressors
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard So what? The 'palestinians' are Arabs from Palestine. What united them was a common disposession. Their right to exist does not come from their national identity as Palestinians. It comes from their heritage on the land. And we share a heritsge.
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Of course there was Jewish presence in the area. Benjamin tudela has a good account. But there were also Muslims and christians. Converts. U can't deny that. I'm talking about the aliyahs starting in the 1880s that coalesced in an exclusionary national movement.
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Palestinian identity =/= Palestinian national identity. They are diverse like us. But they are bnei ha aretz. Just like Ezra came back to the Hebrews from Babel who had left Torah and mixed in, they were still the ppl
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Ok and the question is are the interests of the Jewish people supreme to all else? How long can we justify living on other people's expense, and if the Palestinians realize we are going to remove them, what will that force us to do to them. And is it worth It?
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard It's not THE SAME as SA or Rhodesia, yet it's similar enoughin our economic and security relationship with Palestinians as a colonized marginalized people. They had to define a national identity to defend themselvesfrom us
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard When I say it's colonization I don't mean that we are completely foreign, what I mean is that we all came very recently and with a huge military and displaced everyone and created a new culture in less than an century.
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	10시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard But just because they are in part descended from Israelites doesn't mean they have to share our identity. Identities change cultures change. They have the right to be Muslims and speak Arabic and live on the land and be treated as equals
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	11시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Like probably a lot if Palestinians haven't defined their identity properly but WHY DO They NEED To? Like what I'm saying is, they have a right to live there simply because they have been living there a long time, no matter their origin. But they kept the Hebrew place names
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	11시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard And yes there was no "Palestiniannation" before israel. But there wasn't a Jewish nation either. The Arabs who live on the land are just as connected as we are we just have a different narrative
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	Jonathan Haase @JonathanHaase2	11시간
	답글을 받는 사람 @Ar1c_B3rnard Dude so what tho. Like I'm not saying Israel is a fake name or that Jews aren't descended in part from Israelites. Cultures change over time. Of course there was admixture with arabians, if course the name changed, but filastin has been the name for a long long time
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